Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter who knows little of the titanic - just asked why this is big news? not a bad question actually.

Because of the obscenely wealthy on board.

actually I think its more due to the allure of the titanic. and the idea of a deep sea rescue.

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From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

Why is it an interesting choice of words? They are clearly dead. People don’t actually still think there’s a chance that they are bobbing around waiting to be unsealed, right?

Because nothing has been officially confirmed yet and the "debris field" has not yet been confirmed to be from the Titan. Obviously it's likely they are dead, but you don't put out a confusing statement like that before anything official is announced.

The statement isn't confusing. We all know they are dead since they ran out of oxygen.

No it imploded. Oxygen not a factor.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm impressed if they even found a debris field. I just assumed they would never be able to find anything, and it would be discovered decades from now on some other odd excursion or with more advanced technology.

Agree. I had a high school friend who was lost at sea and not a trace was found of her boat.

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If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

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Anonymous wrote:Friend of a friend telling BBC that rear cover of sun and landing gear is part of debris field.

does this mean BBC is reporting this? confused

“ David Mearns, a rescue expert who knows two of the five men onboard, has received a WhatsApp message suggesting two crucial parts of the system have been detected - but the hull is yet to be found.”

I'm PP who said the end caps would float up - I wonder if the two crucial parts are the end caps?

The article says Landing frame and rear cover.

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Because of the obscenely wealthy on board.


actually I think its more due to the allure of the titanic. and the idea of a deep sea rescue.

I think it is partially the allure of the Titanic, and possibly the fact that it would have been an awful way for them to die to be trapped in that little thing for days.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter who knows little of the titanic - just asked why this is big news? not a bad question actually.

Seems like a normal question from anybody who knows little of the Titanic.

Maybe she also wonders why so many people care about five guys in a mini-sub. You could explain to her about billionaire thrill seekers.

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BBC says debris was from the Titan. They’ve identified landing frame and rear cover.

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Anonymous wrote:instantaneous death is second only to living a long, happy life and then going to bed one night and dying in my sleep.

I always have said I hope I die in my sleep like my grandfather and not screaming like the three others in the car with him.

Thanks for the levity. 😂

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Anonymous wrote:It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

Too bad the Ocean Gate company didn’t have their own to handle this situation. Tells me they need to fire their risk management analyst or they don’t have one.

There was never any "finding them alive." Come on. They've been dead for 4 days.

Yes, but PP was complaining that the French ROVs took too long. My point is that if this was a company that had a good risk management function, they would have had their own ROV. If it were my company, I would have had ROVs following the sub.

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From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

Why is it an interesting choice of words? They are clearly dead. People don’t actually still think there’s a chance that they are bobbing around waiting to be unsealed, right?

Because nothing has been officially confirmed yet and the "debris field" has not yet been confirmed to be from the Titan. Obviously it's likely they are dead, but you don't put out a confusing statement like that before anything official is announced.

The statement isn't confusing. We all know they are dead since they ran out of oxygen.

No it imploded. Oxygen not a factor.

We know. Point being after the oxygen runs out there is zero hope of rescuing. There was hope up until that point, but not after. We are after that point so no need to dance around the fact that this ended tragically.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter who knows little of the titanic - just asked why this is big news? not a bad question actually.

Because of the obscenely wealthy on board.

And because of the Titanic. That tragedy has captured the imagination of generations and James Cameron brought it vividly to life in his blockbuster. There is a touring exhibit that has items recovered from the Titanic. This will just add to the lore.

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BBC says debris was from the Titan. They’ve identified landing frame and rear cover.

I feel like your the mom who always comes in 10 minutes late with the breaking news

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

According to that lawsuit, the real time hull health monitoring system monitored stress on the structural integrity of the hull and reported to the people inside of the submersible when it was about to crack, about a millisecond before it would happen. Not sure what good it was ever supposed to do - you get to hear a beep right before you die?

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No bc they lost all contact