FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

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Anonymous wrote:So there will be paper maps at the open house or the boundary tool will be updated?

Separate maps. The boundary tool won’t be updated until they release scenario 5. If they’re considering 4 KAA maps, it won’t be integrated with the comprehensive review until they whittle that down.

Willing to bet that the maps will be posted on a wall and not handouts.

Willing to bet that there are lots of posts of pictures of what ever is hung on the walls.

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Anonymous wrote:So there will be paper maps at the open house or the boundary tool will be updated?

Separate maps. The boundary tool won’t be updated until they release scenario 5. If they’re considering 4 KAA maps, it won’t be integrated with the comprehensive review until they whittle that down.

Willing to bet that the maps will be posted on a wall and not handouts.

Willing to bet that there are lots of posts of pictures of what ever is hung on the walls.

Hope so. I bet it will be flashing slides.

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In addition to 13 trailers, part of Westfield's building is actually a modular that was stuck on after it opened over capacity. The main areas of the school--halls, cafeteria, auditorium, gym etc-- were buillt to accomodate 2500. The modular added more classroom space. So the school "feels" very crowded even if its "only" at 95 percent capacity:

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Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

You don't "seem" to recall. That is exactly what they did--ironically, right after they had expanded Westfield. They resurrected an old policy and screamed it repeatedly during SB meetings.





Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

If you had a problem with large schools you should have objected earlier. Westfield is still under capacity, Herndon has hundreds of empty seats, and yet there’s apparently no amount of money you don’t think should be spent on KAA.

I seem to recall that FCPS SB and staff insisted that 2000 students was the ideal size for an HS so students simply had to be redistricted from Westfield to South Lakes.

There was some talk from a few of the SB members about how some of the school’s capacities includes modulurs and their desire to get rid of them across the county.

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The addition added to Westfield to increase space is 3 story structure added between the tennis courts and cafeteria in the mid 2000's. It is not a modular. It is attached to the school with the same construction and materials the main building has. I believe its called the R wing.

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Anonymous wrote:So there will be paper maps at the open house or the boundary tool will be updated?

Separate maps. The boundary tool won’t be updated until they release scenario 5. If they’re considering 4 KAA maps, it won’t be integrated with the comprehensive review until they whittle that down.

Willing to bet that the maps will be posted on a wall and not handouts.

Willing to bet that there are lots of posts of pictures of what ever is hung on the walls.

Hope so. I bet it will be flashing slides.

Every school event I have been to has had adults filming the power point presentations. There is no way that the open house will not have people doing just that.

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Anonymous wrote:The addition added to Westfield to increase space is 3 story structure added between the tennis courts and cafeteria in the mid 2000's. It is not a modular. It is attached to the school with the same construction and materials the main building has. I believe its called the R wing.

But, they did not expand cafeteria and other communal areas--and hallways are tight.

And, this was done prior to the South Lakes 2008 boundary study. That was the irony--they had just expanded Westfield, and then claimed 2000 was the desired size.

Pretty much the same SB that voted for these expansions supported that "2000 desired" number.

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Anonymous wrote:The addition added to Westfield to increase space is 3 story structure added between the tennis courts and cafeteria in the mid 2000's. It is not a modular. It is attached to the school with the same construction and materials the main building has. I believe its called the R wing.

But, they did not expand cafeteria and other communal areas--and hallways are tight.

And, this was done prior to the South Lakes 2008 boundary study. That was the irony--they had just expanded Westfield, and then claimed 2000 was the desired size.

Pretty much the same SB that voted for these expansions supported that "2000 desired" number.

R wing.

They did expand the cafeteria, but, none of the other common spaces.

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to 13 trailers, part of Westfield's building is actually a modular that was stuck on after it opened over capacity. The main areas of the school--halls, cafeteria, auditorium, gym etc-- were buillt to accomodate 2500. The modular added more classroom space. So the school "feels" very crowded even if its "only" at 95 percent capacity:

Westfield was actually the same/similar footprint as South County. A few years after it opened FCPS did a 24 classroom addition bumping up the capacity but not the common use areas. http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=69184&paper=62&cat=139

FCPS HS portable/relocatable modulars:

AP Chantilly cap increase modular 319
IB Annandale cap increase modular 314
AP McLean cap increase modular 285
IB Robinson cap increase modular 238
AP Centreville cap increase modular 156
IB Marshall cap increase modular 125

That 10/23/25 meeting only had 2 school board members I heard even mention modulars, McDaniel at large and Dunne Mount Vernon, whose district has none at high schools. Assume McDaniel and Dunne know more than the public on the condition of specific mega trailers/portables. Modulars can also be used as swing spaces during renovations if membership is drawn down. So reducing the Centreville project from 3000 to a permitable number could use the onsite modular.

Reid admitted AP is less expensive to implement than IB and IB costs more to operate. R Anderson asked about how many HS s are IB v AP. No cost numbers per school site etc.

McDaniel and R Anderson :
R Anderson- interesting because this ties into the NO on expanding Centreville to 3000.
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happen. There's no land. There's no money and there's no way to expand Centerville and some of those other

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>> Well, I believe we set aside 381,000 to renovate

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I've always wondered, why does South County HS have that whole extra athletic bubble building that Westfield does not, when their enrollment is so much smaller than Westfield?

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Anonymous wrote:I've always wondered, why does South County HS have that whole extra athletic bubble building that Westfield does not, when their enrollment is so much smaller than Westfield?

Westfield was built when the SB was in an "austerity" phase, that's why it has that medium security prison vibe, literally no gathering spaces for students, etc.

FCPS funds were more lavishly distributed for later builds and renovations which got South County nice extras like a completely separate extra athletic building.

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Because when it opened it was a HS and MS combined and they needed the space. The county will not pay to replace or update that structure. It was there as a band aid until the MS was built. Once it need major repairs it will be taken down.

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Anonymous wrote:Any discussion about Oakton kids?

No discussion about any specific group of kids.

They seemed to be more focused on Chantilly, Westfield, and South Lakes. I have one kid who would be at the new school while they are still renovating and phasing in kids IF part of Oakton were to get moved there. I just don’t think it’s likely for this first round. I also have a younger kid and who knows what they’ll do with Oakton once that planned development happens. It might be overcrowded by the time my younger one goes to high school and other ones undercrowded. It stinks not to know if your kids will go to the same school. I hate their 5 year rule.

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Is Reid going to be at the KAA open house?

Can someone ask her when the Hayfield investigative report is coming out?

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Anonymous wrote:I've always wondered, why does South County HS have that whole extra athletic bubble building that Westfield does not, when their enrollment is so much smaller than Westfield?

Westfield was built when the SB was in an "austerity" phase, that's why it has that medium security prison vibe, literally no gathering spaces for students, etc.

FCPS funds were more lavishly distributed for later builds and renovations which got South County nice extras like a completely separate extra athletic building.

Strangely, for a wealthy county, FCPS was really cheap with new schools and renovations 25 years ago. Back in the 70s, FCPS went all out with expensive new high schools like Robinson.

At least FCPS is now building/renovating to a much higher standard. Still not extravagant, but the new renovations are quite nice. KAA/Western HS will be nice, and I’m curious about what new specialized facilities it will have. Some of the FCPS schools have planetaria, so I would think at a minimum, FCPS would construct a new, state-of-the-art planetarium for the proposed AI/Aviation/Space Academy.