FCPS is turning the new high school purchased to fix crowding into an Aviation magnet school instead of a high school??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Define “particular school” when you have western Fairfax’s split feeders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Just because you disagree doesn't make you right either. Seems like you are the one that is going to have to work a lot harder to find an argument that actually works because this is happening.

And yet if you read the thread you can see enthusiasm waning.

Not to mention that decisions can have consequences even when they can’t easily be reversed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Define “particular school” when you have western Fairfax’s split feeders.

But, they generally go to school in their community instead of taking very long bus rides. And, just because you are eager to stay in your school does not mean others want to get on a bus for a long distance--especially when they could go to a nearby school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Just because you disagree doesn't make you right either. Seems like you are the one that is going to have to work a lot harder to find an argument that actually works because this is happening.

And yet if you read the thread you can see enthusiasm waning.

Not to mention that decisions can have consequences even when they can’t easily be reversed.

Enthusiasm isn't waning. The school board has come around and people are getting the community school they wanted and expected. Now the only people all worked up are people like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Just because you disagree doesn't make you right either. Seems like you are the one that is going to have to work a lot harder to find an argument that actually works because this is happening.

And yet if you read the thread you can see enthusiasm waning.

Not to mention that decisions can have consequences even when they can’t easily be reversed.

Enthusiasm isn't waning. The school board has come around and people are getting the community school they wanted and expected. Now the only people all worked up are people like you.

Read the thread with your eyes open next time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

And, Westfield is _+50 this year over last year. And, new construction in its boundary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Define “particular school” when you have western Fairfax’s split feeders.

But, they generally go to school in their community instead of taking very long bus rides. And, just because you are eager to stay in your school does not mean others want to get on a bus for a long distance--especially when they could go to a nearby school.

I think we’re not actually arguing. The split feeder mess at Carson and Franklin was created by FCPS actions over the last three decades. It’s beyond time they fixed it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

And, yes, it’s not going to be free.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

Kids rarely go to high school in their immediate neighborhood, and people often define their “communities” as the areas currently assigned to a particular school. And some of those with the longest commutes are the most eager to stay at their current schools.

So you haven’t offered a compelling rebuttal.

Define “particular school” when you have western Fairfax’s split feeders.

But, they generally go to school in their community instead of taking very long bus rides. And, just because you are eager to stay in your school does not mean others want to get on a bus for a long distance--especially when they could go to a nearby school.

I think we’re not actually arguing. The split feeder mess at Carson and Franklin was created by FCPS actions over the last three decades. It’s beyond time they fixed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

If you had a problem with large schools you should have objected earlier. Westfield is still under capacity, Herndon has hundreds of empty seats, and yet there’s apparently no amount of money you don’t think should be spent on KAA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

If you had a problem with large schools you should have objected earlier. Westfield is still under capacity, Herndon has hundreds of empty seats, and yet there’s apparently no amount of money you don’t think should be spent on KAA.

Almost 200 kids pupil place out of Herndon --most to South Lakes for IB. Get rid of IB.
But, even so, Herndon still has over 2000 kids. Put an academy there. The answer is not putting kids on a bus for forty plus minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Herrity's critique has detailed arguments to support position. Whether Herrity is a moderate or not ... Or whether he is a Youngkin lackey or not, does not negate his arguments. I am more interested in reading comments that rebut his arguments and less about suspected associations.

Moving kids out of their neighborhoods and communities is not good. Putting them on long bus rides is not good.

cont. And, the details about the costs were also not accurate. They were straight out of that woman who posts on Nextdoor. Greatly exaggerated.

I've noticed the Nextdoor / Facebook crowd's approach is to just keep repeating things that aren't true to support their argument hoping that if they say it enough people will accept it without researching further.

Funny since FCPS keeps repeating the lies that this school purchase will result in $280 million in savings and that Westfield was overcrowded when it was under capacity.

Straight out of the CIP, "Temporary Classrooms: Schools with an increasing number of required temporary classrooms
can indicate that a more permanent solution, such as a capacity enhancement or a boundary
adjustment, may be considered."

Westfield has 13 temporary classrooms (trailers).

Westfield was under program capacity last year and remains so this fall.

You can’t just go by trailers because sometimes trailers reflect the inefficient use of available space or the fact that FCPS has nowhere else to put them.

Similarly, the language you cited used the words “can indicate” rather than “does indicate” the need for a capacity enhancement or boundary adjustment.

Almost 2800 and "under capacity." Really? You think that works? Why do you think they added trailers?

If you had a problem with large schools you should have objected earlier. Westfield is still under capacity, Herndon has hundreds of empty seats, and yet there’s apparently no amount of money you don’t think should be spent on KAA.

Almost 200 kids pupil place out of Herndon --most to South Lakes for IB. Get rid of IB.
But, even so, Herndon still has over 2000 kids. Put an academy there. The answer is not putting kids on a bus for forty plus minutes.

Some of the areas that could have been moved to Herndon are 15-20 minutes away, not 40.

We are wasting a ton of money because people don't want to go to Herndon or Westfield.