Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From inner MoCo, I drove tonight to the Caps game with our 2 children. We left a few minutes after 6 pm, were in our seats to see the first puck drop, watched the Caps win (hack trick for Oshie), and drove back home arriving before 1030 pm. I will not do this if the Caps move to Potomac Yards. The drive there would be another 45 at best, and the return drive probably another 30 at best. The travel will be no different for those living in Fairfax etc.

While this is an anecdote, I suspect there are enough to turn the premise into data if people were asked the question. Folks in the dc area do not take public transportation and no one wants to come across the river now for anything. I don’t see enough business for this project if it’s located in Alexandria.

The Virginia taxpayers, especially Alexandria ones, are going to get screwed. Not only to support the development, but also the renew bills will go through the roof from the flooding, etc.

And the idea that the super wealthy in NoVa, whether in Reston, Great Falls, etc, will take public to Alexandria is nil. For them, the drive to Capital One is, in fact, easier.

Again, feel free to enjoy the restaurants in Bethesda when you tire of all the chains in DC. I hear they even offer valet for anyone that drives a Chevy Suburban in from the MD burbs. But I'm sure no one will ever go to Alexandria and you can all cheer at the record low Caps attendance which none of these investors have predicted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From inner MoCo, I drove tonight to the Caps game with our 2 children. We left a few minutes after 6 pm, were in our seats to see the first puck drop, watched the Caps win (hack trick for Oshie), and drove back home arriving before 1030 pm. I will not do this if the Caps move to Potomac Yards. The drive there would be another 45 at best, and the return drive probably another 30 at best. The travel will be no different for those living in Fairfax etc.

While this is an anecdote, I suspect there are enough to turn the premise into data if people were asked the question. Folks in the dc area do not take public transportation and no one wants to come across the river now for anything. I don’t see enough business for this project if it’s located in Alexandria.

The Virginia taxpayers, especially Alexandria ones, are going to get screwed. Not only to support the development, but also the renew bills will go through the roof from the flooding, etc.

And the idea that the super wealthy in NoVa, whether in Reston, Great Falls, etc, will take public to Alexandria is nil. For them, the drive to Capital One is, in fact, easier.

Again, feel free to enjoy the restaurants in Bethesda when you tire of all the chains in DC. I hear they even offer valet for anyone that drives a Chevy Suburban in from the MD burbs. But I'm sure no one will ever go to Alexandria and you can all cheer at the record low Caps attendance which none of these investors have predicted.

Even if attendance is terrible, the investors still make money. The beauty of the deal is that tax payers are the ones who get hosed when it turns out that a suburban venue that only has parking for a third of attendees fails to draw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From inner MoCo, I drove tonight to the Caps game with our 2 children. We left a few minutes after 6 pm, were in our seats to see the first puck drop, watched the Caps win (hack trick for Oshie), and drove back home arriving before 1030 pm. I will not do this if the Caps move to Potomac Yards. The drive there would be another 45 at best, and the return drive probably another 30 at best. The travel will be no different for those living in Fairfax etc.

While this is an anecdote, I suspect there are enough to turn the premise into data if people were asked the question. Folks in the dc area do not take public transportation and no one wants to come across the river now for anything. I don’t see enough business for this project if it’s located in Alexandria.

The Virginia taxpayers, especially Alexandria ones, are going to get screwed. Not only to support the development, but also the renew bills will go through the roof from the flooding, etc.

And the idea that the super wealthy in NoVa, whether in Reston, Great Falls, etc, will take public to Alexandria is nil. For them, the drive to Capital One is, in fact, easier.

Again, feel free to enjoy the restaurants in Bethesda when you tire of all the chains in DC. I hear they even offer valet for anyone that drives a Chevy Suburban in from the MD burbs. But I'm sure no one will ever go to Alexandria and you can all cheer at the record low Caps attendance which none of these investors have predicted.

