Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

The Current was priceless in its coverage of NIMBY hypocrisy. Certain gadflies wouldn’t dare to speak up in public if that paper were here to hold them to account. It’s loss is deeply mourned.

Like people pushing to increase traffic onto side streets while simultaneously trying to stop traffic from using their cut through streets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

Sounds about right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

/golfclap at your ability to repeat talking points, but you're full of bs with that stat. You can't simultaneously take a number from DDOT and then also ignore the fact that on the same slide they introduce it they say about half that volumes goes completely outside the local study area.

https://imgur.com/a/flx1fIU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

This is an example of a hyperbolic statement made by someone who either doesn't know how to read DDOTs charts or else is taking bad information from someone else who doesn't know how to read DDOT's charts and is choosing to spread the misinformation widely.

It says quite clearly that it anticipates that 7000+ will be diverted onto neighborhood streets. It also says quite clearly that it assumes that bicycling trips will go from 300 to 3,000, that less people will use the bus and that there will be a statistically 0% increase in metro ridership.

Yeah, it doesn't say that. It says that like half those trips divert OUTSIDE OF THE SECONDARY STUDY AREA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

Get your popcorn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

Have you tried setting up a RSS feed or just checking your ANC website once a month?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

Have you tried setting up a RSS feed or just checking your ANC website once a month?

Yeah sure. I will get on that right after I Telnet into Pine to check my email and cruise my Usenet groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

Have you tried setting up a RSS feed or just checking your ANC website once a month?

Yeah sure. I will get on that right after I Telnet into Pine to check my email and cruise my Usenet groups.

If you can’t be bothered, you won’t have a voice. Except on DCUM. There’s always time for DCUM, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

Have you tried setting up a RSS feed or just checking your ANC website once a month?

Yeah sure. I will get on that right after I Telnet into Pine to check my email and cruise my Usenet groups.

If you can’t be bothered, you won’t have a voice. Except on DCUM. There’s always time for DCUM, right?

Everyone is going to have a voice on this project once it actually begins. The bike lobby people seem to think this debate is over. They are in for a rude awakening. The debate over this has only begun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

This is an example of a hyperbolic statement made by someone who either doesn't know how to read DDOTs charts or else is taking bad information from someone else who doesn't know how to read DDOT's charts and is choosing to spread the misinformation widely.

It says quite clearly that it anticipates that 7000+ will be diverted onto neighborhood streets. It also says quite clearly that it assumes that bicycling trips will go from 300 to 3,000, that less people will use the bus and that there will be a statistically 0% increase in metro ridership.

Yeah, it doesn't say that. It says that like half those trips divert OUTSIDE OF THE SECONDARY STUDY AREA.

Don't forget that they also say that bicyclist trips will increase from 300 to 3,000!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this thread is a preview of the epic sh*tstorm that's coming when average people realize this project is on the docket. most people have no idea and will not be happy.

False. Most people have engaged in the issue and are supportive. It is only the handful of entitled single family owners who were too busy at their beach houses or mountain houses during COVID that are just waking up to this. Those of us who have and had been here an follow the notices from the ANCs and DDOT are not surprised by this, at all.

Ha. This is beyond parody. To point out the painfully obvious, normal people do not follow notices from ANC and DDOT.

In the absence of the NorthWest Current, how else does one stay on top of what is happening in the community? The ANC and DDOT post to the neighborhood listservs. That is about as good as it gets in 2019-2022 when this study took place.

Have you tried setting up a RSS feed or just checking your ANC website once a month?

Yeah sure. I will get on that right after I Telnet into Pine to check my email and cruise my Usenet groups.

If you can’t be bothered, you won’t have a voice. Except on DCUM. There’s always time for DCUM, right?

Everyone is going to have a voice on this project once it actually begins. The bike lobby people seem to think this debate is over. They are in for a rude awakening. The debate over this has only begun.

Why wait? Why not start your campaign now?

[Anonymous]

My neighborhood list serve has been overrun by the same three or four people playing chicken little. It begs the question why anyone is on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had the opportunity over the weekend to talk to a few of my neighbors about the bike lanes (and the had spoken to other neighbors previously) - we live close to Connecticut Avenue. After about a 20 minute discussion, we determined that on our block, there are two households vehemently opposed, and everyone is for. No one sees it as that big of a deal and appears to be a way of significantly improve the quality of life on the corridor.

The people opposed post all the time on our neighborhood email list.

7000+ a day cars through the neighborhood streets isn’t a big deal?

This is an example of a hyperbolic statement made by someone who either doesn't know how to read DDOTs charts or else is taking bad information from someone else who doesn't know how to read DDOT's charts and is choosing to spread the misinformation widely.

It says quite clearly that it anticipates that 7000+ will be diverted onto neighborhood streets. It also says quite clearly that it assumes that bicycling trips will go from 300 to 3,000, that less people will use the bus and that there will be a statistically 0% increase in metro ridership.

Yeah, it doesn't say that. It says that like half those trips divert OUTSIDE OF THE SECONDARY STUDY AREA.

Don't forget that they also say that bicyclist trips will increase from 300 to 3,000!

Sorry, should have used the proper numbers. It's 300 to 3,200. A 1,067% increase.

[Anonymous]

Four streets that will see a significant increase in traffic under the plan according to DDOT are 34th, Albermarle, Broad Branch and Reno. Would anyone like to guess what those four streets have in common?

[Anonymous]

34th and Reno are effectively the same road. And they are already bumper to bumper, so they won't be getting worse.