Bethesda Magazine College Bound Chart for 2020 grads

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Wootton and Walter Johnson had more MIT acceptances each than Blair.

Once again, for those of you in the back: Half of the Blair magnet class goes to UMD-CP every year, and it's not because they cannot get into HYP and MIT. It's because their families cannot afford to pay for those schools, and/or because they prefer to save their money for graduate or professional school.

Cute story. But even here in the back of the class I can see that the stats don’t support your argument.

57 kids from Blair applied and 2 were accepted at MIT.

26 and 3 for Wootton and 17 and 3 for Walter Johnson.

It’s not that they weren’t applying - they didn’t get in.

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Here is the Polaris list of Maryland schools sending (not acceptances) to Harvard, Princeton and MIT

https://www.polarislist.com/best-high-schools-in-maryland

A little out of date but it has the numbers for 2015-2018.
Regarding MIT Blair had 5 students accepted in 2015, 6 students accepted in 2016, 3 students in 2017, 11 students in 2018, 5 students in 2019 and 2 in 2020

What happened in 2018? So is that then a good result for the STEM magnet school? With the 1540 median SAT and advanced curriculum?

I don’t know if it is a good result but when you look at the Polaris website and control for size (100 students in blair Magnet) I don’t know if any school in the country does better at MIT admissions. Having said that no school guarantees success with top 20 admissions.
I wish your child the best of luck. I hope they find what they are looking for in high school and beyond.
FWIW I don’t think blair would be a good choice if you are so worried about college admissions
The program is very collaborative and the kids really support and look out for each other. They don’t compare college acceptances or worry that if a friend gets into college x that means there is less chance that they will get in. It just isn’t part of the culture. I think it would be very difficult for a family to enjoy the experience if they are constantly comparing their child to the other students in the program or worrying that a student’s success would come at the expense of their child

I think TJ does better.

TJ ihas 4x as many students

TJ has higher sat scores than Blair.

Not higher than the Blair Magnet

TJ has the highest average SAT scores of all high schools in the country.

I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. But I am not surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Wootton and Walter Johnson had more MIT acceptances each than Blair.

Once again, for those of you in the back: Half of the Blair magnet class goes to UMD-CP every year, and it's not because they cannot get into HYP and MIT. It's because their families cannot afford to pay for those schools, and/or because they prefer to save their money for graduate or professional school.

Cute story. But even here in the back of the class I can see that the stats don’t support your argument.

57 kids from Blair applied and 2 were accepted at MIT.

26 and 3 for Wootton and 17 and 3 for Walter Johnson.

It’s not that they weren’t applying - they didn’t get in.

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Here is the Polaris list of Maryland schools sending (not acceptances) to Harvard, Princeton and MIT

https://www.polarislist.com/best-high-schools-in-maryland

A little out of date but it has the numbers for 2015-2018.
Regarding MIT Blair had 5 students accepted in 2015, 6 students accepted in 2016, 3 students in 2017, 11 students in 2018, 5 students in 2019 and 2 in 2020

What happened in 2018? So is that then a good result for the STEM magnet school? With the 1540 median SAT and advanced curriculum?

I don’t know if it is a good result but when you look at the Polaris website and control for size (100 students in blair Magnet) I don’t know if any school in the country does better at MIT admissions. Having said that no school guarantees success with top 20 admissions.
I wish your child the best of luck. I hope they find what they are looking for in high school and beyond.
FWIW I don’t think blair would be a good choice if you are so worried about college admissions
The program is very collaborative and the kids really support and look out for each other. They don’t compare college acceptances or worry that if a friend gets into college x that means there is less chance that they will get in. It just isn’t part of the culture. I think it would be very difficult for a family to enjoy the experience if they are constantly comparing their child to the other students in the program or worrying that a student’s success would come at the expense of their child

I think TJ does better.

TJ ihas 4x as many students

TJ has higher sat scores than Blair.

Not higher than the Blair Magnet

TJ has the highest average SAT scores of all high schools in the country.

I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. But I am not surprised.

Let me spell it out for you. TJ's average SAT score is higher than Blair magnet. Is that good enough for you?

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Anonymous wrote:PP 12:35 If your sole goal is college admissions, please don't apply to the magnet program. It's not what it's about. We understand that our kid would be at the tippy top student at a regular school- but maybe only average in a magnet program.

Sincerely RMIB Magnet Mom.

Agree with this

+1 if you want to play that game, you're better off being a big fish in a little pond. Go to a mediocre performing school, and outshine everyone, then apply to elite univ. They'd love to have you.

So you’d rather do that in college? Isn’t that the same thing people above are arguing? Go to a magnet school, then a mediocre college and shine so some great grad school might take you?

I get you all need to convince yourselves of your noble motives in going through the magnet program but I don’t see some moral failing in considering what impact this has on your kids’ future options. We’ve looked hard at the magnet programs in MoCo - let me tell you something - they aren’t some gift from God. Interesting to be sure but your arrogance at being a magnet parent is astounding.

