Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:At the same time, MCPS needs to stay within budget without raising property taxes. They had to borrow from the retiree health trust this year to do that.

They just can’t keep spending, spending, spending. The busing, where provided for WALK ZONE students, is nothing but wasteful.

You keep posting this but you don't seem to care that the only options that don't rely on massive split articulations leave one high school 20% overcrowded while others are under capacity.

My property taxes are already high. I don’t want an increase (again) to pay to bus kids who can walk. It is that simple.

So you don't care about overcrowding? Think how much you could have saved by not building Woodward at all!

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people can agree that going from a 30 to a 40 minute bus ride is really not the end of the world.

But some of these contemplate going from zero bus to 45 min.

It has already been explained numerous times to you that high schools are not perfectly located across the county. Currently, many students are bussed to schools even though they could walk to another school nearby. That is not a crime. It is life. Life is hard sometimes.

Beyond the oft-cited example of Kensington and Einstein HS, where are the "many" other places this happens?

DP. Here are some current examples that I know of, and while I don't think these are "crimes," I do think the options should be trying to fix these and other instances of unnecessary bussing, and not creating additional instances:

Students who could walk to Wheaton are bussed to Northwood
Students who could walk to Wootton are bussed to RM
Students who could walk to QO are bussed to Northwest
Students who could walk to Sligo are bussed to SSIMS
Students who could walk to Westland are bussed to Pyle
Students who could walk to Silver Creek are bussed to North Bethesda

Feel free to draw your own maps to make all the students that could possibly walk to a nearby HS assigned to that school. And no, you don't get $180 million + land costs to build a new high school.

That is literally what MCPS is paying Flo Analytics to figure out. But they didn't, even in the options theoretically emphasizing proximity. They only used the existing boundaries' walk zones.

They didn't achieve what you want because what you want is impossible.

Creating new walk zones regardless of current boundary lines is impossible?

You know walk zones aren't just based on distance, right? It is a massive undertaking to identify these for multiple high schools. But what I am saying is impossible is to have all the students than could walk to a school be assigned to that school.

Which is why they hired the consulting firm.

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They simply can’t keep borrowing to make budget. That is not fiscally sound.

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Anonymous wrote:I think most people can agree that going from a 30 to a 40 minute bus ride is really not the end of the world.

But some of these contemplate going from zero bus to 45 min.

It has already been explained numerous times to you that high schools are not perfectly located across the county. Currently, many students are bussed to schools even though they could walk to another school nearby. That is not a crime. It is life. Life is hard sometimes.

Beyond the oft-cited example of Kensington and Einstein HS, where are the "many" other places this happens?

DP. Here are some current examples that I know of, and while I don't think these are "crimes," I do think the options should be trying to fix these and other instances of unnecessary bussing, and not creating additional instances:

Students who could walk to Wheaton are bussed to Northwood
Students who could walk to Wootton are bussed to RM
Students who could walk to QO are bussed to Northwest
Students who could walk to Sligo are bussed to SSIMS
Students who could walk to Westland are bussed to Pyle
Students who could walk to Silver Creek are bussed to North Bethesda

Feel free to draw your own maps to make all the students that could possibly walk to a nearby HS assigned to that school. And no, you don't get $180 million + land costs to build a new high school.

That is literally what MCPS is paying Flo Analytics to figure out. But they didn't, even in the options theoretically emphasizing proximity. They only used the existing boundaries' walk zones.

They didn't achieve what you want because what you want is impossible.

Creating new walk zones regardless of current boundary lines is impossible?

You know walk zones aren't just based on distance, right? It is a massive undertaking to identify these for multiple high schools. But what I am saying is impossible is to have all the students than could walk to a school be assigned to that school.

Which is why they hired the consulting firm.

And paid them over a million I think

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Anonymous wrote:They simply can’t keep borrowing to make budget. That is not fiscally sound.

So which option is free?

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It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

Let’s see the consultants prepare more options, for that $1,000,000 plus in taxpayer dollars they are receiving.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

We are proposing changes and expressing ourselves in school meetings. Why would you think we aren’t?

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

Why are you personally defensive?

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Hey MCPS didn’t need to take this on at the same time as Crown. But they did and now it seeks likely that resources will be spread thin.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

Why are you personally defensive?

Why can't you answer my questions? Are you feeling triggered?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

We are proposing changes and expressing ourselves in school meetings. Why would you think we aren’t?

I haven't seen any alternative maps. Do share your links!

[Anonymous]

Maximizing walkers is the low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost extra money, it's (usually) popular with the neighboring areas, and it's good for sustainability. Obviously some schools' walk zones will need to be larger or smaller than others, based on the building capacity, nearby highways or other barriers considered hazardous, etc. But I would really like to see them come up with new options with this as a foundational goal, and show their work.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like so many people here could have done it better. So I would suggest you all get together and develop some better maps with projected walk zones for every option. There's been a lot of talk here about all the volunteering folks are willing to do (unlike those lazy parents at other schools) so let's see it!

Why are you personally defensive?

Why can't you answer my questions? Are you feeling triggered?

Why can’t you understand that they need to be wise stewards of our taxpayer dollars? I work hard for my money, I’m sure you do too.

[Anonymous]

Aaaaand back the topic….whats peoples preference between 1 and 2? 2 solves the overcrowding issue but has split articulations.

(Is it articulations or matriculations?)