LMVSC town hall

Anonymous
McLean ECNL costs: $2372 a year
LMVSC U13-U19 avg costs: $1925 a year

McLean ECNL is $447 more a year, but consists of 4 training nights a week, dedicated session for athletic performance, a environment for some of the best development in the area, and a platform to be properly showcased.

Do you think LMVSC is offering 81% of McLean ECNL?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have two teams in the Jefferson Cup across FOUR weekends; both are in the second to bottom brackets. Great work on them for qualifying, but this is a post about the direction club.

Out of the 20 age groups that participate in Jefferson Cup, we are missing 18. Jefferson Cup:

#1 for girls showcase (we have a total of 1 CCL showcasing age girls team)
#1 for boys showcase (the 2003 boys team isn't even an LMVSC team, they all moved over from Annandale)
#1 for girls tournament (which most of our girls only have 1 team per age group)
#1 for boys tournament (which even our TD's boys teams didn't qualify for, the only age groups that benefit from the 'academy' that is supposed to benefit us all)

It's time to call out the entire system and organization for what it is: FRAUD. We have paid a lot of money to be promised this will benefit my DC.


It is a fraud. Our TDs younger team didn’t participate in a tournament yet saw 3 of his players pictured in a post while playing with the another club team at the Jefferson Cup. Sadly enough, the Board has 3 members whose kids play for travel programs other than lmvsc. If that is not a sign of faith in the leadership of the club they serve, maybe you need some other sign to serve as your wake up call.


There is no requirement that your child has to play at the club where you provide services. There are many clubs in this area that actually have board members or coaches where their child plays elsewhere.


I can understand a coaches DC playing for a different club. Can you provide any examples of other clubs where the board member chooses to have DC play elsewhere?


I can but won't do it on this board. If you are the one that posted about players guest playing at another tournament than you can look right at that club.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:NCSL division is by team, not club


Correct, and there are some team who would definitely be D1.


I dont think any Lmvsc teams would be in NCSL D1. A few could be D2 but most would be 3 and 4 divisions NCSL. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. The player pool isn't that strong at this current time. The club isn't an attractive place for talented coaches or players to choose right now.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:NCSL division is by team, not club


Correct, and there are some team who would definitely be D1.


I dont think any Lmvsc teams would be in NCSL D1. A few could be D2 but most would be 3 and 4 divisions NCSL. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. The player pool isn't that strong at this current time. The club isn't an attractive place for talented coaches or players to choose right now.


Well we can disagree then. Just my opinion.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NCSL division is by team, not club


Correct, and there are some team who would definitely be D1.


I dont think any Lmvsc teams would be in NCSL D1. A few could be D2 but most would be 3 and 4 divisions NCSL. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. The player pool isn't that strong at this current time. The club isn't an attractive place for talented coaches or players to choose right now.


Well we can disagree then. Just my opinion.


Thats fair I just hope the dysfunction ends there sooner than later. I remember when it was a respectable club. and now Its looked at as a club that cant get itself together.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NCSL division is by team, not club


Correct, and there are some team who would definitely be D1.


I dont think any Lmvsc teams would be in NCSL D1. A few could be D2 but most would be 3 and 4 divisions NCSL. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. The player pool isn't that strong at this current time. The club isn't an attractive place for talented coaches or players to choose right now.


This is the crux of it. Past the younger ages, clubs get better because players leave other club to join there teams. I can't imagine what other team would lose players to LMVSC at this point
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have two teams in the Jefferson Cup across FOUR weekends; both are in the second to bottom brackets. Great work on them for qualifying, but this is a post about the direction club.

Out of the 20 age groups that participate in Jefferson Cup, we are missing 18. Jefferson Cup:

#1 for girls showcase (we have a total of 1 CCL showcasing age girls team)
#1 for boys showcase (the 2003 boys team isn't even an LMVSC team, they all moved over from Annandale)
#1 for girls tournament (which most of our girls only have 1 team per age group)
#1 for boys tournament (which even our TD's boys teams didn't qualify for, the only age groups that benefit from the 'academy' that is supposed to benefit us all)

It's time to call out the entire system and organization for what it is: FRAUD. We have paid a lot of money to be promised this will benefit my DC.


It is a fraud. Our TDs younger team didn’t participate in a tournament yet saw 3 of his players pictured in a post while playing with the another club team at the Jefferson Cup. Sadly enough, the Board has 3 members whose kids play for travel programs other than lmvsc. If that is not a sign of faith in the leadership of the club they serve, maybe you need some other sign to serve as your wake up call.


There is no requirement that your child has to play at the club where you provide services. There are many clubs in this area that actually have board members or coaches where their child plays elsewhere.


I can understand a coaches DC playing for a different club. Can you provide any examples of other clubs where the board member chooses to have DC play elsewhere?


I can but won't do it on this board. If you are the one that posted about players guest playing at another tournament than you can look right at that club.



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Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have two teams in the Jefferson Cup across FOUR weekends; both are in the second to bottom brackets. Great work on them for qualifying, but this is a post about the direction club.

