Private Schools that feed into Ivy's

[Anonymous]

This whole thread misses the point. I sent three kids to a top DC area private--all three are at ivies. No legacy, no athletic recruits, and no URM. Asian as a matter of fact (though we didn't put that on the application we checked other).

Each one has above a 3.9 GPA. The private school prepared them to succeed. That is the point. The private school attention set them up to do well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

As the son of a Nigerian oil baron who went to Harvard, it feels so nice to live rent free in your head. I can’t wait until my kid gets admitted over yours as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

As the son of a Nigerian oil baron who went to Harvard, it feels so nice to live rent free in your head. I can’t wait until my kid gets admitted over yours as well.

Living a life of unexamined privilege for me, self-flagellation and cultural degradation for thee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

😂 one of the best comments I’ve read on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread misses the point. I sent three kids to a top DC area private--all three are at ivies. No legacy, no athletic recruits, and no URM. Asian as a matter of fact (though we didn't put that on the application we checked other).

Each one has above a 3.9 GPA. The private school prepared them to succeed. That is the point. The private school attention set them up to do well.

Did you have a valid reason for checking other? Are they not 100 percent Asian?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread misses the point. I sent three kids to a top DC area private--all three are at ivies. No legacy, no athletic recruits, and no URM. Asian as a matter of fact (though we didn't put that on the application we checked other).

Each one has above a 3.9 GPA. The private school prepared them to succeed. That is the point. The private school attention set them up to do well.

Did you have a valid reason for checking other? Are they not 100 percent Asian?

I don’t think anyone really needs a valid reason for checking Other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole thread misses the point. I sent three kids to a top DC area private--all three are at ivies. No legacy, no athletic recruits, and no URM. Asian as a matter of fact (though we didn't put that on the application we checked other).

Each one has above a 3.9 GPA. The private school prepared them to succeed. That is the point. The private school attention set them up to do well.

Did you have a valid reason for checking other? Are they not 100 percent Asian?

Why don’t you ask to speak to the manager and demand that they verify the entire application

[Anonymous]

that is completely false. Exeter awards harvard scholarships to over a dozen kids in the grade every year, FYI

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Andover. Exeter. Deerfield. Choate. Lawrenceville. Nothing in DMV.

Not even those anymore.

Exeter had one acceptance to Harvard last year. One.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Richard Montgomery HS had four students get into Harvard alone. All were IB program students and all were minorities.
So statistically, RM is better than any DMV private for the Ivy-inclined, but high school is not just about getting into a brand name school.

Until SCOTUS rules that colleges can no longer take race into account for admissions

The most selective schools can just use a different proxy for race. Private colleges and universities can give extra “points” for a number of things that don’t directly take race into consideration (FG in an inner city school, top 5-10% of class from an inner city Title 1 school (and the student must attend said school all 4 years), etc). So a top 5% Ballou senior is as competitive as a top 5% Stuyvesant or TJ senior. Assume both students took the most rigorous course load available to them, and the universities are test optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dalton in NYC

Collegiate and Brearly have always had the highest percentage of kids going to Ivies

In NYC? No, that honor goes to Trinity (when you control for class size).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

As the son of a Nigerian oil baron who went to Harvard, it feels so nice to live rent free in your head. I can’t wait until my kid gets admitted over yours as well.

NP. As a side note, there are enough Nigerians at Harvard that they have their own student group (as opposed to a general “African Students Association”). It was founded in 2004 so its been around for almost 20 years.

https://worldwide.harvard.edu/harvard-nigerian-students-association

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Richard Montgomery HS had four students get into Harvard alone. All were IB program students and all were minorities.
So statistically, RM is better than any DMV private for the Ivy-inclined, but high school is not just about getting into a brand name school.

Until SCOTUS rules that colleges can no longer take race into account for admissions

The most selective schools can just use a different proxy for race. Private colleges and universities can give extra “points” for a number of things that don’t directly take race into consideration (FG in an inner city school, top 5-10% of class from an inner city Title 1 school (and the student must attend said school all 4 years), etc). So a top 5% Ballou senior is as competitive as a top 5% Stuyvesant or TJ senior. Assume both students took the most rigorous course load available to them, and the universities are test optional.

The kid at Ballou likely needed a lot more discipline and went through a lot more, than the kids from the other schools. They probably deserve it more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Richard Montgomery HS had four students get into Harvard alone. All were IB program students and all were minorities.
So statistically, RM is better than any DMV private for the Ivy-inclined, but high school is not just about getting into a brand name school.

Until SCOTUS rules that colleges can no longer take race into account for admissions

The most selective schools can just use a different proxy for race. Private colleges and universities can give extra “points” for a number of things that don’t directly take race into consideration (FG in an inner city school, top 5-10% of class from an inner city Title 1 school (and the student must attend said school all 4 years), etc). So a top 5% Ballou senior is as competitive as a top 5% Stuyvesant or TJ senior. Assume both students took the most rigorous course load available to them, and the universities are test optional.

The kid at Ballou likely needed a lot more discipline and went through a lot more, than the kids from the other schools. They probably deserve it more.

+100. A student who is top 5% at Ballou has probably had a very different (and in many ways more difficult) education. There are many Ballous across this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you new here OP?

I have kids at two top DC privates.
Pretty much the only kids getting into the Ivies are 1)recruited athletes 2)legacy (generally big donor legacy) plus very strong student 3)URM plus very strong student.
In recent years there are MAYBE 1-2 kids at each school who are admitted based on academics alone (without one of the above hooks). Generally these are kids within the top 5 kids in a class.
Graduating in the top 5 kids or so isn't easy to achieve and takes a bit of luck (you don't get the teachers who are known for never giving As, you never forget to study for an assignment, etc) as well as smarts.

Moral of the story: do not choose a top private based on any perceived bump to the Ivy League. It is not 1996.
In 2022 most non-hooked academic kids at my kids' schools are not even wasting their ED on the Ivy league because there is really no chance.

What's "URM"?

UnderRepresented Minorities -- the children of Nigerian oil barons, Spanish grandees, and Elizabeth Warren.

Haha so true.