Can achievement gap be closed with extra tutoring?

[Anonymous]

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

So, all you need to solve the achievement gap is enough money for one parent not to work all summer, a pool membership, and a safe neighborhood with sidewalks within biking distance of a swimming pool.

EASY. If only all those poor people had thought of this simple solution.

[Anonymous]

Wait, you are saying white kids days aren’t disrupted? Most teachers don’t allow any kids to leave the classroom. I volunteer all the time. The disruptive kids disrupt EVERYONE.

I believe the argument is that the kids with the fewest resources are the ones MOST impacted by disruptive kids in the classroom. So, if you want to close the achievement gap, first make it possible for the poor kids who WANT to learn to do so by removing the disruptions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only thing MCPS Hs teaches is do the bare minimum.

I’d love to see what naviance shows MCPS hS Grads doing in college and gpa’s. Do they just continue this “learn to game the grade or test” and consider it learning?

Sadly, MCPS inflates grades so bad, has removed finals because so many failed, and basically honors courses that give an entire 1 point GPA bump is considered “not remedial.” that colleges have to recalculate grades. It sucks. Whitman college matriculation were really weak this year. They need to do more for these advanced kids instead of hoping everyone is in the same math or English. Kids struggle at high end colleges for sure. No more 79.5 and 89.5 = a 5.0 GPA.

Do you know the goal for EVERY 4/5th grade student is in compacted math and they all take IM in 6th? That can’t happen because the spread is so high. So the only way to do this is to dumb down compacted math. Just another “advanced” class, not really advanced so everyone can play. It is a joke.

They did that this year in some schools already. All kids in College Gardens were placed in Compacted Math this year.

That is pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

Specifically, friends within walking distance. Plus a cul-de-sac, a stay-at-home parent, a pool membership, a pool and playgrounds and ball fields all within walking/biking distance, woods behind houses...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

So, all you need to solve the achievement gap is enough money for one parent not to work all summer, a pool membership, and a safe neighborhood with sidewalks within biking distance of a swimming pool.

EASY. If only all those poor people had thought of this simple solution.

Can you name all the unsafe neighborhoods in Montgomery County where you can't ride a bike or play in playgrounds once they are 8yr old? This isn't SE DC.
County or city pools are $5 to enter and they have very discounted memberships for kids on FARM
Most new neighborhoods have HOA that pay for the pool already. If you are in HUD, you have full use without pay
Many areas have playground camps which cost $200 for most of the summer and even cheaper if you are FARMS
Many parents rotate shifts so there is a parent home in the summer
Many kids stay home without parents as it is legal in MD after 8yrs old.

So sick of the excuses. Find a way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

So, all you need to solve the achievement gap is enough money for one parent not to work all summer, a pool membership, and a safe neighborhood with sidewalks within biking distance of a swimming pool.

EASY. If only all those poor people had thought of this simple solution.

Can you name all the unsafe neighborhoods in Montgomery County where you can't ride a bike or play in playgrounds once they are 8yr old? This isn't SE DC.
County or city pools are $5 to enter and they have very discounted memberships for kids on FARM
Most new neighborhoods have HOA that pay for the pool already. If you are in HUD, you have full use without pay
Many areas have playground camps which cost $200 for most of the summer and even cheaper if you are FARMS
Many parents rotate shifts so there is a parent home in the summer
Many kids stay home without parents as it is legal in MD after 8yrs old.

So sick of the excuses. Find a way.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Wait, you are saying white kids days aren’t disrupted? Most teachers don’t allow any kids to leave the classroom. I volunteer all the time. The disruptive kids disrupt EVERYONE.

I believe the argument is that the kids with the fewest resources are the ones MOST impacted by disruptive kids in the classroom. So, if you want to close the achievement gap, first make it possible for the poor kids who WANT to learn to do so by removing the disruptions.

Yea, cause there as o many poor kids who just do not want to learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Can you name all the unsafe neighborhoods in Montgomery County where you can't ride a bike or play in playgrounds once they are 8yr old? This isn't SE DC.
County or city pools are $5 to enter and they have very discounted memberships for kids on FARM
Most new neighborhoods have HOA that pay for the pool already. If you are in HUD, you have full use without pay
Many areas have playground camps which cost $200 for most of the summer and even cheaper if you are FARMS
Many parents rotate shifts so there is a parent home in the summer
Many kids stay home without parents as it is legal in MD after 8yrs old.

