Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.

Your opinion does not matter.

r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...

[Anonymous]

Agree, the DC Koolaid is nasty.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Del Quinton Wilbur is walking this back.

Interesting. In an earlier version of this article:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kavanaugh-ford-fbi-clues-20180928-story.html

It said that a reporter visited the house and talked to the current owner. The reporter even described the house's interior. Now all of that is gone with no explanation. That's really weird. Did the LA Times get punked?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

this, this, this.

If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.

There are all sorts of sexual assaults.
Ford does not say he raped her.

In any case, attempted rape or rape, if he had been charged at the time, even if a judge had thrown the book at him which we all know never would have happened, he'd be out by now.

But he wouldn't be a judge, or in a position to be nominated to the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.

Your opinion does not matter.

r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


Just because a lot of people are willing to overlook the crimes of the people in their party, doesn't mean that we are wasting our breath speaking out about sexual assault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's lying about something.
She is telling the truth.
She was likely a mousey un popular girl of so so intelligence trying to hang out with much smarter, popular, domineering boys. Things got out of control, and she never forgot it. They forgot it soon after.
Most popular people NEVER remember the other folks. You see them two years later in the grocery store and they don't know who you were.

Girls of mediocre intelligence who are so traumatized they screw up the first two years of undergrad don’t usually go on to earn multiple graduate degrees from excellent universities.

And, she cannot remember if she gave a copy of her therapists notes to WAPO two months ago......there is something going on here besides intelligence or non-intelligence. Also, her statement says "me and four others" were at the party. This certainly doesn't sound like someone from an affluent background who has multiple degrees. Not knowing that the committee would have come to her, not knowing that her lawyers said she wouldn't fly, etc.

There is something wrong here--far more than the event described in the accusation.

Based on your excellent sleuthing, she can't possibly have been rich enough to go to that elite private school.

The field that she is in is easy to climb really fast. That said, she is not as smart as BK. Funny enough, I think that she knows it. That is why she did not want to testify. That is also why she wanted to be "protected" from the smarter congressmen.
BTW, I am afraid to fly, and I only fly when absolutely necessary or to a GOOD vacation spot. I like to think that I will take only 20 more flights in my life, so I keep my list short. I hate the fact that I will have to fly next spring to settle something with my parents' estate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

this, this, this.

If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.

There are all sorts of sexual assaults.
Ford does not say he raped her.

In any case, attempted rape or rape, if he had been charged at the time, even if a judge had thrown the book at him which we all know never would have happened, he'd be out by now.

But he wouldn't be a judge, or in a position to be nominated to the Supreme Court.

Not coaching kids either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.

Your opinion does not matter.

r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...

Before the typo police come after me, Their

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

this, this, this.

If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.

+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.

Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but where is the evidence? His journal proves nothing.

It's the journal he presented as evidence to prove the party that Dr. Ford described never happened. Except the journal shows it DID happen. Contemporaneous notes are evidence, especially when the notes are your own.

At a minimum, it's proof of perjury.

I fully agree the July 1 event is potentially key. But your statement goes too far. It does not prove that. And it does not show the event at issue DID (your word) hapoen. Surely,the agents will take an extremely close look at this. It’s a big clue.

His own testimony was that he put everything in the calendar, so it's pretty good evidence. Perhaps he'll wriggle his way out by showing that particular event never occurred, but I doubt it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

this, this, this.

If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.

There are all sorts of sexual assaults.
Ford does not say he raped her.

In any case, attempted rape or rape, if he had been charged at the time, even if a judge had thrown the book at him which we all know never would have happened, he'd be out by now.

IF he had been charged. He hasn't been charged. If he is charged and found guilty, he should serve whatever sentence given. The fact that he would be out now is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

None of your opinions matter!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Despite what comes out in the FBI report, no Dems will vote for BK anyways.

Who really thinks that this BS calling for a FBI investigation will change anything.

So if the FBI clears him, then it will be we can’t vote for him cuz abortion, gun laws, etc.. it will then be another set off issues.

How exactly would the FBI “clear” him? Not turning up anything new would surprise no one, and wouldn’t mean that he has been proven innocent.

He's presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. And I know....I know....it's not a trial, but the same principle applies: you can't prove a negative.

SHE has to prove that he's guilty, not the other way around.

Huh? She does not have to prove anything. She just has to be truthful. Even Republicans found her credible.

