SWS has jumped the shark

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

This assertion is a narrow reading of history. I suggest "Sapiens" or "Guns, Germs, and Steel" for a broader view of how humans have developed and behaved over time.

I agree that a child's experience and SEL matter for education. That does not mean that the administrators have necessarily chosen an effective strategy to further the SWS student's education in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will the white group also be talking about something concrete like reparations? Maybe that could mean sponsoring an at-risk student at SWS by supporting their family financially so they're no longer actually at-risk? It doesn't make sense to just feel bad oneself but do nothing about it.

An interesting point. One with which I happen to strongly disagree. I think the idea of reparations is nonsense. If DC decides to spend my tax dollars on reparations that'll be the end my my DC residency. I think the idea of reparations (or not) is something worth a discussion. The problem with the way the "white affinity group" was set up and set out is that there is no room for that. It is set up as a space where only a voice that supports reparations and overcoming whiteness are welcome.

Why are reparations nonsense, especially at a place like SWS? If white families there are so committed to fighting past wrongs, maybe they should also financially support specific Black families that attend SWS. Sitting in a circle and feeling guilty about your ancestors shame is easy. Put your money where your mouth is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So will the white group also be talking about something concrete like reparations? Maybe that could mean sponsoring an at-risk student at SWS by supporting their family financially so they're no longer actually at-risk? It doesn't make sense to just feel bad oneself but do nothing about it.

An interesting point. One with which I happen to strongly disagree. I think the idea of reparations is nonsense. If DC decides to spend my tax dollars on reparations that'll be the end my my DC residency. I think the idea of reparations (or not) is something worth a discussion. The problem with the way the "white affinity group" was set up and set out is that there is no room for that. It is set up as a space where only a voice that supports reparations and overcoming whiteness are welcome.

Why are reparations nonsense, especially at a place like SWS? If white families there are so committed to fighting past wrongs, maybe they should also financially support specific Black families that attend SWS. Sitting in a circle and feeling guilty about your ancestors shame is easy. Put your money where your mouth is.

White people should volunteer to be slaves for black people. They would if they really cared.

[Anonymous]

So is the white families group already up and running or is this just an idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

And the entire coffee shop burst into applause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

And the entire coffee shop burst into applause.

Kendi is absolutely a light read. There’s nothing there and he’s a 100-IQ coward who won’t face a real questioner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

This assertion is a narrow reading of history. I suggest "Sapiens" or "Guns, Germs, and Steel" for a broader view of how humans have developed and behaved over time.

I agree that a child's experience and SEL matter for education. That does not mean that the administrators have necessarily chosen an effective strategy to further the SWS student's education in this case.

Sure, Sapiens is a great book. But what does that have to do with the fact that whiteness AS WE KNOW IT TODAY was invented in the 17th century by western Europeans who gave that identity to themselves, separating themselves from the rest of the world. That’s not a read. That’s actual history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

LOL! Where's the line between supporting and infantilizing? (Spoiler alert: it's behind you!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

You are the poster child for why you can't make any headway. Anyone who dares to disagree with you is vilified. You don't want a discussion; you want to spout your deep thoughts and have people who are too afraid or suffering acute cases of liberal guilt tell you how smart and right you are. You are neither. Smart people are not afraid of having discussions with people who disagree with them. Anyone who does not bend the knee is a racist. How's that working for you? As I told you before, your approach and demand for absolute fealty makes people who otherwise support much of what you want to accomplish decide to say, "forget you".

What's funny is you think you speak for black America. You don't. Black America does not speak with one voice.

SWS deserves you, and you them. Best of luck with your abysmal, below grade minority cohort. They aren't learning to read and write, but at least you get to lecture he willing audience on the fundamental failure of their whiteness. LOL.

[Anonymous]

I am multiracial and just CANNOT STAND such misguided behaviors. Which group do I join huh? This crap makes me feel even more marginalized. I hate it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am multiracial and just CANNOT STAND such misguided behaviors. Which group do I join huh? This crap makes me feel even more marginalized. I hate it.