So sick of the excuses. Find a way.

What I'm sick of is people who are evidently unable to imagine that other people's life circumstances may be different from their own. But that's off topic for this forum, plus I'm a bit crabby today.

[Anonymous]

I think differentiation is the key. The floor needs to be higher. But then there should be no bar on acceleration.

Achievement gap is not the issue. The real issue is that the lower performing students need to be brought up to a minimum functional level.and all kids need to be educated to their full capacity.

Immigrants without legal standing need to pay a fee for getting their kids educated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

So, all you need to solve the achievement gap is enough money for one parent not to work all summer, a pool membership, and a safe neighborhood with sidewalks within biking distance of a swimming pool.

EASY. If only all those poor people had thought of this simple solution.

Can you name all the unsafe neighborhoods in Montgomery County where you can't ride a bike or play in playgrounds once they are 8yr old? This isn't SE DC.
County or city pools are $5 to enter and they have very discounted memberships for kids on FARM
Most new neighborhoods have HOA that pay for the pool already. If you are in HUD, you have full use without pay
Many areas have playground camps which cost $200 for most of the summer and even cheaper if you are FARMS
Many parents rotate shifts so there is a parent home in the summer
Many kids stay home without parents as it is legal in MD after 8yrs old.

So sick of the excuses. Find a way.

I almost hate people like you. You have no idea of any existence other than your own and have no idea why people do not have the options or make the choices that you make. I almost hate you but in the end I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

Specifically, friends within walking distance. Plus a cul-de-sac, a stay-at-home parent, a pool membership, a pool and playgrounds and ball fields all within walking/biking distance, woods behind houses...

That was a choice you made when you decided to rent or purchase your home. If you live in an apartment or condo, there is always a playground and a ton of kids around. Don't you have school buses? Aren't kids on them or at the bus stop? The pool is over a mile away. Easy on a bike. You rationalization why they need to stay couped up in a house staring at screens is pretty sad. Is that what you did as a kid?

[Anonymous]

If students are not attending school without a valid reason they should pay a daily fee for the days they miss. A fee of $200 would be appropriate for each day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No it isn’t. Sending them outside all day doesn’t involve screens. My kids go out and bike all day with friends. They go watch soccer games, go to playgrounds. Hike in the woods behind the houses. Sometimes play capture the flag in the cul de sac. There are no need for screens or any structure when you have friends. That is the part parents seem to forget. The hours of endless fun you had with friends. Learning to be yourself instead of a robot on a parent schedule. My son is 9 this year and is old enough to bike to the pool on his own with friends. 8 is the youngest for our pool, but most parents won’t let them go that young. This year he has 3 other friends allowed. So excited for him!

So, all you need to solve the achievement gap is enough money for one parent not to work all summer, a pool membership, and a safe neighborhood with sidewalks within biking distance of a swimming pool.

EASY. If only all those poor people had thought of this simple solution.

Can you name all the unsafe neighborhoods in Montgomery County where you can't ride a bike or play in playgrounds once they are 8yr old? This isn't SE DC.
County or city pools are $5 to enter and they have very discounted memberships for kids on FARM
Most new neighborhoods have HOA that pay for the pool already. If you are in HUD, you have full use without pay
Many areas have playground camps which cost $200 for most of the summer and even cheaper if you are FARMS
Many parents rotate shifts so there is a parent home in the summer
Many kids stay home without parents as it is legal in MD after 8yrs old.

So sick of the excuses. Find a way.

I almost hate people like you. You have no idea of any existence other than your own and have no idea why people do not have the options or make the choices that you make. I almost hate you but in the end I feel sorry for you.

It's okay. The feeling is mutual with people that whine and make excuses. I was a single mom in an apartment with my oldest for 5 years. There are always options. You chose to complain or give up instead. I feel sorry for your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think differentiation is the key. The floor needs to be higher. But then there should be no bar on acceleration.

Achievement gap is not the issue. The real issue is that the lower performing students need to be brought up to a minimum functional level.and all kids need to be educated to their full capacity.

Immigrants without legal standing need to pay a fee for getting their kids educated.

I agree that the standards are too high for some students to ever meet and not high enough for others. But this being America, everyone has to be equal so there is just one standard.

[Anonymous]

Poor perfoing students must attend Saturday school. If they don't fine them.

In this country education, food and transportation is free. This is a privilege paid by taxes of others
If you are pissing it away be chronic absentism then there should be economic consequences.