Pulled over today: weird experience

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It is specifically allowed in the law for kids to count.

As your kids get older, some people teach thier kids to put thier arms up when they pass a cop (Mom or dad yells arms up) to make them more visible.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok wow. I’m the (entitled/ asshole) OP and back for the first time in a couple hours. Didn’t mean to create a firestorm.

It's called "cause and effect" OP ... like, "if I drive in the HOV lane with two impossible-to-see babies, will I possibly be pulled over by an officer doing his job?

Right? Not sure what about that is so “weird.”

It’s weird that the cop made up a “spirit of the law” reprimand and told her she was “getting off” with a warning.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok wow. I’m the (entitled/ asshole) OP and back for the first time in a couple hours. Didn’t mean to create a firestorm.

It's called "cause and effect" OP ... like, "if I drive in the HOV lane with two impossible-to-see babies, will I possibly be pulled over by an officer doing his job?

Right? Not sure what about that is so “weird.”

It’s weird that the cop made up a “spirit of the law” reprimand and told her she was “getting off” with a warning.

Not really...he made a mistake and was embarrassed. He got defensive. He sounds like an asshole, but it's not surprising that he got a little defensive.

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No it really isn't a net good to society and is only a good to the parent - the point is to move people through a corridor more efficiently who need to get through the corridor. People going to work in cars with multiple people we want to move through the corridor as efficiently as possible to reward them for being more efficient. We don't want to give scarce space in the HOV lanes to people whose kids are electively enrolled in downtown daycare. We don't want to give the space to people who could travel at another time of day - we want incentives to reward the people who most need to be on the road at a particular time who are making smart choices. I fail to see why parents who elect to enroll their kids in school far from home should benefit from this system.

How do you think you can speak for everyone? There are people on this thread who want different things than you do. Sounds to me like you need to run for office!

OK fair point.

How about "HOV lanes are designed to move the most people possible through a corridor during peak demand times" instead?

But seriously HOV lanes are pretty commonly used now in congested areas, all of which in the US are in places with elected officials. And I don't think there is really much argument about what the intent of HOV lanes are though there may be some debate around the edges on an issue like this.

I do not understand why you are being so dense. If HOV lanes are designed to get the most people possible through a corridor during peak demand times then they can maximize their benefit by offering it not just to carpoolers but also people who are on the road for extra long times because they make multiple stops (like parents), people who are willing to pay an arm or a leg, people who can be dangerous when driving through extreme traffic (motorcycles), emergency vehicles and things like buses.

So under your definition of what the HOV should do, allowing people to shepard children through is completely in line.

What you want is "HOVE lanes are designed to reward those who carpool and reduce the number of cars on the road during peak demand times." That is not currently the case, if you'd like that to be what the rules are then, as other posters have suggested, GTFO and run for office instead of accusing people who follow the law of 'cheating'.

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem and are the dense one here - I never said folks with kids in the back were breaking the law.

But the point of HOV should be to get people through a congested corridor who have to get through that corridor.

People who work downtown at prescribed hours (which is a lot of people) need to be moved downtown in as efficient a manner as possible and many don't have alternatives.

Your kids on the other hand almost certainly have alternatives. And as a parent I think my kids would be better off spending as little time strapped in the car as possible and most of the kids I see on the road these days are staring at screens but perhaps you are having in depth discussions which will enable them to buy a house closer in when they settle down.

HOV lanes don't exist to provide you time with your kids and ease your miserable commute and make up for your lifestyle choice - they exist to create an efficiency.

The parents aren't driving through the congested corridor to drop their kids off and then driving back to Rockville. They are people who need to move through the congested corridor with or without their kids.

I don't commute with my kids through hov traffic but I can think of a million reasons why I would... just for example,

1) if your kid has a fever you have 60 minutes to pick them and some people work farther than that from home

2) I might have a demanding job that frowns on having to leave at 4:30 every day for daycare pickup so having the kid close to the office is helpful

3) I'm a fed who got a coveted spot in a fed daycare and can pay less

4) I got into a daycare so close to my work I can go over and see my kids during the day

As for the reason you so casually dismiss, it shows you don't know what it's like to be a parent of a young kid in the grind. Basically children's awake hours are 7am-8pm. If you're dropping them off at 7:30 to get to work by 8:30 and then leaving at 5 to pick them up by 6 you have basically 2.5 hours a day with your kid. 1.5 with a kid under 18 months who crashes at 7. If you can cut into that because you got a daycare close to work so you can talk to your kid for a half hour you take it.

You're just another person harboring secret rage that parents and children have any helping hands of any sort from society because this is America, where everyone does everything on their own, suffering and developing grit so they literally never impact people without small children. You believe this is their responsibility because they chose to have kids. This is what is wrong with America. We push each other down in a Sisyphean struggle for perfect fairness instead of treating each other like human beings.

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Imagine if you were Black. You wouldn’t even still be here to tell this story.

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Anonymous wrote:He couldn't see your two 6 month olds. I think it is great he pulled you over since it means they are actually checking.

Relax.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:He couldn't see your two 6 month olds. I think it is great he pulled you over since it means they are actually checking.

Relax.

Agree.

I’m glad she was pulled over initially. But the idiotic BS he pulled from his ass about the spirit of the law makes it enough of a story to mention here. Not worth calling him on it to his face or he would surely be the type to find some other invented violation, but it would have been difficult for me not to laugh at him.