#JustinsTrafficJam

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Case in point: At the final community meeting in May, T&ES Director Yon Lambert announced that the process would now include a City Council vote. This rendered the already delayed Traffic Board hearing meaningless and delayed the process again from June to September. Does anyone really believe that Yon Lambert made that decision without political intervention?


Everyone knew that if the Traffic and Parking Board decided for Option 3 the keep it 4 people would appeal, and that if they decided to keep it 4, the option 3 people would appeal. By setting up an automatic appeal it made the process simpler. It did not extend the time.

Most of the process duration was caused by the need to wait for a VDOT study relative to their express lanes.

When the Mayor said we can't do this again, I don't think he meant the duration of the process. I think he meant the massive vitriol against electeds, staff, and fellow citizens.

Mr Rossello apparently thinks all the process problems could be avoided if the City had simply gone with his side from the beginning. I suppose that's true, but it omits the fact that his side's position was opposed by large numbers of Alexandrians, as well as going against city policies and plans. If Mr Rossello thinks the way to smooth a broken process is for the Council so subcontract policy decisions to a coalition of civic associations with at best problematic processes for gathering resident input and whose residents altogether represent a minority of all Alexandrians, he is not likely to succeed in that.



How many is the “large number of Alexandrians.”


1200 Alexandrians signed a petition supporting Option 3.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If this had been put to vote by the citizens of the city, there would not have been a snowball's chance in hell that it would have passed. Anyone saying otherwise is incredibly naive.


Most people would not have voted, or would have wondered why the City was spending $ on a referendum on something that road designers should decide.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If this had been put to vote by the citizens of the city, there would not have been a snowball's chance in hell that it would have passed. Anyone saying otherwise is incredibly naive.


Most people would not have voted, or would have wondered why the City was spending $ on a referendum on something that road designers should decide.


Haha. During this very contentious time period, I read public comments by Alexandria residents in local zip codes/half to one mile to Seminary Road say:

"Better them (Seminary Road) than us! Just keep this craziness free of our streets! ". Down by like Mansion.

I know many of them: purely looking out for themselves/their lives/their properties. Just like Seminary Road and the many Associations do.

Next up: Dysfunction Junction. Yes lets add bike lanes to Quaker given 395 HOV Express Lanes recent additions! In fact, why doesn't Alexandria City petition to add bike lanes on both 395N/S and 395 express. Lets have chaos everywhere!
Anonymous
Here's an idea! Let's add bicycle lanes to Russell Lane! I mean why not? Major road to 395 just like Seminary is to Seminary 395 express and 395 is.

It's time to cut Russell Lane down to 2 lanes from 4!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Case in point: At the final community meeting in May, T&ES Director Yon Lambert announced that the process would now include a City Council vote. This rendered the already delayed Traffic Board hearing meaningless and delayed the process again from June to September. Does anyone really believe that Yon Lambert made that decision without political intervention?


Everyone knew that if the Traffic and Parking Board decided for Option 3 the keep it 4 people would appeal, and that if they decided to keep it 4, the option 3 people would appeal. By setting up an automatic appeal it made the process simpler. It did not extend the time.

Most of the process duration was caused by the need to wait for a VDOT study relative to their express lanes.

When the Mayor said we can't do this again, I don't think he meant the duration of the process. I think he meant the massive vitriol against electeds, staff, and fellow citizens.

Mr Rossello apparently thinks all the process problems could be avoided if the City had simply gone with his side from the beginning. I suppose that's true, but it omits the fact that his side's position was opposed by large numbers of Alexandrians, as well as going against city policies and plans. If Mr Rossello thinks the way to smooth a broken process is for the Council so subcontract policy decisions to a coalition of civic associations with at best problematic processes for gathering resident input and whose residents altogether represent a minority of all Alexandrians, he is not likely to succeed in that.



How many is the “large number of Alexandrians.”


