Data show people are fleeing MoCo for Frederick

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's also the whole idea that Somerset is affordable, as demonstrated by the ability of families with a lot of money to afford it...

You so easily shift from lying about school capacity to pretending that only one school exists in the entire county.

Here is what the PP (you?) said:

Every singe elementary school inside the beltway is overcrowded. If there was an affordability problem for families this would not be true. These schools range in FARMS from about 50% to under 5%. So everything that you say is not relevant.

However, it is not true that every single elementary school inside the Beltway is overcrowded. In fact, the majority of elementary schools inside the Beltway are under capacity.

This is a lie. Keep on lying.

Shifting gears to the DCC, this liar doesn’t know that most of the ESs in the DCC he posted have add additions within the past 3 years to address over crowding due to increased enrollment. All of those schools are Title I or Focus. Apparently this much demand for education from lower income families in the downcounty should be impossible because it’s just so unaffordable. And yet, enrollment growth keeps increasing and the schools keep getting bigger.

Montgomery Knolls ES addition - 144 seats - 2020
Pine Crest ES addition - 184 seats - 2020
Piney Branch ES addition - 115 seats - 2021
East Silver Spring ES addition - 75 seats - 2022
Woodlin ES addition - 159 seats - 2022

Three of three schools the fabulist claimed, without providing any numbers or source just based on their own made of reality, are “under capacity”. Want to lie about crap? Go waste your own time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's also the whole idea that Somerset is affordable, as demonstrated by the ability of families with a lot of money to afford it...

You so easily shift from lying about school capacity to pretending that only one school exists in the entire county.

Here is what the PP (you?) said:

Every singe elementary school inside the beltway is overcrowded. If there was an affordability problem for families this would not be true. These schools range in FARMS from about 50% to under 5%. So everything that you say is not relevant.

However, it is not true that every single elementary school inside the Beltway is overcrowded. In fact, the majority of elementary schools inside the Beltway are under capacity.

This is a lie. Keep on lying.

Here's the full list of the 23 MCPS elementary schools inside the Beltway. Which ones are over capacity, and how do you know?

Burning Tree
Wyngate
Bradley Hills
Bannockburn
Wood Acres
Bethesda
North Chevy Chase
Chevy Chase
Somerset
Woodlin
Rosemary Hills
Rock Creek Forest
Sligo Creek
East Silver Spring
Takoma Park
Piney Branch
Oak View
Highland View
Roscoe Nix
Joann Leleck
Montgomery Knolls
New Hampshire Estates
Rolling Terrace

All of those schools are either over capacity or at full capacity. You may also want to look up how many of those schools have had additions in the last decade due to enrollment growth, genius.

Again, the reality doesn’t match your lies. There are tens of thousands of families across all income levels that afford to live downcounty. The only person who who doesn’t seem to be able to figure it out is you.

[Anonymous]

MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

Can you not read? These schools have just had new additions. I am sorry for calling you a liar. Apparently you are just dumb as bricks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

Can you not read? These schools have just had new additions. I am sorry for calling you a liar. Apparently you are just dumb as bricks.

Are they over capacity? For example, at Montgomery Knolls, is 519 bigger or smaller than 679?

If you want to say that enrollment has increased in recent years, then say that. Except for Woodlin (which is getting a new and bigger building), those schools are not over capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

Can you not read? These schools have just had new additions. I am sorry for calling you a liar. Apparently you are just dumb as bricks.

Are they over capacity? For example, at Montgomery Knolls, is 519 bigger or smaller than 679?

If you want to say that enrollment has increased in recent years, then say that. Except for Woodlin (which is getting a new and bigger building), those schools are not over capacity.

They just added 144 seats because it was previously over crowded and they expect strong enrollment growth to continue. I can understand now that you tell the truth that Montgomery County is unaffordable to you because there is no chance that anyone is employing someone as dumb as you on a professional salary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

Can you not read? These schools have just had new additions. I am sorry for calling you a liar. Apparently you are just dumb as bricks.

Are they over capacity? For example, at Montgomery Knolls, is 519 bigger or smaller than 679?

If you want to say that enrollment has increased in recent years, then say that. Except for Woodlin (which is getting a new and bigger building), those schools are not over capacity.

They just added 144 seats because it was previously over crowded and they expect strong enrollment growth to continue. I can understand now that you tell the truth that Montgomery County is unaffordable to you because there is no chance that anyone is employing someone as dumb as you on a professional salary.

