Teachers Resigning Like Crazy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this happening anywhere else? My DC's ES has has have five teachers resign mid year. Is this normal? What is happening?!

https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-worker-loves-new-job-burning-out-teaching-2023-1

I’m an ES teacher. From the article it sounds like she taught for 5 years between private and public. Assuming she now makes at least $50k a year, that would be $25 an hour 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year (2,000 hours). Does Costco start people of at $25 an hour? Perhaps they do. I don’t know what their health and retirement benefits are like.

It says she pursued her PhD, so I assume she has a MA degree. In FCPS on step 4 that would be $67,945. Costco would have to pay $34/hour for the 2,000 hours to match that and that’s with only two weeks off.

Look, I really appreciate all the hard work that teachers do and believe they should be paid more. And I also believe that most nonprofit workers should be paid more, and have more benefits, including vacations for high burnout work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this happening anywhere else? My DC's ES has has have five teachers resign mid year. Is this normal? What is happening?!

https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-worker-loves-new-job-burning-out-teaching-2023-1

I’m an ES teacher. From the article it sounds like she taught for 5 years between private and public. Assuming she now makes at least $50k a year, that would be $25 an hour 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year (2,000 hours). Does Costco start people of at $25 an hour? Perhaps they do. I don’t know what their health and retirement benefits are like.

It says she pursued her PhD, so I assume she has a MA degree. In FCPS on step 4 that would be $67,945. Costco would have to pay $34/hour for the 2,000 hours to match that and that’s with only two weeks off.

I don't think they start people at $25/hr but I've heard around 20, and as a non-exempt she could get overtime for hours over 40, vs. the 60 per week she was working before. This is in contrast to teachers who are paid (at least in FCPS) on the basis of a theoretical 7.5 hour day. The job creep she talks about is no joke, as all our planning time is taken up with meetings and other duties, and we're expected to be regularly available after contract hours, and do grading and other administrative tasks on our own time (I'm on my second day of grading this weekend already). We also have this huge overhead of specialists who spend most of their time justifying their jobs by micromanaging us and giving us more things to do and reports to fill out based on the latest teaching fad pushed by a consultant.

This!

I estimate I’ve spent over 15 hours already this weekend preparing for next week. I have about another 5 to do once this short break I’m taking is over. I sent my family to the pool to enjoy Labor Day so I can get work done.

The job creep is 100% the reason I might quit before the year is out. I guarantee you that the specialists and administrators aren’t working today, but here I am making sure I jump through all the hoops.

I want a job that I can get done in 40 hours a week.

-high school teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this happening anywhere else? My DC's ES has has have five teachers resign mid year. Is this normal? What is happening?!

https://www.businessinsider.com/costco-worker-loves-new-job-burning-out-teaching-2023-1

I’m an ES teacher. From the article it sounds like she taught for 5 years between private and public. Assuming she now makes at least $50k a year, that would be $25 an hour 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year (2,000 hours). Does Costco start people of at $25 an hour? Perhaps they do. I don’t know what their health and retirement benefits are like.

It says she pursued her PhD, so I assume she has a MA degree. In FCPS on step 4 that would be $67,945. Costco would have to pay $34/hour for the 2,000 hours to match that and that’s with only two weeks off.

Look, I really appreciate all the hard work that teachers do and believe they should be paid more. And I also believe that most nonprofit workers should be paid more, and have more benefits, including vacations for high burnout work.

I wish the US followed European countries and offered a work/life balance. The US is all about working all the time. There needs to be a culture shift.

[Anonymous]

I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

[Anonymous]

Also this is clearly an FCPS forum. There is one for MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

Really? 95% of teachers in FCPS have given you this message, or even believe this? Really?

Hyperbole isn’t a very convincing tool.

I’m a high school teacher. Monitor away! Email me all you want. I personally feel students should be self-advocating by high school, but I have no problem communicating with parents. I even responded to several today (on Labor Day). So as we are throwing out random numbers, I’m going to say 95% of teachers are quite happy to work with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

Really? 95% of teachers in FCPS have given you this message, or even believe this? Really?

Hyperbole isn’t a very convincing tool.

I’m a high school teacher. Monitor away! Email me all you want. I personally feel students should be self-advocating by high school, but I have no problem communicating with parents. I even responded to several today (on Labor Day). So as we are throwing out random numbers, I’m going to say 95% of teachers are quite happy to work with you.

Maybe you have more time than they do being that you are working on labor day and checking FCPS forums while working for MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

This isn't true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

'
You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

Really? 95% of teachers in FCPS have given you this message, or even believe this? Really?

Hyperbole isn’t a very convincing tool.

I’m a high school teacher. Monitor away! Email me all you want. I personally feel students should be self-advocating by high school, but I have no problem communicating with parents. I even responded to several today (on Labor Day). So as we are throwing out random numbers, I’m going to say 95% of teachers are quite happy to work with you.

Maybe you have more time than they do being that you are working on labor day and checking FCPS forums while working for MCPS.

I’m not the MCPS poster.

[Anonymous]

Happily retired FCPS teacher here. I remember the good old days when parents and teachers were on the same side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry teachers are expected to actually do their jobs again.

Oh, grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an MCPS teacher.. I cannot count the 100s of times I have to tell "parents" what is their job my what is my job.

They cannot seem to understand that part of their job is to get the kids to school on time, make sure their homework is done and in the backpack, as well as have their Chromebook charged up and ready to go. Having been fed prior to school and having lunch money in their account is their job, too. "Parents" seem absolutely perplexed when I explain this to them.

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You wouldn't believe the number of teachers who think parents checking up on homework is overstepping for a parent. Or even wanting homework as if that was too much of a burden for them to check. I started losing interest in their plight when they said stuff like this.

Answer honestly. How many teachers have told you checking homework is overstepping? How many have suggested homework is too much of a burden? I’m guessing the answer is either one or zero.

Can we stop the fighting and the taking of sides?

A lot. And this post is full of teachers complaining about parents. All of FCPS schools now have a no homework policy for elementary. The middle schools tout that there will be little homework. The high schools don't want you monitoring. So I'd say about 95% of teachers in FCPS.

So either you’re a liar, or you’re doing a lot more helicoptering than just “checking homework,” in which case you’re also a liar.