So are you saying that an allegation, even if the person making it sounds credible, is sufficient to ruin someone’s career? Do you realize what that opens the door for? She essentially has no corroborating evidence, and the people she identified as being in a position to support her accusation either denied knowledge or outright refuted it. I can’t understand how so many are willing to destroy this guy (or anyone) over an unsubstantiated allegation. I guess I do understand - you hate his politics and/or the person who nominated him.

What? Whose career is getting ruined, exactly? Cavanaugh has a lifetime judgeship, just not at the court he wants. You make it sound like he's about to go panhandle at the corner of 18th and K. He was fine before this nomination and he'll be fine after it. His children will retain their well fed look, I assure you.

That's what liberals tell themselves to assuage their guilt for destroying a man.

OK, then please, explain. In what way is his career ruined? Is he losing his lifetime judgeship?

In what way is he destroyed? Is he losing his job? His house? His family? His legs or arms? His freedom? His friends? The worst that could happen to him is that he won't get a Supreme Court seat. If this is your definition of destruction then virtually everyone in this country has been destroyed. Since so few people get to sit on the highest court of the land.

You know who is destroyed? That guy in Syria who lost his infant twins, wife and house in the chemical attack. That's the picture of a life destroyed.

Kavanaugh? Nah. He'll be fine.

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

We think his entitled whine-fest yesterday made it very clear he's unfit. No use digging out more dirt, he laid it all out for us.

Your comment isn't clear. Unfit for which - Supreme Court Justice, sitting on the Court of Appeals in his current position, or both?

DP, but I'd say both.

It wouldn't surprise me to find many people feel this way. If I think the man is unfit to sit on the Supreme Court, what mental gymnastics am I going through to be ok with him remaining in his current position?

People who think the only think he faces losing is a seat on the Supreme Court must be doing some impressive mental gymnastics of their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why do you assume that people will stop at preventing him from being on the Supreme Court?
There have already been calls to try and remove him from the court of appeals: https://now.org/media-center/press-release/brett-kavanaugh-should-be-removed-from-the-bench/

So no, the "worst that could happen" isn't just not getting to be a Supreme Court Justice.

And, if you think he's guilty, and if you think he knows he's guilty, then this is reasonable. Not just because of what he did - we might be able to excuse a teenager's brutish behavior from way-back-when - but because he lied about it, which indicates a lack of remorse as an adult that makes him unfit to judge others.

But if you think he's guilty, but doesn't know he's guilty because he was black out drunk or whatever your preferred scenario is, then this might not be reasonable. If we start going after all of us middle aged people for the stuff we got away with (remembered or not) in our youth, even if we perform our current functions well and seem like perfectly reasonable people, we're going to have quite a line at the guillotine.

And if you think he's not guilty, then it's not even remotely reasonable.

this, this, this.

If you raped someone in high school, you should be in jail. ( Some states have a SOL on sexual assault for crimes committed when the victim was an adult, some do not. )

This was not drinking or shoplifting, or getting in a fist fight. This wasn't stealing the rival school's mascot. Stop acting like sexual assault isn't a BFD. It is.

+1, what are you suggesting first pp? that sexual assault is "stuff middle aged people got away with in their youth?" Ford said they shut the door and turned the music up loud and that she called out hoping someone would hear her. The boys laughed.

Sexual assault is indeed exactly the kind of thing middle aged people got away with in their youth. But middle aged people also got away with physical assault. Shoplifting. Theft. Breaking and entering. Speeding. Illegal drug use. Drug dealing. Using prostitutes. Being prostitutes. Illegal consumption of alcohol. Name it, some or even many of us in our middle age got away with it. To what extent do we hold us all responsible now?

There are statues of limitations, but sometimes you will not be able to get certain employment, and we find that reasonable in our society. In the past, we held SC nominees to the highest standards of all. I don't think that is a bad thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he is a liar and a sexual predator, and he needs to be removed from the judiciary entirely.

Your opinion does not matter.

r

All you liberal fools keep setting each other off on how bad he is, ohhhh he has to be removed from his position, he is a rapist.....

So after hearing yourself and people like you write about this for days, how can anyone disagree with you?

So many other message boards in the country have majority people supporting BK. You should read there point of view as well on this whole issue.


It’s people like this on the board who were like Trump has no chance of winning the election. I know nobody who will vote for him.... and then he wins.

Get out of your bubble...

You might want to check the national polling on that...