And now it isn't.

I live in Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS at a glance data, 2021-22
Montgomery Knolls ES enrollment 519, capacity 679
Pine Crest ES enrollment 463, capacity 667
Piney Branch ES enrollment 610, capacity 611
East Silver Spring ES enrollment 485, capacity 577
Woodlin ES enrollment 548, capacity 463 (but, as you say, there's a new building under construction

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/glance/

Can you not read? These schools have just had new additions. I am sorry for calling you a liar. Apparently you are just dumb as bricks.

Are they over capacity? For example, at Montgomery Knolls, is 519 bigger or smaller than 679?

If you want to say that enrollment has increased in recent years, then say that. Except for Woodlin (which is getting a new and bigger building), those schools are not over capacity.

They just added 144 seats because it was previously over crowded and they expect strong enrollment growth to continue. I can understand now that you tell the truth that Montgomery County is unaffordable to you because there is no chance that anyone is employing someone as dumb as you on a professional salary.

And now it isn't.

I live in Montgomery County.

And your point is?

[Anonymous]

It’s a crazy world that people are lying about enrollment in elementary schools to pretend that people cannot afford to live in Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

If the population is lowering, why is new housing still being built?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the population is lowering, why is new housing still being built?

New housing per se doesn’t mean increasing population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with Montgomery County that so many of its residents struggle to make a living wage?

The fact that it's in the US, which has prioritized tax cuts for the wealthy, union-busting, "trickle-down economics", wealth extraction, and privatized profits and socialized losses, over investments in social well-being, for the last 40+ years.

Yeah, that's why literally millions of immigrants each year come here to live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is it that all of these families that are currently sending their kids to ESs in Montgomery County have figured out how to afford it but this one person has not?

People are fleeing for Frederick for higher quality of life at a lower cost. In this context it means that Frederick is allowing developers to build houses that people want to raise families in at affordable prices and get access to highly rated schools.

This is the direct result of Montgomery County effectively refusing to allow construction of SFH upcounty. It is not the result of Montgomery County not producing enough affordable housing downcounty, which again we know exist as borne out by school enrollment.

This. We are leaving MoCo for Frederick county and this is our reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's also the whole idea that Somerset is affordable, as demonstrated by the ability of families with a lot of money to afford it...

You so easily shift from lying about school capacity to pretending that only one school exists in the entire county.

Here is what the PP (you?) said:

Every singe elementary school inside the beltway is overcrowded. If there was an affordability problem for families this would not be true. These schools range in FARMS from about 50% to under 5%. So everything that you say is not relevant.

However, it is not true that every single elementary school inside the Beltway is overcrowded. In fact, the majority of elementary schools inside the Beltway are under capacity.

This is a lie. Keep on lying.

Shifting gears to the DCC, this liar doesn’t know that most of the ESs in the DCC he posted have add additions within the past 3 years to address over crowding due to increased enrollment. All of those schools are Title I or Focus. Apparently this much demand for education from lower income families in the downcounty should be impossible because it’s just so unaffordable. And yet, enrollment growth keeps increasing and the schools keep getting bigger.

Montgomery Knolls ES addition - 144 seats - 2020
Pine Crest ES addition - 184 seats - 2020
Piney Branch ES addition - 115 seats - 2021
East Silver Spring ES addition - 75 seats - 2022
Woodlin ES addition - 159 seats - 2022

Three of three schools the fabulist claimed, without providing any numbers or source just based on their own made of reality, are “under capacity”. Want to lie about crap? Go waste your own time.

Two things can be true- there is still more demand than supply downcounty, and many people cannot compete with the inflated, all cash offers and move further out. With the increase in telework/remote work, more people can make it work. If we were buying a house today, we'd probably be casting a wider net than we did 8 years ago.

The increased enrollments at many of the ESs are also part of the neighborhood cycles- over the last 1-2 decades, there has been a major turnover in our SS neighborhood as longtime residents sold their houses and younger families move in. MCPS wasn't really prepared for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a crazy world that people are lying about enrollment in elementary schools to pretend that people cannot afford to live in Montgomery County.

They want to make the case that things have gone downhill and extreme measures are needed to right the ship, like charters. It's mostly Faux News talking points that glosses over that the county's demographics are very different today than 20+ years ago and that the same great opportunities for an excellent education are still available. For example, I graduated from a W around 30 years ago, but my kids attend DCC schools today. Their education is vastly better than mine.