Out of the 20 age groups that participate in Jefferson Cup, we are missing 18. Jefferson Cup:

#1 for girls showcase (we have a total of 1 CCL showcasing age girls team)
#1 for boys showcase (the 2003 boys team isn't even an LMVSC team, they all moved over from Annandale)
#1 for girls tournament (which most of our girls only have 1 team per age group)
#1 for boys tournament (which even our TD's boys teams didn't qualify for, the only age groups that benefit from the 'academy' that is supposed to benefit us all)

It's time to call out the entire system and organization for what it is: FRAUD. We have paid a lot of money to be promised this will benefit my DC.


It is a fraud. Our TDs younger team didn’t participate in a tournament yet saw 3 of his players pictured in a post while playing with the another club team at the Jefferson Cup. Sadly enough, the Board has 3 members whose kids play for travel programs other than lmvsc. If that is not a sign of faith in the leadership of the club they serve, maybe you need some other sign to serve as your wake up call.


There is no requirement that your child has to play at the club where you provide services. There are many clubs in this area that actually have board members or coaches where their child plays elsewhere.


I can understand a coaches DC playing for a different club. Can you provide any examples of other clubs where the board member chooses to have DC play elsewhere?


I can but won't do it on this board. If you are the one that posted about players guest playing at another tournament than you can look right at that club.



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Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


All useless information has nothing to do with Lula taking the club down in flames
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have two teams in the Jefferson Cup across FOUR weekends; both are in the second to bottom brackets. Great work on them for qualifying, but this is a post about the direction club.

Out of the 20 age groups that participate in Jefferson Cup, we are missing 18. Jefferson Cup:

#1 for girls showcase (we have a total of 1 CCL showcasing age girls team)
#1 for boys showcase (the 2003 boys team isn't even an LMVSC team, they all moved over from Annandale)
#1 for girls tournament (which most of our girls only have 1 team per age group)
#1 for boys tournament (which even our TD's boys teams didn't qualify for, the only age groups that benefit from the 'academy' that is supposed to benefit us all)

It's time to call out the entire system and organization for what it is: FRAUD. We have paid a lot of money to be promised this will benefit my DC.


It is a fraud. Our TDs younger team didn’t participate in a tournament yet saw 3 of his players pictured in a post while playing with the another club team at the Jefferson Cup. Sadly enough, the Board has 3 members whose kids play for travel programs other than lmvsc. If that is not a sign of faith in the leadership of the club they serve, maybe you need some other sign to serve as your wake up call.


There is no requirement that your child has to play at the club where you provide services. There are many clubs in this area that actually have board members or coaches where their child plays elsewhere.


I can understand a coaches DC playing for a different club. Can you provide any examples of other clubs where the board member chooses to have DC play elsewhere?


I can but won't do it on this board. If you are the one that posted about players guest playing at another tournament than you can look right at that club.



+++++++++

Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


Yes, and hats off to the boys. NOT to LMVSC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


Younger red squad' boys parent here. We are complaining, so let's ensure you understand the whole story.

We had great programs and two years later, they cannot be rebuilt with this current course. I really am happy not only for your DS, but also for the entire team. It's good their team stayed together, because every team in every age group except yours has had the opposite experience. LC is not a technical director; he's a good coach and he made a bad decision and isn't fixing it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


Younger red squad' boys parent here. We are complaining, so let's ensure you understand the whole story.

We had great programs and two years later, they cannot be rebuilt with this current course. I really am happy not only for your DS, but also for the entire team. It's good their team stayed together, because every team in every age group except yours has had the opposite experience. LC is not a technical director; he's a good coach and he made a bad decision and isn't fixing it.


What was his bad decision? Academy, which was only installed this past season? In my opinion academy doesn't seem to be working but it was just a way to stop the bleeding of players leaving and show the parents that their kids would be seen by red team coach. In the past that was a big complaint. I think the problem is not necessarily with LC but how the club as a whole is going to change and attract outside/new talent to add/increase our numbers. I'm not even saying Red team players, just enough so that we can have at least two teams in each age group. For those lacking a team currently 1 would be great. Bringing players from rec unless u12 and below is not the solution. Something needs to attract players to LMVSC. The loss of players began before LC joined and just continued, now they need to find a plan on how to bring in new players. I say find someone new at the top and replace LB.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


Younger red squad' boys parent here. We are complaining, so let's ensure you understand the whole story.

We had great programs and two years later, they cannot be rebuilt with this current course. I really am happy not only for your DS, but also for the entire team. It's good their team stayed together, because every team in every age group except yours has had the opposite experience. LC is not a technical director; he's a good coach and he made a bad decision and isn't fixing it.


What was his bad decision? Academy, which was only installed this past season? In my opinion academy doesn't seem to be working but it was just a way to stop the bleeding of players leaving and show the parents that their kids would be seen by red team coach. In the past that was a big complaint. I think the problem is not necessarily with LC but how the club as a whole is going to change and attract outside/new talent to add/increase our numbers. I'm not even saying Red team players, just enough so that we can have at least two teams in each age group. For those lacking a team currently 1 would be great. Bringing players from rec unless u12 and below is not the solution. Something needs to attract players to LMVSC. The loss of players began before LC joined and just continued, now they need to find a plan on how to bring in new players. I say find someone new at the top and replace LB.


