How quickly can MCPS fix the curriculum nightmare?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

From what I understood, during year 1, 30 schools will do ELA and another 30 will do math; so 60 schools starting this September will actually have some form of the new curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

Thank you, most teachers couldn't agree more. Let's get it in here and going.

Now is not the time to for MCPS to be cheap, time is of the essence. Don't do this over 3 years to save a buck.

[Anonymous]

They’re not doing it to save a buck. I really don’t like MCPS, but they are following industry practices here. No one throws a new curriculum into a whole school system all at once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

From what I understood, during year 1, 30 schools will do ELA and another 30 will do math; so 60 schools starting this September will actually have some form of the new curriculum.

You mean elementary schools, right? Or middle schools as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:measure twice, cut one.

pick the damn best common core math and ELA out there and roll it out immediately.

Perhaps it would be better than to pick a curriculum and give teachers more than they month or two to actually learn how to teach it and make sure they have the materials and resources needed. Once again mcps is expecting teachers to build an airplane while they're already flying it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Read up on best practices for curriculum change. I’m no MCPS apologist, but it’s generally recommended that a school system implement a new curriculum over several years, to work out the kinks. Johns Hopkins recommended a gradual implementation in the audit.

Johns Hopkins also said 2.0 was not leading to good learning outcomes. Pick your poison. I'd much rather my kids have a good curriculum with "kinks."

Don't worry I'm sure that once curriculum 3.0 is fully adopted everyone will have some bad things to say about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

Thank you, most teachers couldn't agree more. Let's get it in here and going.

Now is not the time to for MCPS to be cheap, time is of the essence. Don't do this over 3 years to save a buck.

But I mean eventually they're going to adopt the curriculum so they're going to have to pay for everyone I don't really know if it's saving that much money to roll it out slowly I think it was more the idea was to make some schools be the guinea pigs to figure out all the bugs in the system.

It will be an expense though in purchasing new core reading materials unless all of the curticulum required read-alouds are migrated to ebooks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

From what I understood, during year 1, 30 schools will do ELA and another 30 will do math; so 60 schools starting this September will actually have some form of the new curriculum.

You mean elementary schools, right? Or middle schools as well?

Yes, 60 Elementary Schools starting in Sep (30 for ELA and 30 Math). As for MS (6th grade only) ,there will be 20 pilot schools doing ELA and another 20 doing math in September. The timeline is right here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/faq.aspx

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Read up on best practices for curriculum change. I’m no MCPS apologist, but it’s generally recommended that a school system implement a new curriculum over several years, to work out the kinks. Johns Hopkins recommended a gradual implementation in the audit.

Johns Hopkins also said 2.0 was not leading to good learning outcomes. Pick your poison. I'd much rather my kids have a good curriculum with "kinks."

Don't worry I'm sure that once curriculum 3.0 is fully adopted everyone will have some bad things to say about it.

Right. It will be the worst curriculum ever, and further evidence that MCPS is imploding.

[Anonymous]

which lucky schools get the new curriculum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re not doing it to save a buck. I really don’t like MCPS, but they are following industry practices here. No one throws a new curriculum into a whole school system all at once.

it's not new. C2.0 was new to the world, new to MCPS, new to teachers, and not even completed when it was smashed and mashed in.

that failed.

now they are selecting an existing, effective curriculum, get teacher buy=in and then get it going.

seriously, why would anyone put their K-2 kid through MCPS the next 2-3 years with this BS going on. the only certain thing is terrible curriculum, disruntled teachers, experienced teachers leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

From what I understood, during year 1, 30 schools will do ELA and another 30 will do math; so 60 schools starting this September will actually have some form of the new curriculum.

You mean elementary schools, right? Or middle schools as well?

Yes, 60 Elementary Schools starting in Sep (30 for ELA and 30 Math). As for MS (6th grade only) ,there will be 20 pilot schools doing ELA and another 20 doing math in September. The timeline is right here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/faq.aspx

They need to name the schools before June 1st private school tuitions are due. Ppl are getting really sick of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to have the entire new curriculum as soon as the BOE approves the purchase—most likely at their June 25 meeting. I would like to use it in my classroom even if my school is not among the first 30 chosen. Problem is, the vendors will likely sell it at a cost based on the number of students licensed to access it. That’s going to be a very expensive proposition. Responding to vendor questions after the RFP was released, it looks like MCPS is angling for a deal where the first 30 schools get access for the teachers and their students, but all other teachers would only get “preview” access—that means they could familiarize themselves with the new curriculum but could NOT use it to teach, because their students would not have access.

From what I understood, during year 1, 30 schools will do ELA and another 30 will do math; so 60 schools starting this September will actually have some form of the new curriculum.

You mean elementary schools, right? Or middle schools as well?

Yes, 60 Elementary Schools starting in Sep (30 for ELA and 30 Math). As for MS (6th grade only) ,there will be 20 pilot schools doing ELA and another 20 doing math in September. The timeline is right here: http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/faq.aspx

They need to name the schools before June 1st private school tuitions are due. Ppl are getting really sick of this.

Why don't you just go to private school? If you're basing your entire decision on the roll-out of the curriculum, you're bound to find other things about MCPS that irritate you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re not doing it to save a buck. I really don’t like MCPS, but they are following industry practices here. No one throws a new curriculum into a whole school system all at once.

it's not new. C2.0 was new to the world, new to MCPS, new to teachers, and not even completed when it was smashed and mashed in.

that failed.

now they are selecting an existing, effective curriculum, get teacher buy=in and then get it going.

seriously, why would anyone put their K-2 kid through MCPS the next 2-3 years with this BS going on. the only certain thing is terrible curriculum, disruntled teachers, experienced teachers leaving.

I meant new to the school system. No one implements a curriculum that's new to a school system all at once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re not doing it to save a buck. I really don’t like MCPS, but they are following industry practices here. No one throws a new curriculum into a whole school system all at once.

it's not new. C2.0 was new to the world, new to MCPS, new to teachers, and not even completed when it was smashed and mashed in.

that failed.

now they are selecting an existing, effective curriculum, get teacher buy=in and then get it going.

seriously, why would anyone put their K-2 kid through MCPS the next 2-3 years with this BS going on. the only certain thing is terrible curriculum, disruntled teachers, experienced teachers leaving.

It may not be new to the world, but it is new to MCPS and new to the teachers.