Any chance DCPS reopens in person for Term 2 or Term 3?

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Anonymous wrote:All those recommending 1 or 2 lower grades are back in school need a reality check. How do you think those kids get to school? For Title 1 schools - it is not uncommon for an older sibling (4th or 5th grader) to take them with them.

This is not an easy problem for a diverse urban area to solve.

This is not an inconvenience of dropping off 1 child as you supervise an older student and coordinating a car pool

You are confused because you are reading the posts purporting to care about the poor underserved families as genuine concern for those families. But that's all a smoke screen for these posters to get their kids out of the house and back into their own schools. The actual complications of "diverse urban area(s)" or Title I populations don't actually concern them.

I don't know what you're talking about. I want K and 1st prioritized specifically because it will help the kids who need it most. Objecting to that on the grounds that "they might have an older sibling who walks them to school!" is just frankly bizarre. My kid is in 3rd, so this has nothing to do with getting him back to school. I'm also a little tired of all the patronizing towards Title I schools and families, as if you don't think there's any way they could get it together to get their kids to school? Why would you think that? And if you don't think they can figure out how to get their kids to school, why would you think DL is better?

There's a lot to unpack there. Mostly because of how tightly wound the misdirection and BS is packed. No one is "objecting". I think what PPP was saying was that it isn't as simple as "let's get the PK3 kids back into school because that's all that matters." There are other considerations here. There are SOOOOOO many posts in DCUM where people actually type the words "this is easy", "this isn't complicated", "all we need is willpower", etc. What's most amusing about your reply is that you cannot even grasp that the concern articulated by PPP is a real one. Which also makes your objection to being patronized so funny. Two sentences after illustrating that you simply cannot grasp why some else's concerns might be relevant for at least consideration (you called it "bizarre"), and one sentence after you clarify that you don't actually have to solve for the operational challenges cited (your kid is in 3rd grade only), you then object to being accused of not even seeing a possible issue. But what comes next is my favorite part. After showing indifference and ignorance to the plight of differently situated families you then go on to speak on behalf of the Title I schools and families. This is rhetorical genius! And it is complete with multiple references to "they"; trust me, you didn't need to emphasize that word in order for us to understand you are talking about "them" and not "you". Finally, you insert the frequently deployed on DCUM red herring that anyone has argued that DL is preferable to in-person from an educational perspective. No one has said, and I sure don't believe it. Unfortunately that's not the question we're solving for. We're solving for a public health crisis and then within that rubric we need to figure out how to operate schools.

TLR

The short version: I’m a teacher and I hate statistics and data and facts and I’m never going to go to work again.

‘I’m a parent and I hate being with my kid’

Actually my kids are at camp. Was sad not to get to hang out with them as much but they need to be around other children and they need to get back to learning things (since it wasn’t happening with distance learning). It’s been so far so good. They love it and we can actually do our jobs now.

If your kids are at camp instead of in DL school then your kids are 3 and 4. I love the idea that parents of 3 and 4 year olds think the entire education system should be built around their needs.

There’s camps for all ages. They’re probably only going to get more popular the longer distance learning continues.

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

NYC isn’t even back in school yet. What are you talking about? No charters have completely opened back up. They are opening for select students. Unless you are taking about Truth with a grand total of 86 enrolled students.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Jan 2021 could happen but it depends on virus levels and if a vaccine is being rolled out.

It is highly unlikely there will be a vaccine by Jan 2021. The trial that's furthest along right now is predicting a Spring/Summer 2021 rollout, and that's if everything goes according to plan and they don't have to halt temporarily for some reason.

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

I don't think there is any way to read the recent DCUM activity and not see an underlying hatred towards teachers. I'm not a teacher. The vitriol aimed at them is both surprising and sad.

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

I don't think there is any way to read the recent DCUM activity and not see an underlying hatred towards teachers. I'm not a teacher. The vitriol aimed at them is both surprising and sad.

Huh? I love teachers. That's why I think kids should be back in the classroom with teachers, especially the little ones. I also think the vast majority of teachers are probably going to want to go back to the classroom after a few weeks of DL too.

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Okayy let's go over this for a minute. I posted that I think K and 1st should be prioritized to return in person. Someone else replied that that's unrealistic because some families rely on their older kids taking the younger ones to school. I replied that that seemed like a bizarre nitpick, and that I have faith that Title I families can get their kids to school. And then wall of text about how I am redirecting, don't care about the "realities of an urban school district," just want to get my kid out of the house, and something somthing about solving for rubrics?

The fact that you continue to refer to it as a bizarre nitpick shows your inability to grasp the issue. PPP was trying to explain that there were other considerations and externalities beyond "just send them back". Also, if you can't parse a sentence using the word "rubric" then how on earth are you claiming to have read and understood the myriad materials on COVID that would lead to any rational conclusion.

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

NYC isn’t even back in school yet. What are you talking about? No charters have completely opened back up. They are opening for select students. Unless you are taking about Truth with a grand total of 86 enrolled students.

Charters opening for select students is a start. NYC is committed to reopening. There's a lot of noise by the teacher's union, but NYC is also being very proactive in assessing ventilation, testing, and outdoor schools. Ex: https://gothamist.com/news/half-nyc-schools-have-been-approved-outdoor-learning-fall-so-far and https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/nyregion/schools-reopen-testing-nyc.html

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Okayy let's go over this for a minute. I posted that I think K and 1st should be prioritized to return in person. Someone else replied that that's unrealistic because some families rely on their older kids taking the younger ones to school. I replied that that seemed like a bizarre nitpick, and that I have faith that Title I families can get their kids to school. And then wall of text about how I am redirecting, don't care about the "realities of an urban school district," just want to get my kid out of the house, and something somthing about solving for rubrics?

