ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real Madrid are “higher” ranked than Barcelona (UEFA coefficient). But Barca are a better team as shown by the number of trophies won by each and head to head match ups.

Anyone that knows anything about statistics understands that garbage in, garbage out. It’s how you set up the analysis that matters.

No one with any brains is going to argue that Real Madrid is a better team right now than Barcelona “because rankings!!”

I happen to know quite a bit about statistics and know not to cherry pick individual outcomes to disprove the basic law of large numbers……..

Without knowing anything else about the FIFA rankings whatsoever, based on common sense, I would trust their statisticians over a random guy on the internet who likes Barca…………….

If you are the prior poster who stated “hOw WoUlD YoU eVeN dO tHaT” and then had it explained to you in total and complete detail then we dont need to waste any more time.

I also happen to know quite a bit about statistics - at the graduate school level - and understand its limitations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real Madrid are “higher” ranked than Barcelona (UEFA coefficient). But Barca are a better team as shown by the number of trophies won by each and head to head match ups.

Anyone that knows anything about statistics understands that garbage in, garbage out. It’s how you set up the analysis that matters.

No one with any brains is going to argue that Real Madrid is a better team right now than Barcelona “because rankings!!”

I happen to know quite a bit about statistics and know not to cherry pick individual outcomes to disprove the basic law of large numbers……..

Without knowing anything else about the FIFA rankings whatsoever, based on common sense, I would trust their statisticians over a random guy on the internet who likes Barca…………….

If you are the prior poster who stated “hOw WoUlD YoU eVeN dO tHaT” and then had it explained to you in total and complete detail then we dont need to waste any more time.

I also happen to know quite a bit about statistics - at the graduate school level - and understand its limitations.

And?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I’m thinking in regards to May-July kids who potentially decided to start late because they didn’t want their son to be the youngest in the grade given all the statistics behind the disadvantages in school as well.

The good thing about a 1 year age grouping is it won’t matter until U19 which is great for players and families who just want to watch their kids play one more year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Real Madrid are “higher” ranked than Barcelona (UEFA coefficient). But Barca are a better team as shown by the number of trophies won by each and head to head match ups.

Anyone that knows anything about statistics understands that garbage in, garbage out. It’s how you set up the analysis that matters.

No one with any brains is going to argue that Real Madrid is a better team right now than Barcelona “because rankings!!”

I happen to know quite a bit about statistics and know not to cherry pick individual outcomes to disprove the basic law of large numbers……..

Without knowing anything else about the FIFA rankings whatsoever, based on common sense, I would trust their statisticians over a random guy on the internet who likes Barca…………….

If you are the prior poster who stated “hOw WoUlD YoU eVeN dO tHaT” and then had it explained to you in total and complete detail then we dont need to waste any more time.

I also happen to know quite a bit about statistics - at the graduate school level - and understand its limitations.

And?

Your argument was that I was wrong because I don’t know anything about statistics. I am saying that you’re wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age. They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

Lol - seriously. Surprised he didn't throw in the cheater comment again. I'm going to guess his kid is a Jan/Feb kid who will now have that advantage stripped away. Relax. It's ok. They were never going to college or play pro soccer anyway. Don't take the joy of the game away from them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

They are, but in other places I've already seen the whole my kid wasn't ready for school as an APRIL b-day and they really want them to play with their "classmates".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

They are, but in other places I've already seen the whole my kid wasn't ready for school as an APRIL b-day and they really want them to play with their "classmates".

A 16 year old freshman in high school is a cheater. You know it and so do I. The problem is some sports have lost the narrative allowing GY. Once one parent cheats by playing down for wins others will do the same. I like how the private school parents like to call it regrading or reclassing to make the practice sound less demeaning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

They are, but in other places I've already seen the whole my kid wasn't ready for school as an APRIL b-day and they really want them to play with their "classmates".

A 16 year old freshman in high school is a cheater. You know it and so do I. The problem is some sports have lost the narrative allowing GY. Once one parent cheats by playing down for wins others will do the same. I like how the private school parents like to call it regrading or reclassing to make the practice sound less demeaning.

Are you saying they turn 16 before they start Freshman year? How is that possible unless they repeat a grade - correct? you have to go to school by the time you are six. you don't have to go at 5, but you have to go at 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

They are, but in other places I've already seen the whole my kid wasn't ready for school as an APRIL b-day and they really want them to play with their "classmates".

A 16 year old freshman in high school is a cheater. You know it and so do I. The problem is some sports have lost the narrative allowing GY. Once one parent cheats by playing down for wins others will do the same. I like how the private school parents like to call it regrading or reclassing to make the practice sound less demeaning.

Are you saying they turn 16 before they start Freshman year? How is that possible unless they repeat a grade - correct? you have to go to school by the time you are six. you don't have to go at 5, but you have to go at 6.

Welcome to the world of holding back your kid for sports greatness.

Yes, different states have rules around how old students can be freshman year. Also yes there are some that allow soon to be 16 year old freshman. Private Schools like to exploit this by encouraging patents to hold their kids back because it makes more money for them. Parents that have gone down the path of holding their kid back will push for GY everywhere so their 16 year old freshman isnt an outcast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they had trapped player rules in ECNL before the age change in 2017 to BY? What did they do with July kids who started late?

I know ECNL is going to allow seniors in high school eligible to play even if they were hold backs. I was told that directly from ECNL commissioner.

No idea on how they used to do it.

While it does make sense let hold backs play down with of age players. It only makes sense senior year of high school after all the non cheaters have been recruited.

I dont understand why this matters though because these players need to play on a team for several years. If youre a hold back the only way to do this is to play on an older team. Which is something these platers/parents wont do. They want to be 16 year old freshman playing against players 1-2 years younger.

I was told it would only affect the senior season.

GY for players Senior year in HS makes sense. It adds a little incentive for recruiters to look at older teams.

But, this doesnt change the fact that these players will be raw because they haven't been playing on a team or maybe only high school soccer. Again hold backs dont want to play against players their age.
They'll search out whatever league or school allows them to play down for wins.

You're such a troll

They are, but in other places I've already seen the whole my kid wasn't ready for school as an APRIL b-day and they really want them to play with their "classmates".

A 16 year old freshman in high school is a cheater. You know it and so do I. The problem is some sports have lost the narrative allowing GY. Once one parent cheats by playing down for wins others will do the same. I like how the private school parents like to call it regrading or reclassing to make the practice sound less demeaning.

Are you saying they turn 16 before they start Freshman year? How is that possible unless they repeat a grade - correct? you have to go to school by the time you are six. you don't have to go at 5, but you have to go at 6.

Are there really 16 year old freshmen? I guess April/May kids turn 16 at the end of the year?

[Anonymous]

Where has it been discussed by anyone in soccer leadership that we're going to a GY system? At most, you'll continue to have the combined year when senior. There will be no holding back for sports advantage. I'm guessing all of the fear from folks on here is coming from kids in other leagues.