APS School Board Caucus - Voting Underway

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

I'm PP above and you lost me on the Kadera "knows how to actually get stuff done" argument because of her stupid drawing of desks spaced in a classroom that wasn't spaced right. She's also released a lot of sloppy analysis plans of various issues, all of which is supposed to demonstrate her competence to me. It's had the opposite effect. In contrast, I am on-board with Turner's argument that she understands that the role of a school board member is to ask hard questions to make sure staff's work is competent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

I'm PP above and you lost me on the Kadera "knows how to actually get stuff done" argument because of her stupid drawing of desks spaced in a classroom that wasn't spaced right. She's also released a lot of sloppy analysis plans of various issues, all of which is supposed to demonstrate her competence to me. It's had the opposite effect. In contrast, I am on-board with Turner's argument that she understands that the role of a school board member is to ask hard questions to make sure staff's work is competent.

Turner doesn't even know what questions to ask. All she and her group know how to do is scream that teachers are lazy.

Was Miranda effective in getting any results. Nope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's only one candidate that has "gone low". The one who keeps slinging unfounded accusations at the other without any proof or receipts whatsoever. Kadera needs to stop before she loses the whole thing.

She also needs to google "digital blackface". Not a good look.

I’m no Mary supporter, but I don’t think you understand digital blackface, because that Michelle Obama picture wasn’t it.

Was that not a picture of Michelle Obama? And not a flattering picture either. Using a Black person’s image meme style for a White person to make a statement is digital blackface, period. The meme added nothing to her message but pettiness.

Mary Kadera was wrong in her judgement to post that underhanded reply, and to use Obama’s image to do so. And because you differ in opinion won’t make it right.

I’m all for more people participating in the Democratic. I’m not for White women co-opting Black voices to stir drama.


You've gotta be kidding me. It's ok for Miranda campaign to openly encourage Republicans to vote in the Dem caucus - against the rules but you object to Mary using a picture of our former Democratic first lady just because she happens to be black. Oh my oh my.

[Anonymous]

I’m all for more people participating in the Democratic. I’m not for White women co-opting Black voices to stir drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Miranda Turner and her campaign is doing what they are supposed to be doing - running to win an election.

Mary Kadera is sitting on her hands and complaining.

Turner wants it more.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

More like:

Kadera = status quo
Turner = attempted accountability

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's only one candidate that has "gone low". The one who keeps slinging unfounded accusations at the other without any proof or receipts whatsoever. Kadera needs to stop before she loses the whole thing.

She also needs to google "digital blackface". Not a good look.

I’m no Mary supporter, but I don’t think you understand digital blackface, because that Michelle Obama picture wasn’t it.

Was that not a picture of Michelle Obama? And not a flattering picture either. Using a Black person’s image meme style for a White person to make a statement is digital blackface, period. The meme added nothing to her message but pettiness.

Mary Kadera was wrong in her judgement to post that underhanded reply, and to use Obama’s image to do so. And because you differ in opinion won’t make it right.

You've gotta be kidding me. It's ok for Miranda campaign to openly encourage Republicans to vote in the Dem caucus - against the rules but you object to Mary using a picture of our former Democratic first lady just because she happens to be black. Oh my oh my.

DP - It is NOT against the rules for non-Democrats to vote in the ACDC democratic open school board caucus. Voters do not register by party in Virginia. It is also NOT against the rules for a candidate to encourage any voter of any background (what do they do? ask if they're republican or democrat before they talk to them when they're campaigning?) to vote in an open caucus.

[Anonymous]

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I’m all for more people participating in the Democratic. I’m not for White women co-opting Black voices to stir drama.

Naive NP here: I sincerely don't understand why it's an issue for a white person to use a quote, crediting it to the proper (Black) person, in a sincere (though childish) way of making her point. MK's point was taking the high road when others take the low road. I really do not believe Michelle Obama would object to her use of her image and quote in that context.

[Anonymous]

I think one larger issue, as someone who has consistently backed Dem candidates, is that it is silly for the Dems to get into these local races in this way. The caucus is a bad idea. This would have been a chance to get rid of it and change to either just straight-up voting (marginally better idea) or to allowing the SB race to proceed as a non-partisan race. In Arlington, you are not going to have some staunch right-winger win the SB race even if it's non-partisan.

I am not a registered Democrat and never have been. It's not required or expected of me as a Virginia voter for the last 20 years. I found the language at the start of the caucus voting off-putting and reeking of some kind of purity pledge. FWIW I'm largely a socialist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

Again, if you are going to hold Turner responsible for everything said by APE supporters you also have to hold Kadera responsible for everything said by the anti-school moves coalition last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think one larger issue, as someone who has consistently backed Dem candidates, is that it is silly for the Dems to get into these local races in this way. The caucus is a bad idea. This would have been a chance to get rid of it and change to either just straight-up voting (marginally better idea) or to allowing the SB race to proceed as a non-partisan race. In Arlington, you are not going to have some staunch right-winger win the SB race even if it's non-partisan.

I am not a registered Democrat and never have been. It's not required or expected of me as a Virginia voter for the last 20 years. I found the language at the start of the caucus voting off-putting and reeking of some kind of purity pledge. FWIW I'm largely a socialist.

As a fellow lefty/socialist, I couldn't agree more! We ought to welcome more nuance and debate into these elections. The Arlington Dems are blocking progressive discourse and leaving us with these uninspiring candidates.

Their lack of leadership experience is seriously concerning. Shame on both of them for avoiding substantive issues and instead shifting focus to nonsense like online voting. Arlington might be solidly blue, but we have so much inequity deeply embedded in our public schools. I'm really hoping for another option this fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

Again, if you are going to hold Turner responsible for everything said by APE supporters you also have to hold Kadera responsible for everything said by the anti-school moves coalition last year.

DP. It’s true that neither denounced bad behavior from their groups - assuming McCrazy was part of McKinley’s PTA efforts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Kadera's little slips are kind of reminding me of how last year I though Sandy Munnell was a solid choice and then her post-caucus AEM posts revealed that she's actually a nutbag.

+1

Kadera = status quo
Turner = accountability + change

Is that what you’ll be shouting from the ice cream truck? Kind of wordy.

Here, fixed it for you:

Kadera = knows how to actually get stuff done
Turner = screaming at teachers and angry bro dads

I don't think you appreciate how posts like this come across to undecided voters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I’m all for more people participating in the Democratic. I’m not for White women co-opting Black voices to stir drama.

Naive NP here: I sincerely don't understand why it's an issue for a white person to use a quote, crediting it to the proper (Black) person, in a sincere (though childish) way of making her point. MK's point was taking the high road when others take the low road. I really do not believe Michelle Obama would object to her use of her image and quote in that context.

It’s not. PP is trying to liken it to using a Meme of a POC to be funny. Not the same thing to tweet an actual quote and picture of the former First Lady as it is to tweet a GIF or Meme of a POC to make a joke or as a “reaction.”

And I don’t think she’s stirring drama. I do think there are a bunch of angry bro Dads who have gone low, and continue to go low, even in print Op Eds. It’s fine to believe APS has made and continues to make mistakes. Calling it’s leaders lazy, dumb, malicious, thuggish, etc., is uncalled for and “low.”