Trump's 25 Sexual Assault Victims Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utter fail. How many of these “accusers” are merely opportunists?

Seems like none of them.

But the cons have a shocking willingness to smear them. 25 victims - and that’s not hardly most of them - and you think they’re opportunists, not that Trump is a slime ball?

Actually, seems like all of them so far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utter fail. How many of these “accusers” are merely opportunists?

Seems like none of them.

But the cons have a shocking willingness to smear them. 25 victims - and that’s not hardly most of them - and you think they’re opportunists, not that Trump is a slime ball?

OP here. Yes, I took the plunge and bought the book All The President's Women. That author has an appendix with 42 alleged Trump victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utter fail. How many of these “accusers” are merely opportunists?

Seems like none of them.

But the cons have a shocking willingness to smear them. 25 victims - and that’s not hardly most of them - and you think they’re opportunists, not that Trump is a slime ball?

Actually, seems like all of them so far.

Nobody thinks a hardened Con like you would take facts on face value.

But to me at least, the stories so far seem pretty credible. Several of Trump's victims have made sworn statements. Some have stories that have been consistent over 30 years (Harth, with or without 2018 payments to go public). Ivana had really good reasons for changing her story (Trump threatened to take $25 million away from Ivana). You didn't even bother to challenge others, like Anderson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utter fail. How many of these “accusers” are merely opportunists?

Seems like none of them.

But the cons have a shocking willingness to smear them. 25 victims - and that’s not hardly most of them - and you think they’re opportunists, not that Trump is a slime ball?

Actually, seems like all of them so far.

Nobody thinks a hardened Con like you would take facts on face value.

But to me at least, the stories so far seem pretty credible. Several of Trump's victims have made sworn statements. Some have stories that have been consistent over 30 years (Harth, with or without 2018 payments to go public). Ivana had really good reasons for changing her story (Trump threatened to take $25 million away from Ivana). You didn't even bother to challenge others, like Anderson.

Didn't Swetnik make a sworn statement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utter fail. How many of these “accusers” are merely opportunists?

Seems like none of them.

But the cons have a shocking willingness to smear them. 25 victims - and that’s not hardly most of them - and you think they’re opportunists, not that Trump is a slime ball?

Actually, seems like all of them so far.

Nobody thinks a hardened Con like you would take facts on face value.

But to me at least, the stories so far seem pretty credible. Several of Trump's victims have made sworn statements. Some have stories that have been consistent over 30 years (Harth, with or without 2018 payments to go public). Ivana had really good reasons for changing her story (Trump threatened to take $25 million away from Ivana). You didn't even bother to challenge others, like Anderson.

Didn't Swetnik make a sworn statement?

C'mon. One liar doesn't turn the rest of the world into liars.

Anyway. Swetnick walked back some of her accusations after facts were found against her. Do you have any facts against Harth's 1997 sworn statement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

The first sign of trouble came the day before the evening groping, in an initial business meeting in which, Harth and Houraney say, Trump spent the time asking about the breasts of the beauty contestants — real or enhanced? — and staring at Harth, then 30. At one point he asked Houraney, “Are you sleeping with her?” Houraney explained awkwardly that they were a couple, but Trump was unfazed.

“You know, there’s going to be a problem,” Trump told Houraney, according to a 1997 sexual harassment lawsuit Harth filed against him. “I’m very attracted to your girlfriend.”

On Jan. 24, 1993, Harth and Houraney went to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida for a contract-signing celebration, bringing along some “calendar girls” at Trump’s request. He offered Harth a tour of the estate and then pulled her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka.

“I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he’s pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me,” Harth told me. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.” Harth says she was desperately protesting, and finally managed to run out of the room and find the group again.

She and Houraney left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.

Some of the calendar girls stayed, and the sexual harassment lawsuit says Trump showed up uninvited in the predawn hours in the bedroom of one of the young women; she kicked him out but was shaken. When contacted, the woman declined to speak about the experience, and I’m not naming her here.

Trump was then with Marla Maples, who was pregnant that spring with his daughter Tiffany, but this didn’t constrain him. He took an intense interest in the calendar girls, pursuing some and rejecting others, Harth says, adding that he had an aversion to black contestants and made derogatory comments about them.

