"Don't tread on me" license plate

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Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely keep my (polite) distance. They are telling you who they are - believe them. Yes, be polite; yes, smile and wave; yes, be there for them if there was an emergency but keep your distance from people like that.

And I agree - no matter what - do not let your children do over to their house. There will be firearms in that house. Most likely unsecured firearms.

Would you offer the same advice when the Muslim family moves in on the other side and the wife is wearing a hijab?

No, because I'm not a raging Islamaphobe, unlike you.

I'm actually a bleeding heart liberal, who's appalled at the hypocrisy on this thread.

You're appalled that so many people find nazis living next door to be..... appalling. The irony is sadly delicious

The term "Nazi" has become completely meaningless, thanks to numbskull liberals like yourself.

"Waaaaah waaaaah, people won't respect my garbage political views and intolerances. Waaah, waaaaaaah, waaaahhh, I'M THE VICTIM!"

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us have no problems with them

Because many of you are paid Russian trolls

Dream on and screw you. We're reasonable people who realize the ridiculousness of judging a neighbor by their license plate. You can't say you support peace and tolerance and liberal values, and then dismiss the family next door because you suspect you disagree with them politically. This whole thread disgusts me, and I only hope the op and her supporters are the Russians. Otherwise I really do fear for my country.

What assumptions do you make when you see a COEXIST bumper sticker on a car?

People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate.

I guess the aggressive drivers with "coexist" bumper stickers really aren't hypocritical at all then. And I guess I should assume all people with "coexist" stickers are actually raging hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a leap. It's not a hop. It's not even a step. It's standing still. Go look at any nazi white nationalist rally and you'll see dozens of those sick yellow flags in the crowd. Thru don't even attempt to hide it.

They are nazis. Period.

I noticed that they like to wear khakis too. Now I see Nazis all over DC. The Gap is openly supplying the Nazi uprising.

This is true! Frankly, all white people must be Nazis. Period!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a leap. It's not a hop. It's not even a step. It's standing still. Go look at any nazi white nationalist rally and you'll see dozens of those sick yellow flags in the crowd. Thru don't even attempt to hide it.

They are nazis. Period.

I noticed that they like to wear khakis too. Now I see Nazis all over DC. The Gap is openly supplying the Nazi uprising.

This is true! Frankly, all white people must be Nazis. Period!

You forgot to add "Sad!"

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

Nah, it's already a RWNJ symbol. As much as those who wave the Gadsen want to pretend it not and then act butthurt when you point out that its been a RWNJ symbol since 2009. Pretending that it's not a RWNJ symbol by bringing up the Marines or colonial history just makes you seem like a disingenuous jerk. It's basically stating "I respect you so little that I think you'll fall for my blatant lie."

No one opposed to Trump is adopting the Gadsen. Why? Because we all know that it's now a RWNJ symbol. Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely keep my (polite) distance. They are telling you who they are - believe them. Yes, be polite; yes, smile and wave; yes, be there for them if there was an emergency but keep your distance from people like that.

And I agree - no matter what - do not let your children do over to their house. There will be firearms in that house. Most likely unsecured firearms.

Would you offer the same advice when the Muslim family moves in on the other side and the wife is wearing a hijab?

No, because I'm not a raging Islamaphobe, unlike you.

I'm actually a bleeding heart liberal, who's appalled at the hypocrisy on this thread.

You're appalled that so many people find nazis living next door to be..... appalling. The irony is sadly delicious

The term "Nazi" has become completely meaningless, thanks to numbskull liberals like yourself.

Just to you honey, because you're trying hard not to see what you've become.

[Anonymous]

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

Nah, it's already a RWNJ symbol. As much as those who wave the Gadsen want to pretend it not and then act butthurt when you point out that its been a RWNJ symbol since 2009. Pretending that it's not a RWNJ symbol by bringing up the Marines or colonial history just makes you seem like a disingenuous jerk. It's basically stating "I respect you so little that I think you'll fall for my blatant lie."

No one opposed to Trump is adopting the Gadsen. Why? Because we all know that it's now a RWNJ symbol. Duh.