I'd rather my kid have excellent-quality experiences wherever he is. If he learns to work hard in very challenging classes, he will excel wherever he goes.

It's not about "mediocre" (your word) or "elite" schools. It's about him and his experience.

Hey asshat, mediocre wasn’t my word. Look at 13:26 post - where it was first used to describe non magnet high schools. Evidently you magnet parents love to criticize non magnet high schools but recoil when the word is used to describe the colleges your children attend.

You wrote the words “mediocre college” above.

Are those not your words?

In response to the prior post - it’s the same fact pattern just moved up a tier

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Anonymous wrote:PP 12:35 If your sole goal is college admissions, please don't apply to the magnet program. It's not what it's about. We understand that our kid would be at the tippy top student at a regular school- but maybe only average in a magnet program.

Sincerely RMIB Magnet Mom.

Agree with this

+1 if you want to play that game, you're better off being a big fish in a little pond. Go to a mediocre performing school, and outshine everyone, then apply to elite univ. They'd love to have you.

So you’d rather do that in college? Isn’t that the same thing people above are arguing? Go to a magnet school, then a mediocre college and shine so some great grad school might take you?

I get you all need to convince yourselves of your noble motives in going through the magnet program but I don’t see some moral failing in considering what impact this has on your kids’ future options. We’ve looked hard at the magnet programs in MoCo - let me tell you something - they aren’t some gift from God. Interesting to be sure but your arrogance at being a magnet parent is astounding.

If anyone is arrogant here, it’s you with your “let me tell you something” and “mediocre college” with zero experience with the magnet or college admissions. They are giving you really good advice, and you should stop and just listen.

Really? I can’t get a straight answer - just platitudes. And an attempt to paint people like me as some kind of impure mercenary who doesn’t believe in the nobility of the magnet program. Oh, and how their kids would be “tippy top” among the unwashed masses at a “regular” school. .

If your kid likes both the program and potentially wants to go to somewhere other than UMd what is the balancing act? It’s not enough to be so pure of heart and motive which if you read is the only “really good advice” that’s been provided.

This isn’t some holy order they are joining. Kids may want the program AND the college choices. Figuring out if and how much you’re hurting the latter in favor of the former is a relevant concern, your sanctimonious blathering aside.

I will probably regret responding to your rude post but let me try
I would say that it is difficult to stand out from your peer group in the magnet program when the average SAT score is around 1540 and 40% are NMSF.
If you are interested in going to a top 20 school you would need to have something on your application that makes you stand out For some colleges it could be national level awards eg Regeneron. There are even students who manage to juggle the program with high level musical pursuits or athletic pursuits. Athletic hooks are very desirable as you know
So it is a challenge, and yes I think it would be easier for the same student in their home school to stand out, get the “best student I’ve taught in years” recommendations etc.
I would agree with some of the previous posters who have simply pointed out to you that their children are getting a quality education at UMD and have a wonderful peer group Many of these students have turned down top 20 offers to attend UMD.
If your main priority is maximizing the likelihood of your child attending a top 20 school or if that is what your child really wants then you are probably better off at your home school

Thank you.

Considering how difficult it evidently is to be accepted at a top 20 school and the low numbers of admits, how do people react when these students regularly turn them down to attend UMd? I mean if you were one of the 50+ kids rejected from MIT how do you feel if that kid decides to go to UMD?

I would feel it’s none of my business. (It’s not). That I should have done things differently for my own application if I’m not happy with the outcome. For many kids college choices end up about being finances. This is going to be a very long road for you if you’re already this wound up about it.

You can’t have it both ways. First you say they don’t apply because of finances. Then you say that they don’t go because of finances. The reality seems to be they mostly get rejected because it sure looks like they apply and don’t get it. Except for the three who then didn’t attend because of finances.

You are teaching me that creating an alternate reality seems to be how magnet parents deal with it.

You are being very rude to a person who is taking time and energy to respond to your questions.

Do you see me whining about being told I’m all wound up about it and the like. I take it and I move on. Too bad you all are better at dishing out the catty remarks than you are accepting them.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Wootton and Walter Johnson had more MIT acceptances each than Blair.

Once again, for those of you in the back: Half of the Blair magnet class goes to UMD-CP every year, and it's not because they cannot get into HYP and MIT. It's because their families cannot afford to pay for those schools, and/or because they prefer to save their money for graduate or professional school.

Cute story. But even here in the back of the class I can see that the stats don’t support your argument.

57 kids from Blair applied and 2 were accepted at MIT.

26 and 3 for Wootton and 17 and 3 for Walter Johnson.

It’s not that they weren’t applying - they didn’t get in.