1200 Alexandrians signed a petition supporting Option 3.



As stated up thread, 1200 signatures out of a population of 144,000 is not a large number. Why do you continue to push this false narrative when it is simply silly.
Anonymous
Just thinking. I’m glad this is being called a “diet.” Hopefully, like most diets, it will ultimately fail, and things will go back to the way they were before.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Case in point: At the final community meeting in May, T&ES Director Yon Lambert announced that the process would now include a City Council vote. This rendered the already delayed Traffic Board hearing meaningless and delayed the process again from June to September. Does anyone really believe that Yon Lambert made that decision without political intervention?


Everyone knew that if the Traffic and Parking Board decided for Option 3 the keep it 4 people would appeal, and that if they decided to keep it 4, the option 3 people would appeal. By setting up an automatic appeal it made the process simpler. It did not extend the time.

Most of the process duration was caused by the need to wait for a VDOT study relative to their express lanes.

When the Mayor said we can't do this again, I don't think he meant the duration of the process. I think he meant the massive vitriol against electeds, staff, and fellow citizens.

Mr Rossello apparently thinks all the process problems could be avoided if the City had simply gone with his side from the beginning. I suppose that's true, but it omits the fact that his side's position was opposed by large numbers of Alexandrians, as well as going against city policies and plans. If Mr Rossello thinks the way to smooth a broken process is for the Council so subcontract policy decisions to a coalition of civic associations with at best problematic processes for gathering resident input and whose residents altogether represent a minority of all Alexandrians, he is not likely to succeed in that.



How many is the “large number of Alexandrians.”


1200 Alexandrians signed a petition supporting Option 3.



As stated up thread, 1200 signatures out of a population of 144,000 is not a large number. Why do you continue to push this false narrative when it is simply silly.


You're very wrong. 1300 signatures were directly impacted Alexandria City residents! If it didn't affect the rest of Alexandria City residents they could care less. That's why Dell Pepper failed as a West End Alexandria City councilwoman and needs to be voted out. But of course, our City doesn't allow "ward" representation, meaning those in Peppers direct jurisdiction should alone vote. She's old, she's bought off, Dell Pepper needs to be gone, and Alexandria City needs to move to ward representation for DIRECT representation on urgent matters!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fox 5 says that travel times for drivers have stayed the same or decreased.

https://www.fox5dc.com/video/627516


Great for them. Not for me. Mine has doubled.


You are part of the "them". Your travel time is included. Also, how long is your travel time, now that it has doubled?


45 minutes from 20 to drive my kids carpool for soccer practice. I can’t move the practice time or location. I cannot get off of work earlier. I drive 5 kids, so that’s 4 extra cars off the road. And then after I drop off I have to turn around and get right back in that traffic shenanigans for another 45 mins home to feed my other kids, deal with homework, life. So yeah, the double time on both ends is a nightmare. I am raising a family. I am making a living. I am paying my taxes. This has real life implications for us. And no I cannot do carpool on a bike. I am just dumbfounded at the lack of reasonableness, empathy and practicability.


Your travel time used to be 22 minutes but is now 45 minutes - both ways, in the afternoon, due to the Seminary Lane road diet?

If so, yes, that must be a miserable experience, but when you're driving across town in the afternoon peak drive time, then there are going to be a lot of other drivers on the road with you. And the safer and more convenient we make it for people who are not you to get places by walking or biking, the fewer people will be on the road with you in cars when you're in a car.

I agree that you can't do carpool on a bike, but it's definitely possible to get groups of kids places by bike, especially if they themselves are able to bike.


You need to get off whatever hallucinogenic you’re ingesting and wake up to reality. This is not Beijing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just thinking. I’m glad this is being called a “diet.” Hopefully, like most diets, it will ultimately fail, and things will go back to the way they were before.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Case in point: At the final community meeting in May, T&ES Director Yon Lambert announced that the process would now include a City Council vote. This rendered the already delayed Traffic Board hearing meaningless and delayed the process again from June to September. Does anyone really believe that Yon Lambert made that decision without political intervention?