What's RWNJ? The Real HouseWives of New Jersey are into this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you dorks realize that 99% of people don't know what that license plate even means? Nobody except 5 loser nerds on DCUM cares!

You are kidding. I think most adults in the US can recognize that as a tea party thing. That is in fact why people use those license plates and flags, to be recognized as pro tea party.

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

Nah, it's already a RWNJ symbol. As much as those who wave the Gadsen want to pretend it not and then act butthurt when you point out that its been a RWNJ symbol since 2009. Pretending that it's not a RWNJ symbol by bringing up the Marines or colonial history just makes you seem like a disingenuous jerk. It's basically stating "I respect you so little that I think you'll fall for my blatant lie."

No one opposed to Trump is adopting the Gadsen. Why? Because we all know that it's now a RWNJ symbol. Duh.

What's RWNJ? The Real HouseWives of New Jersey are into this?

I am guessing its "right wing nut job" - based on the fact that PP is referring to what was a Tea Party symbol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of us have no problems with them

Because many of you are paid Russian trolls

Dream on and screw you. We're reasonable people who realize the ridiculousness of judging a neighbor by their license plate. You can't say you support peace and tolerance and liberal values, and then dismiss the family next door because you suspect you disagree with them politically. This whole thread disgusts me, and I only hope the op and her supporters are the Russians. Otherwise I really do fear for my country.

What assumptions do you make when you see a COEXIST bumper sticker on a car?

People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate.

I guess the aggressive drivers with "coexist" bumper stickers really aren't hypocritical at all then. And I guess I should assume all people with "coexist" stickers are actually raging hypocrites.

I assume all people with coexist bumper stickers want to proclaim their support for various forms of tolerance. Though they may be hypocritical, or terrible drivers.

I assume all people with Gadsden license plates are want to proclaim that they are Tea Party supporters, though they may be hypocritical or terrible drivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. Wow. This thread makes me so glad I got the hell out of DC. And for the non-crazy liberals on here (and I see there are a lot), this sort of insane vicious intolerance is what is destroying the Democratic coalition. When people believe the choice is between UMC assholes who believe a Don't Tread on Me license plate means you are a Nazi who should literally be shunned, and Donald Trump, well, some people will pick Trump. And the worst part is that this sort of nastiness only emboldens racists, but is almost exclusively perpetrated by whites. So white people like OP discredit liberalism by acting like flaming assholes, and minorities end up paying the price.

A dont tread on me license plate means you are either a tea party supporter, or someone who is too clueless to realize its a tea party symbol, or someone who doesnt care and effectively just likes to troll people.

also not sure what you mean by "a choice" Pretty sure none of the DCUM posters here were on the ballot in 2016, so that was not a choice. I doubt you have the chance to be a neighbor TO DJT either in Mar a Lago, at Trump Tower, or his other properties. The idea that voting for POTUS is somehow a choice vs your neighbors and their attitudes is one of the problems in this country.

Its why Dubya beat Al Gore - they think POTUS is "their friend" not an official who makes policy.

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

Nah, it's already a RWNJ symbol. As much as those who wave the Gadsen want to pretend it not and then act butthurt when you point out that its been a RWNJ symbol since 2009. Pretending that it's not a RWNJ symbol by bringing up the Marines or colonial history just makes you seem like a disingenuous jerk. It's basically stating "I respect you so little that I think you'll fall for my blatant lie."

No one opposed to Trump is adopting the Gadsen. Why? Because we all know that it's now a RWNJ symbol. Duh.

It's a historical anti-tyranny symbol. Do all liberals just ignore history?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a leap. It's not a hop. It's not even a step. It's standing still. Go look at any nazi white nationalist rally and you'll see dozens of those sick yellow flags in the crowd. Thru don't even attempt to hide it.

They are nazis. Period.

I find this so insulting.

Maybe stop feeling insulted for one minute and actually LISTEN to people. My Jewish wife has the same creepy feelings when she sees a bunch of jacked up white dudes waving the Gadsen as she does when she sees Confederatd flags in southern VA or rural MD. Especially when those people are at political rallies saying "Take our country back!"