Trump assaulted Harth in Ivanka's bedroom. Ivanka would have been 10 in 1993. Ponder that for a minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*********** DAY FIVE **********
********** LISA BOYNE **********

[Anonymous]

Allegations:

Lisa Boyne, a health food business entrepreneur, told HuffPost in October 2016 that she attended a 1996 dinner with Trump and modeling agent John Casablancas during which several other women in attendance were forced to walk across a table in order to leave.

As the women walked on the table, Boyne says that Trump looked up their skirts and commented on their underwear and genitals. Trump allegedly asked Boyne for her opinion on which of the women he should sleep with.

Boyne joined Jessica Leeds, Samantha Holvey, Rachel Crooks — three others who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct — in calling on Congress to investigate Trump in December.


Trump's response:

Hicks denied Boyne's allegations. "Mr. Trump never heard of this woman and would never do that," she told HuffPost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the New York Times:

The first sign of trouble came the day before the evening groping, in an initial business meeting in which, Harth and Houraney say, Trump spent the time asking about the breasts of the beauty contestants — real or enhanced? — and staring at Harth, then 30. At one point he asked Houraney, “Are you sleeping with her?” Houraney explained awkwardly that they were a couple, but Trump was unfazed.

“You know, there’s going to be a problem,” Trump told Houraney, according to a 1997 sexual harassment lawsuit Harth filed against him. “I’m very attracted to your girlfriend.”

On Jan. 24, 1993, Harth and Houraney went to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida for a contract-signing celebration, bringing along some “calendar girls” at Trump’s request. He offered Harth a tour of the estate and then pulled her into the empty bedroom of his daughter Ivanka.

“I was admiring the decoration, and next thing I know he’s pushing me against a wall and has his hands all over me,” Harth told me. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.” Harth says she was desperately protesting, and finally managed to run out of the room and find the group again.

She and Houraney left rather than stay the night, as they had intended.

Some of the calendar girls stayed, and the sexual harassment lawsuit says Trump showed up uninvited in the predawn hours in the bedroom of one of the young women; she kicked him out but was shaken. When contacted, the woman declined to speak about the experience, and I’m not naming her here.

Trump was then with Marla Maples, who was pregnant that spring with his daughter Tiffany, but this didn’t constrain him. He took an intense interest in the calendar girls, pursuing some and rejecting others, Harth says, adding that he had an aversion to black contestants and made derogatory comments about them.

Trump assaulted Harth in Ivanka's bedroom. Ivanka would have been 10 in 1993. Ponder that for a minute.

Please read this as me shouting in absolute disgust, obviously not at you but at the disgustingness of Donald: what the flip kind of a parent would use their child’s bedroom for a sexual event, let alone an unwanted one? What the frack is wrong with that man?

[Anonymous]

^ opportunists gonna opportune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Allegations:

Lisa Boyne, a health food business entrepreneur, told HuffPost in October 2016 that she attended a 1996 dinner with Trump and modeling agent John Casablancas during which several other women in attendance were forced to walk across a table in order to leave.

As the women walked on the table, Boyne says that Trump looked up their skirts and commented on their underwear and genitals. Trump allegedly asked Boyne for her opinion on which of the women he should sleep with.

Boyne joined Jessica Leeds, Samantha Holvey, Rachel Crooks — three others who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct — in calling on Congress to investigate Trump in December.


Trump's response:

Hicks denied Boyne's allegations. "Mr. Trump never heard of this woman and would never do that," she told HuffPost.

Another opportunist

In her interview with the Huffington Post, Boyne claims that the incident happened at a dinner in summer 1996, when she was 25 and working at a think-tank. She was living in Manhattan and was friends with Sonja Tremont, who would become famous as Sonja Morgan on Real Housewives of New York.

Morgan also spoke with the Huffington Post and told the site that the dinner did happen. She even confirmed that the she and Boyne had dinner with Trump and Casablancas at Raoul’s in SoHo. However, she did not recall Trump doing anything lewd at the event.

“I don’t remember any of that kind of behavior,” Morgan told the Post. “But I have been known to dance on tables.”

The Post also spoke with her roommate, Karen Beatrice, who said that Boyne never called her. Boyne was surprised that Beatrice denied the incident happened. Beatrice said that she also met Trump and said he was “nothing but gracious and charming.”

Boyne also has a Twitter page, but she is not active. Oddly enough, her most recent activity on the site is retweeting a Donald Trump Jr. tweet.

https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/who-is-lisa-boyne-donald-trump-sexual-assault-inappropriate-behavior-lewd-sonja-morgan-latest-accuser-bio/

So, other people who were there claim it didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Allegations:

Lisa Boyne, a health food business entrepreneur, told HuffPost in October 2016 that she attended a 1996 dinner with Trump and modeling agent John Casablancas during which several other women in attendance were forced to walk across a table in order to leave.

