APS School Board race

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Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?

There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.

This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.

This is really really really offensive. To say APE - which has an EXTREMELY public website and biweekly newsletter - is anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch brothers or Ian Prior is complete lies. You shouldn't be allowed to defame like this on a public website. Show us ANY proof of anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch or aligned with Ian Prior. Literally anything.

Here's an idea - some people thought kids should be in school sooner than you did, apparently. That doesn't make them bigots.

APE website: www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org

DP. Not an APE member and don't know who the members are. I agree with PP. However, while APE's work may be "extremely public," I don't understand why they are so anonymous. Those opinion pieces on various topics supposedly written by concerned parents or teachers are NEVER SIGNED. I can understand MAYBE a teacher being hesitant to have their name associated with a criticism of APS due to job concerns. But there is no reason for a parent to not sign their name to their own opinion piece. This just casts an air of secrecy and doubt: are these really pieces written by different concerned teachers and parents, or are they written by the same one or few members? APE proclaims its transparency - then OWN it and sign your names!

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I never took them seriously because the opinions were anonymous. And blatantly wrong at times. On some topics it was if they just started paying attention and had no history or understanding of the issues.

There is a reason why they don’t want you to know who they are. Because they know they’d lose all credibility.

It's funny how guilt-by-association only runs one way. Mary Kadera was pretty clearly aligned with "Smart Restart". And yet no one on this board thinks she has to answer for every Smart Restart acolyte who called people they disagreed with racist granny-killers. Or the teachers who drove around with child-sized coffins on their cars to protest the idea of re-opening schools. Or the people who were quite clearly using an obsession with ventilation statistics as an alternative to therapy and anxiety meds.

And that's because it's obviously dumb.

Miranda Turner, on the other hand, must answer for every single person who criticized APS leadership from March 2020 to February 2022. And that's not dumb, according to these people, because if you disagree with them you are a racist cryptofascist Trump supporter who wants to turn public schools into a cross between a Kid Rock concert and the Handmaid's tale.

I guess what I'm saying is self-reflection can be hard for some people.

The dumbest thing Smart Restart did was publicly doxx an APE member. IIRC, Kadera had to distance themselves from that group.

Otherwise one of them would be running for school board too. Miranda was wise to stay above it all.

I do hope there are more people running though because this seems like the bottom of the barrel in terms of candidates. Three unknowns and one who already lost once. Yay for APS. 🙄

Who did they doxx?? I do remember one member rather publicly distancing themselves from the group but I don’t remember why.

[Anonymous]

I'm trying to research Erin as I've never heard of her and everyone I ask has never heard of her except a few Key people. I consider myself pretty involved and informed in County-wide APS matters. Does she have any experience other than Key PTA and a diversity committee at DHMS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm trying to research Erin as I've never heard of her and everyone I ask has never heard of her except a few Key people. I consider myself pretty involved and informed in County-wide APS matters. Does she have any experience other than Key PTA and a diversity committee at DHMS?

Her website's positions look like she's taking identical positions to APE. I saw her speak at the school board open comments and I thought she was an APE plant. Surprised to see she's now a candidate against Turner.

[Anonymous]

Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?

There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.

This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.

This is really really really offensive. To say APE - which has an EXTREMELY public website and biweekly newsletter - is anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch brothers or Ian Prior is complete lies. You shouldn't be allowed to defame like this on a public website. Show us ANY proof of anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch or aligned with Ian Prior. Literally anything.

Here's an idea - some people thought kids should be in school sooner than you did, apparently. That doesn't make them bigots.

APE website: www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org

DP. Not an APE member and don't know who the members are. I agree with PP. However, while APE's work may be "extremely public," I don't understand why they are so anonymous. Those opinion pieces on various topics supposedly written by concerned parents or teachers are NEVER SIGNED. I can understand MAYBE a teacher being hesitant to have their name associated with a criticism of APS due to job concerns. But there is no reason for a parent to not sign their name to their own opinion piece. This just casts an air of secrecy and doubt: are these really pieces written by different concerned teachers and parents, or are they written by the same one or few members? APE proclaims its transparency - then OWN it and sign your names!

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I never took them seriously because the opinions were anonymous. And blatantly wrong at times. On some topics it was if they just started paying attention and had no history or understanding of the issues.

There is a reason why they don’t want you to know who they are. Because they know they’d lose all credibility.

It's funny how guilt-by-association only runs one way. Mary Kadera was pretty clearly aligned with "Smart Restart". And yet no one on this board thinks she has to answer for every Smart Restart acolyte who called people they disagreed with racist granny-killers. Or the teachers who drove around with child-sized coffins on their cars to protest the idea of re-opening schools. Or the people who were quite clearly using an obsession with ventilation statistics as an alternative to therapy and anxiety meds.

And that's because it's obviously dumb.

Miranda Turner, on the other hand, must answer for every single person who criticized APS leadership from March 2020 to February 2022. And that's not dumb, according to these people, because if you disagree with them you are a racist cryptofascist Trump supporter who wants to turn public schools into a cross between a Kid Rock concert and the Handmaid's tale.

I guess what I'm saying is self-reflection can be hard for some people.

The dumbest thing Smart Restart did was publicly doxx an APE member. IIRC, Kadera had to distance themselves from that group.

