Theologically speaking, why is abortion so "bad" in Christianity (compared to Judaism, Islam, etc)

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not Christian’s like control of women full stop

Welcome to ACB people of praise being the new order of the US cult

I don't even think of the ACB crowd as Catholic. They are way out there.

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Anonymous wrote:The focus on Catholicism in this discussion frustrates me. Although Catholics make up half of the world's Christians, they are a minority of Christians in the U.S. Most U.S. Christians are Protestants, and beliefs vary widely. There are lots of liberal Christian denominations that do not want to ban abortion.

Also, in the early years of this country - the period SCOTUS is apparently nostalgic for - Americans were not only staunchly anti-Catholic, they were really into non-Christian deism. Some of the most famous Founders, like Jefferson and Adams, we're not Christians: they denied that Jesus was divine. So the idea that Christian or Catholic views are relevant to our political rights is really ahistoric and recent.

Because the Catholic Church (Bishops) have more money, influence, and effects on our rights.

Catholics also do not believe women are equal.

I certainly will never vote again for a traditional Catholic. The US Council of Bishops is one of the most morally corrupt institutions in the US.

Don’t forget to condemn the Pope, the Bishop of Rome!!! He just reiterated his support for the Church’s doctrine prohibiting all abortion without exception.

Are you not aware the US Bishops are separate from Francis.

Ha ha. Actually they are lock step. There’s not one theological or doctrinal point of the catechism they disagree with the pope on. They may each jostle around how best to achieve the global view their catechism espouses but there’s no difference in their goals.

The Catholic Church is entitled to hold its views, regardless of my views on its views. It it called the First Amendment. But certain US Bishops (not the Pope) are trying to force their views on the rest of us. The criticism should be focused directly on these US Bishops.

Remember, the US has separation of Church and State. You can do something that is considered a mortal sin in Catholicism (abortion) that's legal in the us -- or at least in some states. If you're a believing Catholic, you risk going to hell, but not to jail.

And even the Church will forgive a woman, so not even hell.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no Biblical basis for it; it’s a totally manufactured issue.

Not true at all. The Bible states clearly that God created each of us, "knitted us together in the mother's womb."

Abortifacients existed in biblical times and yet fetal death is distinct from murder on the face of the text and abortion is not addressed by it. This makes abortion a “matter of conscience” and not forbidden by the Bible.

And even Catholic Popes, who know a thing or two about the Bible, did not condemn all abortion until the 1800s.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no Biblical basis for it; it’s a totally manufactured issue.

Not only that, it wasn't a sin until the late 1970's. It wasn't until the white evangelicals lost the desegregation battle, the conservatives realized that they were the minority and that they were losing the battle of messaging in the US because they didn't have a unified platform. So the evangelical right zeroed in on abortion as the rallying cry and since the late 1970's they have used that to unify the conservative party.

A lot more details in this interview (among many others, but this is a good one):
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/20/734303135/throughline-traces-evangelicals-history-on-the-abortion-issue

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Anonymous wrote:The focus on Catholicism in this discussion frustrates me. Although Catholics make up half of the world's Christians, they are a minority of Christians in the U.S. Most U.S. Christians are Protestants, and beliefs vary widely. There are lots of liberal Christian denominations that do not want to ban abortion.

Also, in the early years of this country - the period SCOTUS is apparently nostalgic for - Americans were not only staunchly anti-Catholic, they were really into non-Christian deism. Some of the most famous Founders, like Jefferson and Adams, we're not Christians: they denied that Jesus was divine. So the idea that Christian or Catholic views are relevant to our political rights is really ahistoric and recent.

Because the Catholic Church (Bishops) have more money, influence, and effects on our rights.

Catholics also do not believe women are equal.

I certainly will never vote again for a traditional Catholic. The US Council of Bishops is one of the most morally corrupt institutions in the US.

Don’t forget to condemn the Pope, the Bishop of Rome!!! He just reiterated his support for the Church’s doctrine prohibiting all abortion without exception.

Are you not aware the US Bishops are separate from Francis.

Ha ha. Actually they are lock step. There’s not one theological or doctrinal point of the catechism they disagree with the pope on. They may each jostle around how best to achieve the global view their catechism espouses but there’s no difference in their goals.

The Catholic Church is entitled to hold its views, regardless of my views on its views. It it called the First Amendment. But certain US Bishops (not the Pope) are trying to force their views on the rest of us. The criticism should be focused directly on these US Bishops.

Remember, the US has separation of Church and State. You can do something that is considered a mortal sin in Catholicism (abortion) that's legal in the us -- or at least in some states. If you're a believing Catholic, you risk going to hell, but not to jail.

And even the Church will forgive a woman, so not even hell.

Correct -- confession and a good act of contrition will do the job - for abortion and any other sin.