Even if attendance is terrible, the investors still make money. The beauty of the deal is that tax payers are the ones who get hosed when it turns out that a suburban venue that only has parking for a third of attendees fails to draw

Exactly.

Who does this benefit? Not the fans/spectators. Not Alexandria/Arlington.

Ted makes some money before he cashes out. Youngkin tries to score some political points before he gets kicked to the curb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From inner MoCo, I drove tonight to the Caps game with our 2 children. We left a few minutes after 6 pm, were in our seats to see the first puck drop, watched the Caps win (hack trick for Oshie), and drove back home arriving before 1030 pm. I will not do this if the Caps move to Potomac Yards. The drive there would be another 45 at best, and the return drive probably another 30 at best. The travel will be no different for those living in Fairfax etc.

While this is an anecdote, I suspect there are enough to turn the premise into data if people were asked the question. Folks in the dc area do not take public transportation and no one wants to come across the river now for anything. I don’t see enough business for this project if it’s located in Alexandria.

The Virginia taxpayers, especially Alexandria ones, are going to get screwed. Not only to support the development, but also the renew bills will go through the roof from the flooding, etc.

And the idea that the super wealthy in NoVa, whether in Reston, Great Falls, etc, will take public to Alexandria is nil. For them, the drive to Capital One is, in fact, easier.

Again, feel free to enjoy the restaurants in Bethesda when you tire of all the chains in DC. I hear they even offer valet for anyone that drives a Chevy Suburban in from the MD burbs. But I'm sure no one will ever go to Alexandria and you can all cheer at the record low Caps attendance which none of these investors have predicted.

Even if attendance is terrible, the investors still make money. The beauty of the deal is that tax payers are the ones who get hosed when it turns out that a suburban venue that only has parking for a third of attendees fails to draw

Exactly.

Who does this benefit? Not the fans/spectators. Not Alexandria/Arlington.

Ted makes some money before he cashes out. Youngkin tries to score some political points before he gets kicked to the curb.

I wonder what the Alexandria Mayor and city council members are going to get.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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The ticket taker’s state income taxes go to the stadium….wtf?

[Anonymous]

Ted hasn't learned to read the room.

[Anonymous]

Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

[Anonymous]

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Does that mean that currents caps and wizards who pay virginia taxes would now have their tax revenue redirected to uncle ted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

If 60% is the real number, Ted is screwing himself. The idea that a PG or Howard County parent will drive through DC during Rush Hour to hit the outgoing Rush Hour to get to PY is delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

If 60% is the real number, Ted is screwing himself. The idea that a PG or Howard County parent will drive through DC during Rush Hour to hit the outgoing Rush Hour to get to PY is delusional.

It depends on where you live in PG. The innerloop on the Wilson bridge is traffic free during rush hour

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

If 60% is the real number, Ted is screwing himself. The idea that a PG or Howard County parent will drive through DC during Rush Hour to hit the outgoing Rush Hour to get to PY is delusional.

I have been making that argument since page one of this thread. Unless you live in Del Ray, Alexandria or Potomac Landing, this location is untenable for most people to attend a weekday or Sunday night game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

If 60% is the real number, Ted is screwing himself. The idea that a PG or Howard County parent will drive through DC during Rush Hour to hit the outgoing Rush Hour to get to PY is delusional.

It depends on where you live in PG. The innerloop on the Wilson bridge is traffic free during rush hour

and then you hit Route 1.

[Anonymous]

Clearly Ted has never ridden Metro and has no idea how bad this will be for most fans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ted is saying that 60 percent of 'his' fans live in Maryland and DC, but it makes much more sense for him to move the teams to Alexandria so he can get a billion dollars in public tax money to increase the value of Monumental.

If 60% is the real number, Ted is screwing himself. The idea that a PG or Howard County parent will drive through DC during Rush Hour to hit the outgoing Rush Hour to get to PY is delusional.

It depends on where you live in PG. The innerloop on the Wilson bridge is traffic free during rush hour

and then you hit Route 1.

+1

It’s going to be a nightmare.