Join the rest of us who thing SWS is whack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

In other words, if you'd just read your Scripture, you'd understand. Look, I can't blame your father for being annoyed. Many people aren't religious and don't care for proselytizers.

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Anonymous wrote:WTF?

I would pull my kids out now.

What # is your kid on the WL?

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Anonymous wrote:The audacity of caucasity on this post!

"White affinity group" is a very commonly used term nationally, both in educational and employment settings. The outrage here suggests you all either don't read, don't care to be better, and/or do exactly what such a group would challenge you to stop doing.

As several have pointed out, public institutions use resources to support marginalized/underrepresented groups all. the. time. Is the problem here that whiteness is not being centered and exhalted? Because that's how the bulk of you sound.

Also, stop saying 'woke.'

There is a chasm between "whiteness not being centered" and "perpetuation of whiteness and racism". The latter necessarily requires people to apologize for their existence and accept it as a failing. If you don't understand why these two things are not the same and why you alienate people by conflating the two then you are part of the problem. "Woke" is being used derisively to describe people like you who don't understand there's a difference. It is most ironic that you embody the new "woke" stereotype while demanding people stop using it to describe an exemplar of it.

"Allies" are important because we have learned over the history of oppression and war that the marginalized cannot often successfully advocate for themselves without people in positions of power working with them from the inside. You and others have perverted that concept to mean creating puppets who must pass some kind of purity test. Anyone who fails to agree 100% with your position is labeled a racist and becomes in your mind no different than a hood wearing, KKK white supremacist. That's counterproductive, false equivalence and succeeds only in alienating people who may agree with a great deal of what you say and advocate for, but may not agree with every last word.

There is certainly a difference between the "centering of whiteness" and the "perpetuation of whiteness" but um...I'm not sure you are actually clear about the distinction. And then you devolved into a nonsense rambling about the KKK and completely lost any intellectual credibility.

This thread is a cesspool of people who are so lost and shocked that schools and educators are responsible for more than just having really super awesome teaching strategies locked down. As though a child's ability to experience and engage in learning isn't directly tied to the historic, societal, systemic, and very obvious and apparent PERSONAL experiences of these students. It's a disgusting display of white people's inability to conceptualize a reality that exists for everyone except themselves. My favorite part of it all is that white people established the concept of race as we know it today, put themselves in the position of this identity called "whiteness" AND got to decide how that identity expanded as the centuries passed. Whiteness is defined by, validated by, and made real by white people. BUT NOW white folks couldn't be any more ready to throw the whole thing away because it doesn't make them look good anymore??? Do you know how many times I have heard a white person say "Why are you making this about race?" or "Don't you think it's more of a class thing, guys?"

No... it's a race thing because your great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing.

I reread my post (I am PP) and I realized it would be helpful to share that its a race thing because MY great great great great granddaddy made it a race thing, as well. My father is a white man from the south.

Maybe some of yall need to read some Ibrim X. Kendi. I bought my father "How to Be an Anti-Racist" and "Stamped from the Beginning" for Christmas and he was so annoyed with me. However, the other day we were out for coffee and he said he finished Stamped. I was stunned. It's not a light read by any means. He told me that he didn't want to tell me as he was making his way through it because there were times he admitted wanting to throw it in the trash. By the end of our outing, he told me he didn't know how to feel or where to go from there. I could have said..."umm...thats why I bought the other book too!" but I could see that he was going through some major mental shifts that would take time to work through.

Real empathy is possible folks but you have to start somewhere and its not a fun place to be...AT FIRST. But the more you sink into your false intellectual protection the more validate everything that whiteness was always intended to be and the more you confuse yourself and gaslight others. Its not about making people feel like they are racist. Its about self-witnessing and taking accountability.

I believe in yall.

of course you’re white.