Columbia or Harvey Mudd?

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Congratulations to our daughter OP! It's a wonderful campus and a fabulous education!

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Don't need look back. Go forward.

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FWIW, if it were my kid I would have hoped she would have picked Harvey Mudd, even if the costs were the same. Congratulations!

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Anonymous wrote:Those Mudders know how to throw a good party .... I had an amazing experience attending another Claremont College so I’m gonna vote for MUDD.

Plus 1! Many a Mudd party...

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Congratulations!

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That’s so awesome OP. I was just on Mudd’s campus this weekend.... such awesome memories.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine answering “I went to Harvey Mudd” when you could say “Columbia” for the rest of your life.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:OP here, she's Harvey Mudd bound and very excited! Says she probably would have picked it even if costs were the same. Thanks for all the feedback. She is looking forward to a great CS education and the added opportunities of the other Claremonts.

Great! The guy I know there now has been really happy. Seems like a demanding yet rewarding academic environment.

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Anonymous wrote:Academics in STEM will know Harvey Mudd well. It sounds like some PPs are reigniting the debate DCUM so often seems to fall into re. name recognition among lay people and other factors pretty distant from the academic environment.

That said, I agree there are pros and cons to both. You've made a good list, OP. What is your DC thinking?

We can finance Columbia. Daughter definitely prefers the vibe at Mudd, but is afraid about what could happen if she decides she doesn't want to do STEM. All her friends/family are puzzling over Mudd as well, so while she knows Mudd has good tech outcomes, what happens if she didn't want to do that?

Mudd seems like a riskier option, basically.

Well that's easy - Pomona, Scripps, Pitzer, Claremont. Take classes or enroll there. One of my friend's DDs who could not get into Clarement enrolled at Scripps at takes classes on the other campuses.

You can cross register within the 5c. But OP's concern is what happens if the student doesn't want a STEM major? You still need a major at Harvey?

why you guys can't google is beyond me. YES - big political science, etc, opportunities and major at Mudd AND at the other colleges. Or she can just apply to one of the others for a transfer to that college if she chooses. https://www.hmc.edu/hsa/

Because it's OP's child, s/he needs to verify info through Mudd. I wouldn't make college decision by just by googling. Googled info should be verified through the college.

No, my complaint is with the PP who just dashes off "but op's concern is what happens if the student doesn't want a STEM major" You still need a major at Harvey" without bothering to even google the most basic fact. Anyone who knows anything about the Claremont Colleges knows that you can major in whatever you want in each college, so that if STEM doesn't work out, they can still be a political science major at Mudd or apply to transfer to one of the other colleges there. OR, just take political science courses in the other colleges. That's the beauty of the Claremont colleges. Why bother to post something so stupid without checking first? And then PP's response is "Because it's OP's child s/he needs to very info through Mudd". Oh, that's very helpful. Of course they should. My initial point was why make a stupid observation which either the reader should have known had they read all the posts or take three seconds to google. Or not post at all if you are just a stupid person. And then don't try to make it justifiable by putting the blame on the OP parent. I think some people post here just because it somehow makes them feel good about themselves - as if they can contribute or are knowledgeable - but most aren't and don't add anything to the discussion.

It was based on basic knowledge that a college requires basic core courses, unless it's an open curriculum school. STEM schools can't be open curriculum if ABET accredited. There must be core engineering required courses. This is why engineering is so hard.

This comment is non-responsive. Point is: don't post ignorance. Google if you don't know. Yes you can be a liberal arts major at Mudd, and/or take classes at the other collelges and/or apply as a transfer student. This is very well known in the college community.

OP's child has decided. Hopefully she considered your google info and verified with reputable source. Normally I would say, trust but verify. But your advice is so nonsensical and risky, I say distrust and verify.

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Anonymous wrote:Academics in STEM will know Harvey Mudd well. It sounds like some PPs are reigniting the debate DCUM so often seems to fall into re. name recognition among lay people and other factors pretty distant from the academic environment.

That said, I agree there are pros and cons to both. You've made a good list, OP. What is your DC thinking?

We can finance Columbia. Daughter definitely prefers the vibe at Mudd, but is afraid about what could happen if she decides she doesn't want to do STEM. All her friends/family are puzzling over Mudd as well, so while she knows Mudd has good tech outcomes, what happens if she didn't want to do that?

Mudd seems like a riskier option, basically.

Well that's easy - Pomona, Scripps, Pitzer, Claremont. Take classes or enroll there. One of my friend's DDs who could not get into Clarement enrolled at Scripps at takes classes on the other campuses.

You can cross register within the 5c. But OP's concern is what happens if the student doesn't want a STEM major? You still need a major at Harvey?

why you guys can't google is beyond me. YES - big political science, etc, opportunities and major at Mudd AND at the other colleges. Or she can just apply to one of the others for a transfer to that college if she chooses. https://www.hmc.edu/hsa/

Because it's OP's child, s/he needs to verify info through Mudd. I wouldn't make college decision by just by googling. Googled info should be verified through the college.

No, my complaint is with the PP who just dashes off "but op's concern is what happens if the student doesn't want a STEM major" You still need a major at Harvey" without bothering to even google the most basic fact. Anyone who knows anything about the Claremont Colleges knows that you can major in whatever you want in each college, so that if STEM doesn't work out, they can still be a political science major at Mudd or apply to transfer to one of the other colleges there. OR, just take political science courses in the other colleges. That's the beauty of the Claremont colleges. Why bother to post something so stupid without checking first? And then PP's response is "Because it's OP's child s/he needs to very info through Mudd". Oh, that's very helpful. Of course they should. My initial point was why make a stupid observation which either the reader should have known had they read all the posts or take three seconds to google. Or not post at all if you are just a stupid person. And then don't try to make it justifiable by putting the blame on the OP parent. I think some people post here just because it somehow makes them feel good about themselves - as if they can contribute or are knowledgeable - but most aren't and don't add anything to the discussion.

It was based on basic knowledge that a college requires basic core courses, unless it's an open curriculum school. STEM schools can't be open curriculum if ABET accredited. There must be core engineering required courses. This is why engineering is so hard.

This comment is non-responsive. Point is: don't post ignorance. Google if you don't know. Yes you can be a liberal arts major at Mudd, and/or take classes at the other collelges and/or apply as a transfer student. This is very well known in the college community.

OP's child has decided. Hopefully she considered your google info and verified with reputable source. Normally I would say, trust but verify. But your advice is so nonsensical and risky, I say distrust and verify.