Otherwise one of them would be running for school board too. Miranda was wise to stay above it all.

I do hope there are more people running though because this seems like the bottom of the barrel in terms of candidates. Three unknowns and one who already lost once. Yay for APS. 🙄

Was that the FOIA of the FOIA?

Yup! How can anyone ever forget that! So dumb. APS musta been rolling their eyes so hard.

It’s too bad tho. They did have some good advocacy going at the time. They lost credibility instead.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps these people who are obsessed with the past can focus on the present. (And look a teacher who wanted to remain anonymous- shocking). “It’s going to happen again and again if this is all Arlington Public Schools is going to do,” the teacher told ARLnow, on the condition of anonymity, fearing retribution. “I don’t want to see this story or our students buried again.”

https://www.arlnow.com/2023/02/23/aps-must-change-protocols-for-students-on-drugs-to-prevent-another-fatal-overdose-some-teachers-say/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?

There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.

This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.

This is really really really offensive. To say APE - which has an EXTREMELY public website and biweekly newsletter - is anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch brothers or Ian Prior is complete lies. You shouldn't be allowed to defame like this on a public website. Show us ANY proof of anti-CRT or pro-voucher or supported by Koch or aligned with Ian Prior. Literally anything.

Here's an idea - some people thought kids should be in school sooner than you did, apparently. That doesn't make them bigots.

APE website: www.arlingtonparentsforeducation.org

DP. Not an APE member and don't know who the members are. I agree with PP. However, while APE's work may be "extremely public," I don't understand why they are so anonymous. Those opinion pieces on various topics supposedly written by concerned parents or teachers are NEVER SIGNED. I can understand MAYBE a teacher being hesitant to have their name associated with a criticism of APS due to job concerns. But there is no reason for a parent to not sign their name to their own opinion piece. This just casts an air of secrecy and doubt: are these really pieces written by different concerned teachers and parents, or are they written by the same one or few members? APE proclaims its transparency - then OWN it and sign your names!

+1

I never took them seriously because the opinions were anonymous. And blatantly wrong at times. On some topics it was if they just started paying attention and had no history or understanding of the issues.

There is a reason why they don’t want you to know who they are. Because they know they’d lose all credibility.

It's funny how guilt-by-association only runs one way. Mary Kadera was pretty clearly aligned with "Smart Restart". And yet no one on this board thinks she has to answer for every Smart Restart acolyte who called people they disagreed with racist granny-killers. Or the teachers who drove around with child-sized coffins on their cars to protest the idea of re-opening schools. Or the people who were quite clearly using an obsession with ventilation statistics as an alternative to therapy and anxiety meds.

And that's because it's obviously dumb.

Miranda Turner, on the other hand, must answer for every single person who criticized APS leadership from March 2020 to February 2022. And that's not dumb, according to these people, because if you disagree with them you are a racist cryptofascist Trump supporter who wants to turn public schools into a cross between a Kid Rock concert and the Handmaid's tale.

I guess what I'm saying is self-reflection can be hard for some people.

The dumbest thing Smart Restart did was publicly doxx an APE member. IIRC, Kadera had to distance themselves from that group.

Otherwise one of them would be running for school board too. Miranda was wise to stay above it all.

I do hope there are more people running though because this seems like the bottom of the barrel in terms of candidates. Three unknowns and one who already lost once. Yay for APS. 🙄

Was that the FOIA of the FOIA?

Yup! How can anyone ever forget that! So dumb. APS musta been rolling their eyes so hard.

It’s too bad tho. They did have some good advocacy going at the time. They lost credibility instead.

That was funny, but that wasn’t really “doxxing”.

Anyway, they aren’t a lobbying group pushing a school board candidate. They are irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

She works for the Library of Congress. The Hatch Act only applies to Exec Branch employees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

She works for the Library of Congress. The Hatch Act only applies to Exec Branch employees.

It's actually more nuanced than that. But I'm sure OSC will be involved soon enough. Because this is Arlington and politics is politics no matter who you hurt.

[Anonymous]

It does not apply to legislative branch employees.

[Anonymous]

Okay, anonymous person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

She also aggressively went after anyone who even slightly disagreed with her on that AEM Facebook group, so let’s not pretend like she was guaranteed the nom otherwise. You obviously enjoy making up your own facts anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

She works for the Library of Congress. The Hatch Act only applies to Exec Branch employees.

It's actually more nuanced than that. But I'm sure OSC will be involved soon enough. Because this is Arlington and politics is politics no matter who you hurt.

Correct. The Hatch Act doesn’t apply, but the Leg Branch agencies each have implementing regulations that mirror it to a greater or lesser degree. She’s a Library of Congress employee, but not CRS, so I don’t know what the rules are for them. I know they’re pretty strict for CRS employees.

[Anonymous]

I haven't been on AEM for a while and I just popped on there to look for a discussion around the budget released today.

I discovered so many fascinating details about APE. I always thought they were sus, but I didn't realize that the APE founder himself actually works for a Koch-funded think tank - Mercatus.

History with Koch:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2010/08/30/covert-operations

APE founder:
https://www.mercatus.org/staff-contacts

This was all in a discussion around dark money in education policy. Fascinating!

Dang!