I guarantee a solid one-third of this country is utterly repulsed by the Gadsen flag because of what it's become to those who intensely dislike "fake" Americans.

And I get a creepy feeling when I read the op and the people defending her.

Maybe if the folks waving the Gadsen gave up the politics of exclusion it would make people feel safer in their presence?

And yes, the introduction of the Gadsen license plate is 100% about capitalizing on Tea Party and exclusionary right wing politics. Why wasn't the Gadsen license plate introduced in 2001, after the September 11 attacks? Or maybe in 1991, after the fall of Communism?

It has zero to do with the Marines, the colonial era, or history. It's about exclusionary politics and tribalism. Gross.

You can't just declare its meaning and then reject people based on that. Are you 12?

Interesting that you have zero rebuttal to the facts I laid out.

Tell me:
"Take back our country" - from whom?
"Make America great again" - to when? Is it not great already?

The more you gaslight and pretend it doesn't mean what I claim, the more easily the rest of us see through your supremacist views. Stop bullsh#tting and feigning outrage.

Bwahahahaha. Sorry, lifelong liberal democrat, union supporting, child of immigrants, Medicare for all supporter here. I also have friends who in the military, work in law enforcement, teach at Catholic universities. I've been to gay weddings, supported a friend through an abortion and believe Planned Parenthood should be funded. And I send my kids to Catholic school. Political issues are complicated. People are complicated. They are multi-faceted. A license plate choice reflects something about a person's beliefs, but not everything. You learn about people and their beliefs by talking to them, not shunning them. You can't say you support tolerance for all, but not people you disagree with. And you are not the arbiter of the meaning of a license plate.

There's nothing to rebut in your argument because you're not making one. You're declaring something as a fact when it's not. Life is not black and white. Adults know that. 12 year olds do not.

Bravo, PP, bravo. Unbelievably well said.

+1. I don't like the other pp's brand of blind, kneejerk liberalism.

If people don't want to get called out on their bullsh#t, they should stop bullsh#tting. It's not that hard.

Again, for the 3rd time: why didn't "patriots" rally around the Gadsen after 9/11 or the fall of Commumism? Those were actually the perfec moments for that message. The more you keep ignoring, the more the rest of us know why you fly it. It's become a symbol of exclusion in its modern use. I don't need those kinds of neighbor's living next door to me.

Actually, I saw the flag it in the 90s. But I lived in a military community. It was not uncommon to see it on tshirts. This was long before the tea party existed.

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People express themselves in different ways. The Gadsen flag was a protest against tyranny. ACTUAL tyranny. So people who put it on their license plate during the Obama years are expressing that they compared Obama's presidency to tyranny. This is an explicit choice of hostile expression. One absolutely CAN take this at face value and it's not inconsistent with supporting peace, tolerance, and liberal values because the notion that Obama was tyranny is invalid on its face. This notion that somehow a liberal is being hypocritical for drawing conclusions about someone that are being telegraphed loudly and clearly is ludicrous. If you don't want to be judged, don't wear your damn politics on your sleeve -- or your license plate

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So... the people who put it on their license plate during the Trump years are expressing that they are comparing Trump's presidency to tyranny.

Nah, it's already a RWNJ symbol. As much as those who wave the Gadsen want to pretend it not and then act butthurt when you point out that its been a RWNJ symbol since 2009. Pretending that it's not a RWNJ symbol by bringing up the Marines or colonial history just makes you seem like a disingenuous jerk. It's basically stating "I respect you so little that I think you'll fall for my blatant lie."

No one opposed to Trump is adopting the Gadsen. Why? Because we all know that it's now a RWNJ symbol. Duh.

It's a historical anti-tyranny symbol. Do all liberals just ignore history?

By that logic, you were waving the Gadsen after the fall of the Berlin Wall and 9/11, right?

Oh, you actually didn't. Why did you wait until 2010 to bring out the Gadsen and get your yellow license plate in 2012?