Trump tried to fire Mueller in June.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why are we finding out about this now?

My theory - Trumps getting ready to try to fire Mueller again and somebody put it out there so Trump gets a feel for the backlash that will happen if he pulls the trigger on Mueller. The leak is an attempt to save Trump.

The idea of Trump testifying is terrifying him and causing him to freak out. It’s only weeks a way Trump is starting to feel the heat.

My thoughts exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.

Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.

Mueller will lay out his evidence to the public, as well as the House. The House won't impeach (R or D) without the public behind them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.

Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.

Mueller will lay out his evidence to the public, as well as the House. The House won't impeach (R or D) without the public behind them.

House GOP has never cared much about public opinion on any matter, including ding impeachment.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/12/21/us/impeachment-polls-public-support-for-president-for-closure-emerges-unshaken.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

[Anonymous]

Interesting Trump quote in the NY Times article

“I couldn’t have cared less about Russians having to do with my campaign.”


Anyone care to explan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why are we finding out about this now?

My theory - Trumps getting ready to try to fire Mueller again and somebody put it out there so Trump gets a feel for the backlash that will happen if he pulls the trigger on Mueller. The leak is an attempt to save Trump.

The idea of Trump testifying is terrifying him and causing him to freak out. It’s only weeks a way Trump is starting to feel the heat.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone wonder why the GOP is going to such great lengths to protect him? It can't be just for political reasons. This must go way beyond that. This is why I have no faith in them EVER impeaching him no matter what comes out. They are actively trying to cover things.

Russia, Russia, Russia....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love to know which sources shared this scoop with the NYT. Bannon? Can't imagine he's worried about pissing anyone off at this juncture.

Anonymous sources! The best kind!!

Do you know anything about journalism, Natasha?

I know, I know. You don't have a free press. But we do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting Trump quote in the NY Times article

“I couldn’t have cared less about Russians having to do with my campaign.”


Anyone care to explan?

Which NYT article? That quote is not in OP's article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And he would have had every legal right to do so. So what?

He has the right to fire his subordinates. He does not have the right to obstruct justice. If he fires someone in order to obstruct justice, it is a criminal act. You, as an employer, can fire someone because you don't like them, but you can't fire them because they are black or Jewish.

Hope that helps, but I'm guessing not.

No firing, no obstruction. Mueller wasn't fired. Got it? What he wanted to do and what he did do are two different things.

Obstruction doesn't require actual obstruction. Just intent. Or, in this instance, attempt.

The Russians don't know how the legal system works in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
People!

This is why Trump walked into the White House press room without warning and told them "on the record" that he would love to talk to Mueller!

Damage control. Trump knew the news that he had tried to fire Mueller was about to spill.

Nah, more likely, Trump is getting ready to try to fire Mueller again, and McGahn leaked this story to prevent it.

Yes, this is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hannity faceplants on the issue:

Sean Hannity: The New York Times is trying to distract you. They say Trump tried to fire Mueller, but our sources aren’t confirming that!

[Minutes Later]

Sean Hannity: Alright, yeah, maybe our sources confirm Trump wanted to fire Mueller. But so what? That’s his right. Anywho...

They are indeed also distracting. Did the New York Times write anything about the new texts about how the FBI was going to go soft on Clinton because she would probably be the next President and take it out on them?

How long did it take to come up with this one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It does two things:

1. It establishes Trump's intent with respect to the firing of James Comey. Here you have Trump trying to fire Mueller to stop the investigation and using a bunch of half baked excuses to justify it. A grand jury is going to see this as a pattern.


2. It guarantees that he can't fire Mueller going forward.

yes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.

Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.

Mueller will lay out his evidence to the public, as well as the House. The House won't impeach (R or D) without the public behind them.

Which will make the 2018 midterms about the Trump's impeachment - you want him impeached, vote for a Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump won't testify in person - maybe answer questions in writing.

If Mueller issues a subpoena he will likely invoke the 5th Amendment arguing that it is a witch hunt, etc and that his lawyer has advised him not to do so.

I'm starting to think you might be right about this. Trump has so far claimed he's happy to not only be interviewed, but even testify under oath! But we all know he's a liar, and he routinely flip-flops on everything he says, so his public claims mean nothing. Trump will make up a bunch of excuses and refuse to talk.

Anonymous wrote:Liberals will go nuts when that happens. Republicans and his supporters will be fine with it because the only downside is political damage and Trump has already laid the groundwork for why Mueller is biased, the FBI is corrupt, etc so the fallout among those whose opinions count, will not matter.

Liberal opinion and rants don't matter one iota to Trump and most Republicans. What matters is whether the conservative agenda is being implemented and that is happening in spades .... it is all that matters to Republicans.

Not only "liberals," but also all moderates and many Republicans will go nuts. Gutless wonders like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell will express "deep concern" without taking any position either way. What's going to be frustrating though is that even those Republicans who know Trump's doing a terrible thing will refuse to hold him accountable.

But ... there is a silver lining. It's pretty obvious at this point that Trump and others around him have committed crimes. Whether or not Trump himself testifies, there's a good chance Special Counsel Mueller will have enough evidence to bring more indictments, maybe even against Trump himself. So while Trump may be willing to accept the political heat and just general appearance of guilt and weakness that comes from pleading the 5th, that doesn't shield him from getting charged with crimes.

Mueller won’t seek an indictment of a sitting president. That battle would only result in legal proceedings and delay. He will lay out his evidence to the House for Articles of Impeachment.

Mueller will lay out his evidence to the public, as well as the House. The House won't impeach (R or D) without the public behind them.

Which will make the 2018 midterms about the Trump's impeachment - you want him impeached, vote for a Democrat.

I don't want him impeached. I want him to negotiate a quiet retirement with no charges. Charge others, fine. Have Trump step down peacefully, that's what I want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait Republicans. Trump says its all fake news! Veer right, deny deny deny!

It's becoming evident that whenever Trump says "fake news" that means the media is getting it right.

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