As the women walked on the table, Boyne says that Trump looked up their skirts and commented on their underwear and genitals. Trump allegedly asked Boyne for her opinion on which of the women he should sleep with.

Boyne joined Jessica Leeds, Samantha Holvey, Rachel Crooks — three others who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct — in calling on Congress to investigate Trump in December.


Trump's response:

Hicks denied Boyne's allegations. "Mr. Trump never heard of this woman and would never do that," she told HuffPost.

Another opportunist

In her interview with the Huffington Post, Boyne claims that the incident happened at a dinner in summer 1996, when she was 25 and working at a think-tank. She was living in Manhattan and was friends with Sonja Tremont, who would become famous as Sonja Morgan on Real Housewives of New York.

Morgan also spoke with the Huffington Post and told the site that the dinner did happen. She even confirmed that the she and Boyne had dinner with Trump and Casablancas at Raoul’s in SoHo. However, she did not recall Trump doing anything lewd at the event.

“I don’t remember any of that kind of behavior,” Morgan told the Post. “But I have been known to dance on tables.”

The Post also spoke with her roommate, Karen Beatrice, who said that Boyne never called her. Boyne was surprised that Beatrice denied the incident happened. Beatrice said that she also met Trump and said he was “nothing but gracious and charming.”

Boyne also has a Twitter page, but she is not active. Oddly enough, her most recent activity on the site is retweeting a Donald Trump Jr. tweet.

https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/who-is-lisa-boyne-donald-trump-sexual-assault-inappropriate-behavior-lewd-sonja-morgan-latest-accuser-bio/

So, other people who were there claim it didn't happen.

Morgan didn't claim it didn't happen. They didn't confirm. There's a big difference.

Also,

Morgan does have links to Trump. According to her website bio, she worked with Trump as a luxury brand consultant. The site includes a photo of Morgan with Trump at his wedding to Marla Maples.

https://heavy.com/news/2016/10/who-is-lisa-boyne-donald-trump-sexual-assault-inappropriate-behavior-lewd-sonja-morgan-latest-accuser-bio/

[Anonymous]

OP here. Yes, Boyne is the first accuser for whom it's basically she-said-he-said.

There are no decades-old sexual misconduct lawsuits, for example from 1993 (Ivana) or 1997 (Harth). There are no witnesses or friends the accuser confided in decades before Trump ran for president, unlike Leeds, Anderson, and Harth.

None of this means Boyne is lying, though. Also, it seems consistent with Trump's p--ssy-grabbing behavior.

[Anonymous]

More from Sonja Morgan, who was at the dinner with Boyne, Trump and Casablancas:

The reality show personality said the dinner was actually sometime in the early 1990s, after Trump's divorce from his first wife Ivana but before his marriage to Marla Maples in 1993.

She said she did not remember anything lewd from the future politician and that as a typical night on the town during the period, it probably involved dancing on tables.

"I'm sure we were. Everyone was dancing on tables," Morgan, 52, said, later adding "Nobody comes home and complains about anybody looking up their skirt, let alone Donald Trump."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-looked-skirts-talked-models-genitals-report-article-1.2829721

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More from Sonja Morgan, who was at the dinner with Boyne, Trump and Casablancas:

The reality show personality said the dinner was actually sometime in the early 1990s, after Trump's divorce from his first wife Ivana but before his marriage to Marla Maples in 1993.

She said she did not remember anything lewd from the future politician and that as a typical night on the town during the period, it probably involved dancing on tables.

"I'm sure we were. Everyone was dancing on tables," Morgan, 52, said, later adding "Nobody comes home and complains about anybody looking up their skirt, let alone Donald Trump."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-looked-skirts-talked-models-genitals-report-article-1.2829721

So Morgan confirmed the dinner took place with Boyne, Trump, Casablancas and herself. She confirmed that she and others were dancing on the table. She didn't confirm (but she didn't deny) that Trump was lewd about the dancers' female parts.

Is it possible Morgan didn't hear Trump being lewd because... just a guess here... Morgan herself was up dancing on the table?

Or, Morgan isn't confirming (nor is she denying) the part about Trump being lewd because she's does business with Trump and went to his wedding with Marla Maples.

It could go either way.