Everyone knew that if the Traffic and Parking Board decided for Option 3 the keep it 4 people would appeal, and that if they decided to keep it 4, the option 3 people would appeal. By setting up an automatic appeal it made the process simpler. It did not extend the time.

Most of the process duration was caused by the need to wait for a VDOT study relative to their express lanes.

When the Mayor said we can't do this again, I don't think he meant the duration of the process. I think he meant the massive vitriol against electeds, staff, and fellow citizens.

Mr Rossello apparently thinks all the process problems could be avoided if the City had simply gone with his side from the beginning. I suppose that's true, but it omits the fact that his side's position was opposed by large numbers of Alexandrians, as well as going against city policies and plans. If Mr Rossello thinks the way to smooth a broken process is for the Council so subcontract policy decisions to a coalition of civic associations with at best problematic processes for gathering resident input and whose residents altogether represent a minority of all Alexandrians, he is not likely to succeed in that.



How many is the “large number of Alexandrians.”


1200 Alexandrians signed a petition supporting Option 3.



As stated up thread, 1200 signatures out of a population of 144,000 is not a large number. Why do you continue to push this false narrative when it is simply silly.


Neither is changing the road to fit the ideals and desires of basically one resident, Jim Durham, to connect his daughter’s house in her million dollar neighborhood on Howard to his million dollar neighborhood on Ft Worth. Both of them shouldn’t have run their mouths for months about how this was their main incentive, all while asking friends and their children to sign their petition. Durham got some of this volunteers with the blind cyclist charity he works for to call the city and ask for those pedestrian islands on Seminary, including the one conveniently located practically in front of his house. He staged that photo of his granddaughter riding her bike and put it on Twitter. The cost will be over a million dollars, according to the mayor, and that’s not even including the cost of extending the sidewalk in front of of the seminary on Seminary.

These improvements of 0.9 miles at $1,000,000 plus were made to help basically one person. How is that a large number of the Alexandria population? How is that even ethical? It is so blatantly awful. And with our taxpayers money! For this person. It is a traffic nightmare, each and every day.
Anonymous
Wonder if his poor granddaughter is now made to ride home in the dark from the upper school on Braddock Rd.
Anonymous
This wasn't about Jim Durham's grand-daughter folks! It was about reducing four active lanes on Seminary Road which had minimal traffic history of incidences and instead adding in bike lines. Get a life!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This wasn't about Jim Durham's grand-daughter folks! It was about reducing four active lanes on Seminary Road which had minimal traffic history of incidences and instead adding in bike lines. Get a life!


No, it was about what Durham personally wanted. Get a clue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This wasn't about Jim Durham's grand-daughter folks! It was about reducing four active lanes on Seminary Road which had minimal traffic history of incidences and instead adding in bike lines. Get a life!


No, it was about what Durham personally wanted. Get a clue.


You're lying! It was about Alexandria Traffic staff wanted!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Neither is changing the road to fit the ideals and desires of basically one resident, Jim Durham, to connect his daughter’s house in her million dollar neighborhood on Howard to his million dollar neighborhood on Ft Worth. Both of them shouldn’t have run their mouths for months about how this was their main incentive, all while asking friends and their children to sign their petition. Durham got some of this volunteers with the blind cyclist charity he works for to call the city and ask for those pedestrian islands on Seminary, including the one conveniently located practically in front of his house. He staged that photo of his granddaughter riding her bike and put it on Twitter. The cost will be over a million dollars, according to the mayor, and that’s not even including the cost of extending the sidewalk in front of of the seminary on Seminary.

These improvements of 0.9 miles at $1,000,000 plus were made to help basically one person. How is that a large number of the Alexandria population? How is that even ethical? It is so blatantly awful. And with our taxpayers money! For this person. It is a traffic nightmare, each and every day.


Don't forget the all-powerful bike lobby.

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