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Here is the Polaris list of Maryland schools sending (not acceptances) to Harvard, Princeton and MIT

https://www.polarislist.com/best-high-schools-in-maryland

A little out of date but it has the numbers for 2015-2018.
Regarding MIT Blair had 5 students accepted in 2015, 6 students accepted in 2016, 3 students in 2017, 11 students in 2018, 5 students in 2019 and 2 in 2020

What happened in 2018? So is that then a good result for the STEM magnet school? With the 1540 median SAT and advanced curriculum?

I don’t know if it is a good result but when you look at the Polaris website and control for size (100 students in blair Magnet) I don’t know if any school in the country does better at MIT admissions. Having said that no school guarantees success with top 20 admissions.
I wish your child the best of luck. I hope they find what they are looking for in high school and beyond.
FWIW I don’t think blair would be a good choice if you are so worried about college admissions
The program is very collaborative and the kids really support and look out for each other. They don’t compare college acceptances or worry that if a friend gets into college x that means there is less chance that they will get in. It just isn’t part of the culture. I think it would be very difficult for a family to enjoy the experience if they are constantly comparing their child to the other students in the program or worrying that a student’s success would come at the expense of their child

I think TJ does better.

TJ ihas 4x as many students

TJ has higher sat scores than Blair.

Not higher than the Blair Magnet

TJ has the highest average SAT scores of all high schools in the country.

I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. But I am not surprised.

Let me spell it out for you. TJ's average SAT score is higher than Blair magnet. Is that good enough for you?

No because you're wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Wootton and Walter Johnson had more MIT acceptances each than Blair.

Once again, for those of you in the back: Half of the Blair magnet class goes to UMD-CP every year, and it's not because they cannot get into HYP and MIT. It's because their families cannot afford to pay for those schools, and/or because they prefer to save their money for graduate or professional school.

Cute story. But even here in the back of the class I can see that the stats don’t support your argument.

57 kids from Blair applied and 2 were accepted at MIT.

26 and 3 for Wootton and 17 and 3 for Walter Johnson.

It’s not that they weren’t applying - they didn’t get in.

]

Here is the Polaris list of Maryland schools sending (not acceptances) to Harvard, Princeton and MIT

https://www.polarislist.com/best-high-schools-in-maryland

A little out of date but it has the numbers for 2015-2018.
Regarding MIT Blair had 5 students accepted in 2015, 6 students accepted in 2016, 3 students in 2017, 11 students in 2018, 5 students in 2019 and 2 in 2020

What happened in 2018? So is that then a good result for the STEM magnet school? With the 1540 median SAT and advanced curriculum?

I don’t know if it is a good result but when you look at the Polaris website and control for size (100 students in blair Magnet) I don’t know if any school in the country does better at MIT admissions. Having said that no school guarantees success with top 20 admissions.
I wish your child the best of luck. I hope they find what they are looking for in high school and beyond.
FWIW I don’t think blair would be a good choice if you are so worried about college admissions
The program is very collaborative and the kids really support and look out for each other. They don’t compare college acceptances or worry that if a friend gets into college x that means there is less chance that they will get in. It just isn’t part of the culture. I think it would be very difficult for a family to enjoy the experience if they are constantly comparing their child to the other students in the program or worrying that a student’s success would come at the expense of their child

I think TJ does better.

TJ ihas 4x as many students

TJ has higher sat scores than Blair.

Not higher than the Blair Magnet

TJ has the highest average SAT scores of all high schools in the country.

I guess reading comprehension is not your forte. But I am not surprised.

Let me spell it out for you. TJ's average SAT score is higher than Blair magnet. Is that good enough for you?

No because you're wrong.

No idea about TJ’s SAT scores but Blair Magnet is 785 Math and 754 reading. Average ACT 35
Talk about splitting hairs though. I am sure TJ’s is comparable.

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About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Typically, between about 140 to 190 out of about 450 graduates.

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Not every NMSF at Blair is in the magnet

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Typically, between about 140 to 190 out of about 450 graduates.

157 this year (2020). Or about 32% of the 450.

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Typically, between about 140 to 190 out of about 450 graduates.

157 this year (2020). Or about 32% of the 450.

TJ had 132 NMSF for 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Typically, between about 140 to 190 out of about 450 graduates.

157 this year (2020). Or about 32% of the 450.

TJ had 132 NMSF for 2020.

And 164 NMSF for 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:About 40% of the program at Blair are NMSF. How much is the percentage at TJ? Something like 120 out of 500?

Typically, between about 140 to 190 out of about 450 graduates.

157 this year (2020). Or about 32% of the 450.

TJ had 132 NMSF for 2020.

And 164 NMSF for 2016.

And 20 after the lottery.

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The stats are definitely making me reconsider the magnet programs. I’m puzzled by the modest admissions stats for such high achieving kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The stats are definitely making me reconsider the magnet programs. I’m puzzled by the modest admissions stats for such high achieving kids.

Discrimination against Asian college applicants.