He's been the TD for two years, results have dropped off completely. How many bad decisions do you want?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Red 03 Boys parent here. If you're going to complain, tell the whole story first.

Annandale aligned with Villareal forming VIVA. When the two organizations split, it left rising juniors with the prospect of playing for a weakened AUFC or a nascent VIVA. Neither option seemed suitable for college recruiting.

Meanwhile, the coach & sizeable portion of Red 03 Boys bolted for SYC. This move left a player gap and gave several players from VIVA a chance to make the team and, very likely, as a group.

Two years later to call Red 03 an "Annandale team" is just silly. These boys worked their butts off in CCL play, CCL showcases, and dozens of tournaments. Got Soccer ranks them 6th in VA. They were as high as second.

Here's the great news: every senior except one who chose to defer college, got rostered onto either a D1 or D3 team.


Younger red squad' boys parent here. We are complaining, so let's ensure you understand the whole story.

We had great programs and two years later, they cannot be rebuilt with this current course. I really am happy not only for your DS, but also for the entire team. It's good their team stayed together, because every team in every age group except yours has had the opposite experience. LC is not a technical director; he's a good coach and he made a bad decision and isn't fixing it.


What was his bad decision? Academy, which was only installed this past season? In my opinion academy doesn't seem to be working but it was just a way to stop the bleeding of players leaving and show the parents that their kids would be seen by red team coach. In the past that was a big complaint. I think the problem is not necessarily with LC but how the club as a whole is going to change and attract outside/new talent to add/increase our numbers. I'm not even saying Red team players, just enough so that we can have at least two teams in each age group. For those lacking a team currently 1 would be great. Bringing players from rec unless u12 and below is not the solution. Something needs to attract players to LMVSC. The loss of players began before LC joined and just continued, now they need to find a plan on how to bring in new players. I say find someone new at the top and replace LB.


He's been the TD for two years, results have dropped off completely. How many bad decisions do you want?


Don't get me wrong, not saying that results have been good. As mentioned, not a big fan of how the academy is working. I think the results are driven by the fact that talent has left and started leaving before he became TD, I just want to know what they are going to do to bring in more players. I think that overall there is good coaching at the club but unfortunately current numbers haven't provided enough talent to provide the results to make teams attractive.
Anonymous
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Don't get me wrong, not saying that results have been good. As mentioned, not a big fan of how the academy is working. I think the results are driven by the fact that talent has left and started leaving before he became TD, I just want to know what they are going to do to bring in more players. I think that overall there is good coaching at the club but unfortunately current numbers haven't provided enough talent to provide the results to make teams attractive.


I do apologize if I am coming across as confrontational; that was not my intent. We both agree that the academy is not working, and the poor W/L record is also an indicator. But I think this is further evidence of just how bad of a decision it was to implement this idea. They knew what the numbers were going to be, we didn't. If the academy is supposed to get our players better as well as improve the results, the coaching staff has failed plain and simple. This is their second full year now, so while I acknowledge most of the players that left were primarily red team players, the coaching staff has had time. But to if you believe the coaching staff is good (and I can understand your reasoning if so), then it appears they don't believe in the academy philosophy and are just waiting to get good players--well what are we paying them for?? Also, why do the academy if they knew the numbers were this low?

My short answer: LC's age groups have two teams, nothing else matters to him. He's a good trainer, good coach, good person. I think he's in over his head to be the leader for a club.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

Don't get me wrong, not saying that results have been good. As mentioned, not a big fan of how the academy is working. I think the results are driven by the fact that talent has left and started leaving before he became TD, I just want to know what they are going to do to bring in more players. I think that overall there is good coaching at the club but unfortunately current numbers haven't provided enough talent to provide the results to make teams attractive.


I do apologize if I am coming across as confrontational; that was not my intent. We both agree that the academy is not working, and the poor W/L record is also an indicator. But I think this is further evidence of just how bad of a decision it was to implement this idea. They knew what the numbers were going to be, we didn't. If the academy is supposed to get our players better as well as improve the results, the coaching staff has failed plain and simple. This is their second full year now, so while I acknowledge most of the players that left were primarily red team players, the coaching staff has had time. But to if you believe the coaching staff is good (and I can understand your reasoning if so), then it appears they don't believe in the academy philosophy and are just waiting to get good players--well what are we paying them for?? Also, why do the academy if they knew the numbers were this low?

My short answer: LC's age groups have two teams, nothing else matters to him. He's a good trainer, good coach, good person. I think he's in over his head to be the leader for a club.


No worries, I'm not defending LC either, just don't think overall everything falls on him. So I feel that in my DC age groups, in the overall, players have improved. Although they have improved which is what you want coaches to do, it has not been enough to get back to the prior level of where those teams were when the players did originally leave. If LC and other directors leave it would cause more instability within the club and more players to leave. I think they should remain but come up with a better plan. What that is I just don't know.
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