Yorktown vs WL — Ranking vs word on street

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Anonymous wrote:I find it problematic that Arlington offers two 100/class high school experiences to a tiny percentage of its population (HB & IB). Clearly, the smaller groupings are hugely desired (I am not saying that desire is merited!). It’s a lottery for everyone in Arlington BUT those zoned for W&???? That’s nuts to me.

Yes, and if it was Yorktown that had the IB program that would be so much more outrage.

Why?

Because privilege.

Huh? Any more than WL parents' sense of privilege and entitlement?

Yorktown has the highest percentage of white students and lowest percentage of farms students. If those students automatically could be accepted into IB, because of where they already live due to privilege, yes, I believe there would be more outrage than it being at WL.

Well, then let's move it to YHS so we can get more outrage. I am against the neighborhood kids' access policy; so I'm all for increasing the outrage.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it problematic that Arlington offers two 100/class high school experiences to a tiny percentage of its population (HB & IB). Clearly, the smaller groupings are hugely desired (I am not saying that desire is merited!). It’s a lottery for everyone in Arlington BUT those zoned for W&???? That’s nuts to me.

Yes, and if it was Yorktown that had the IB program that would be so much more outrage.

Why?

Because privilege.

Huh? Any more than WL parents' sense of privilege and entitlement?

Yorktown has the highest percentage of white students and lowest percentage of farms students. If those students automatically could be accepted into IB, because of where they already live due to privilege, yes, I believe there would be more outrage than it being at WL.

Well, then let's move it to YHS so we can get more outrage. I am against the neighborhood kids' access policy; so I'm all for increasing the outrage.

It would cost too much to just move it and plop it someplace else on a whim. And the Yorktown community would likely not want it there.

As others have said, few people (if there is anyone else) share this outrage. APS is not unusual in its current implementation of IB at one school. Other districts do it like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it problematic that Arlington offers two 100/class high school experiences to a tiny percentage of its population (HB & IB). Clearly, the smaller groupings are hugely desired (I am not saying that desire is merited!). It’s a lottery for everyone in Arlington BUT those zoned for W&???? That’s nuts to me.

Yes, and if it was Yorktown that had the IB program that would be so much more outrage.

Why?

Because privilege.

Huh? Any more than WL parents' sense of privilege and entitlement?

Yorktown has the highest percentage of white students and lowest percentage of farms students. If those students automatically could be accepted into IB, because of where they already live due to privilege, yes, I believe there would be more outrage than it being at WL.

Well, then let's move it to YHS so we can get more outrage. I am against the neighborhood kids' access policy; so I'm all for increasing the outrage.

It would cost too much to just move it and plop it someplace else on a whim. And the Yorktown community would likely not want it there.

As others have said, few people (if there is anyone else) share this outrage. APS is not unusual in its current implementation of IB at one school. Other districts do it like this.

I'm not seriously advocating to move it to YHS
I really don't care if a lot of people are not outraged. I disagree with the policy; others don't. Nevertheless, "because other districts do it like this" does not change the "equity" or my opinion of it. I really don't care where the program is located. I just believe it should be a full-time program for full-IB students. I could be wrong, but I don't believe just any student at Wakefield can take a course in the Spanish immersion program just because they speak Spanish well enough and want to or because that's the only option for taking a Spanish literature course.

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Going back to the original poster's question, my DD is at Yorktown and has taken almost all intensified / AP classes so far and she's a junior. When she graduates, she'll have had 10 AP classes, because we've encouraged her to take electives that aren't AP classes. She could have theoretically had 2 or 3 more, although Yorktown doesn't let 9th graders take AP like W-L. That was fine with us. There are plenty of kids who are taking lots of AP classes at Yorktown.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it problematic that Arlington offers two 100/class high school experiences to a tiny percentage of its population (HB & IB). Clearly, the smaller groupings are hugely desired (I am not saying that desire is merited!). It’s a lottery for everyone in Arlington BUT those zoned for W&???? That’s nuts to me.

Yes, and if it was Yorktown that had the IB program that would be so much more outrage.

Why?

Because privilege.

Huh? Any more than WL parents' sense of privilege and entitlement?

Yorktown has the highest percentage of white students and lowest percentage of farms students. If those students automatically could be accepted into IB, because of where they already live due to privilege, yes, I believe there would be more outrage than it being at WL.

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Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Without special high school programs to attract transfers, we’d have two high schools with mediocre test scores serving the less affluent southern portion of the county, and one high school with all the accolades serving the affluent northern half. Because of the current high school boundaries, that’s how it would play out. That seems worse than the status quo, where students from all walks of life attend W-L.

W-L is not favored. Given the center of affluence in the county, if any high school should be favored, it would be Yorktown. But APS doesn’t play favorites.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Without special high school programs to attract transfers, we’d have two high schools with mediocre test scores serving the less affluent southern portion of the county, and one high school with all the accolades serving the affluent northern half. Because of the current high school boundaries, that’s how it would play out. That seems worse than the status quo, where students from all walks of life attend W-L.

W-L is not favored. Given the center of affluence in the county, if any high school should be favored, it would be Yorktown. But APS doesn’t play favorites.

Because of the unique programs that attract transfers, students from all walks of life attend both W-L and Wakefield.

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Anonymous wrote:Man you all need to relax.

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There is no issue here.

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As has been suggested before, the anti IB poster may be someone (or a family) who spent a ton of money to live in the Yorktown district and doesn’t like to see less affluent schools punch above their weight. But I highly doubt that’s a common view.

All three APS high schools are quite good. No need to rock the boat by changing things.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

Well, based on that argument, IB should be at Wakefield where it would benefit even more un-privileged access to both IB and a core set of AP. But I'm not hearing anyone arguing for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

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An excellent and precise articulation.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Allowing students w/o the comforts of privilege access to IB and a core set of AP courses benefits both W-L and APS in its mission. Wakefield has a bespoke curriculum that helps in a similar fashion. Yorktown is different— it has an affluent in-bounds student body, and therefore doesn’t need any unique program.

I don't find that convincing at all. APS plays favorites, everyone knows it, and it means the top high school punches below its weight, the favored one ends up overcrowded, and the poorest one ends up ignored.

Please explain what you mean by “the top high school punches below its weight” and why you think Yorktown is the top high school. And yes, I’m serious.