You need to educate yourself on what privilege is. Its surely not the poor kids living in Appalachia who are white. |
de·lu·sion·al /dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/ Learn to pronounce adjective characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder. "hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia" based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken. "their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers" |
Luckily it's, of course, not an either/or proposition and intelligent adults can hold more than one idea in their heads at a time. |
Oh good grief. |
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OP here. Thanks for the responses. We are a new family to the school so that’s why I posted on here. We are trying to get more context on the lesson. Kids were told to write a list of their privileges and told to include race(if white), religion, cisgender, right handed, able bodied.
We came from a public school and I’m not sure if this would’ve been a lesson at that school. I think it’s a lesson to be taught in HS, where kids are better equipped to understand it. Good thing is we had had meaningful conversation with DS yesterday about this and I’m sure we will continue to. - Not Tucker Carlson |
Where did I say that? Did I say anything about antisemitism not being real? Did I suggest that learning about the history or being aware it exists would make people more anti-Semitic? You do realize that my family can have Jewish heritage as well right?
Yes let’s talk about this. Who is in charge of the government....elected officials. Who is voting for the elected officials that are fine with 500+kids being separated from their families? So I am not sure why you see the kid at Sidwell as being the key to this issue in this moment when they likely can’t vote and even more so not in a swing state. They can as a school collect donations to send to the kids, which pre-COVID I have seen school in the area do.
You realize the conversation started (probably by a troll but I will play along) by someone talking about privilege and not acknowledging it. I’m not sure how you want it both ways for people to say there is none but then say why aren’t using any of those privileges to help others. You also don’t know in what ways people are working to help others. Everyone can’t do everything but the questions is is everyone trying to do at least something so as a whole we move forward.
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This frame is a lot better than your first post OP. I think this is more than appropriate. The understanding that some of these things are “better” emerges in toddlerhood. So important to talk about this early and often. |
NP: "Privilege" is a broad term that can be applied to a multitude of circumstances. Wealth and beauty have their privileges; education has its privileges, heritage has its privileges, VIP passes have attached privileges, age has its privileges, citizenship has it privileges, and so on. Each of those things can also carry with them disadvantages, and having them doesn't not always mean you enjoy the benefits. Cinderella certainly did not feel that beauty was was a privilege at the beginning of her tale because it made her the object of jealousy, scorn and abuse; but it would have been silly of her to try to argue that her individual circumstance meant that the privilege of beauty did not exist at all. You do need to educate yourself on what "white privilege" is because your argument makes you look ignorant. "White privilege" means something very, very different from the kind of "privilege" you are referencing when you say poor kids in Appalachia are not privileged. "White privilege" doesn't mean "all white people enjoy the privileges of safety, wealth, education, and health." It does not mean all white people enjoy all the advantages in this world. Everyone knows they don't. That fact is not relevant to the discussion of "white privilege." Why? Because that is not what "white privilege" means. Do some open minded research and learn what people actually are talking about if you want to enter the argument, because you are failing in your uninformed attempt at this time. |
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+1 I'm the PP who grew up in a shockingly poor area, in a rural community decimated by meth. If you asked me to complete the assignment in the OP, I would start with: Privileges: white, able-bodied, cis, English speaking in the US, college degree Marginalizations: 1G college student, grew up poor, abuse survivor, no safety net See how my whiteness didn't protect me from the other marginalizations, but neither did they contribute to them? It's hard to be a 1G college student, working while I go to school, and dealing with a history of abuse. But it would be harder to be all those things and Black, because race intersects with other marginalizations. My path from poverty to a stable middle-class life was not easy, but it wasn't made harder by my race. That's all this assignment is about, and I wouldn't hesitate at all for my upper elementary schooler to begin wrestling with all of this. |
Why all the focus on immutable traits though? How about focusing on character and responsibility? Hard work and perseverance? Resilience? All this “check your privilege” talk is about knocking people down a few pegs. How about acknowledging that those fortunate to have resources have a responsibility to give back to their communities? Where is that discussion? What does examining privilege get us beyond guilt or resentment? |
| White privilege is born out of the desire to deflect cause for the inability of a singular group of minorities not performing and growing as they had hoped. It has really nothing to do with actual white people; only to try and guilt them into giving more in terms of economics and opportunity. That's it. Yes..it's a made-up idea. Just ignore it. It'll go away too. |
Yes absolutely this! |
NP. My initial reaction to this is that it sounds like the kids are a little young for this. I thought about it though and I think the teacher was trying to make a point. It sounds a little bit like this lesson the blue eyed brown eyed experiment. When you watch it it’s a little hard to watch because some of the kids get very upset but I think she was trying to make a point and did so brilliantly. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=oGvoXeXCoUY |
Why do you think examining privilege is the end state instead of the first step? Also the responsibility isn’t just to help your own community. In the case of 1G students, would you expect someone with no one in the family that has gone to college to help other 1G students fill out college applications or someone that has recognized that one of their privileges is having generations of college educated family members and uses that privilege to help someone without it? That doesn’t mean that people that were the first generation have zero responsibility to give back but rather they shouldn’t be expected to carry that responsibility alone as the marginalized community. Also, the “check your privilege” talk IMO isn’t about knocking someone down a peg. Like I woke up this morning and thought ohhh, that will sure knock Larlo down a peg if we talk about privilege. Just no. Now if Larlo is insistent that we lead the exact same lives and doesn’t see why we could possibly need a program that helps first generation college students transition to college or a volunteer/mentoring to help with college applications this is where understanding privilege and marginalization is helpful to either feel a responsibility to help or not make it harder for the people that are helping. |