The fact that you continue to refer to it as a bizarre nitpick shows your inability to grasp the issue. PPP was trying to explain that there were other considerations and externalities beyond "just send them back". Also, if you can't parse a sentence using the word "rubric" then how on earth are you claiming to have read and understood the myriad materials on COVID that would lead to any rational conclusion.

Yes, it was a bizarre nitpick. Obviously, nobody on here is setting out their 100 page plan for kindergarteners to be phased in first. But yes, it's absurd for you to just pick something out of the air to prove it won't work. All you appear to be doing is repeatedly making up new "considerations and externalities" to justify with DC and DCPS don't appear to be taking any action to get kids back to school.

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Okayy let's go over this for a minute. I posted that I think K and 1st should be prioritized to return in person. Someone else replied that that's unrealistic because some families rely on their older kids taking the younger ones to school. I replied that that seemed like a bizarre nitpick, and that I have faith that Title I families can get their kids to school. And then wall of text about how I am redirecting, don't care about the "realities of an urban school district," just want to get my kid out of the house, and something somthing about solving for rubrics?

The fact that you continue to refer to it as a bizarre nitpick shows your inability to grasp the issue. PPP was trying to explain that there were other considerations and externalities beyond "just send them back". Also, if you can't parse a sentence using the word "rubric" then how on earth are you claiming to have read and understood the myriad materials on COVID that would lead to any rational conclusion.

Yes, it was a bizarre nitpick. Obviously, nobody on here is setting out their 100 page plan for kindergarteners to be phased in first. But yes, it's absurd for you to just pick something out of the air to prove it won't work. All you appear to be doing is repeatedly making up new "considerations and externalities" to justify with DC and DCPS don't appear to be taking any action to get kids back to school.

and as for "rubrics," sometimes you just need to have goals and be less concerned with buzzwords.

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If the only options are going back under the exact same circumstances of the past or distance learning, then we will be distance learning for a very long time.

Do you think that we should forgo better options than (pretty ineffective) DL because they’re not perfect?

For the little kids whose only possible way to get to school is for an older sibling to take them — do you think they are logging on and getting anything of value now?

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Here's proof that Bowser deliberately fudged the numbers to get us to Phase 2, which ironically is now preventing us from getting to Phase 3 until we get a vaccine:

https://twitter.com/allisongeroi/status/1304435525563154433?s=19

It's time to accept that the kids aren't going back to the school buildings until fall 2021 and maybe fall 2022, all because Bowser wanted to allow indoor dining.

What is the impeachment process in DC. It needs to be explored l.

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Okayy let's go over this for a minute. I posted that I think K and 1st should be prioritized to return in person. Someone else replied that that's unrealistic because some families rely on their older kids taking the younger ones to school. I replied that that seemed like a bizarre nitpick, and that I have faith that Title I families can get their kids to school. And then wall of text about how I am redirecting, don't care about the "realities of an urban school district," just want to get my kid out of the house, and something somthing about solving for rubrics?

The fact that you continue to refer to it as a bizarre nitpick shows your inability to grasp the issue. PPP was trying to explain that there were other considerations and externalities beyond "just send them back". Also, if you can't parse a sentence using the word "rubric" then how on earth are you claiming to have read and understood the myriad materials on COVID that would lead to any rational conclusion.

Yes, it was a bizarre nitpick. Obviously, nobody on here is setting out their 100 page plan for kindergarteners to be phased in first. But yes, it's absurd for you to just pick something out of the air to prove it won't work. All you appear to be doing is repeatedly making up new "considerations and externalities" to justify with DC and DCPS don't appear to be taking any action to get kids back to school.

NP here who is a teacher and has been for long enough to know that kids who fall behind in lower elementary have a difficult time throughout the rest of their education because everything is based on reading and reading comprehension. High schoolers who read at a third or fourth grade level fell behind in K and 1st grade. Those years are incredibly important. If a family wants to keep their child home due to exposure concerns or an older sibling walking them to school then DCPS will continue to offer DL for those students. But K and 1st grade should be prioritized.

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Anonymous wrote:When DCPS returns, if I see a single post complaining about the hybrid schedule or how the class is cancelled due to some outbreak I’m going to report it. I’m NOT a teacher, but this thread has gotten ridiculous. People are taking about forcing vaccines on adults and pretty much calling teachers monsters. Look at yourselves. This is insanity.

I think you're seeing what you want to see. Maybe ask yourself why you think it is so utterly impossible for DCPS to return to school, when NYC is diving right in, as well as some DC charters?

NYC isn’t even back in school yet. What are you talking about? No charters have completely opened back up. They are opening for select students. Unless you are taking about Truth with a grand total of 86 enrolled students.

Charters opening for select students is a start. NYC is committed to reopening. There's a lot of noise by the teacher's union, but NYC is also being very proactive in assessing ventilation, testing, and outdoor schools. Ex: https://gothamist.com/news/half-nyc-schools-have-been-approved-outdoor-learning-fall-so-far and https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/nyregion/schools-reopen-testing-nyc.html

Lol. Let’s talk after NYC public schools actually opens. You know nothing if you really think it’s going well. The mayor’s office is saying all the right things but they are just lying about the state of the schools, the amount of PPE, etc. On the ground it’s been a hot mess.

I mean I hope it does go well, I want my kids back in school but I don’t have a ton of faith in NYC.

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We send in students of essential workers and special education kids.
Ps- teachers, trump declared as essential so that means our kids go back. They go back- we go back. Done & done