Why do Republicans hate electric cars?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I get it. You are not a happy person, and your method to cope is to insult and make other people as unhappy as you. It’s transparent and pretty sad. I guess if that’s what you need to do to get through your day, that’s ok. The top post was opinion, contradicting the other opinions about affordability and cost which are all subjective. Pretending that you are more clever than strangers obviously gives you something you are lacking elsewhere.

I guess what I find sad about a lot of the posters on this site is that instead of talking about policy they have to personalize everything and make it about “liberals” versus “conservatives.” I don’t really care about whether I like a person promoting a policy or whether liberals are mean or conservatives are jerks. Does it make sense to subsidize electric cars? I think it does. You can disagree. Your level of vitriol says more about you than the topic at hand.

It does not make sense. We have private property rights in this country, whether you acknowledge them or not. That means, you don't generate a want out of this air and then reach into other people's pockets to fulfill that want.

People have a limited time on this planet. Some of that time is spent earning. Every "want" you have (and wish to impose on complete strangers at gunpoint...AKA the U.S. government) fulfilled by confiscating other worker's earnings is not legitimate.

Stop confiscating other's property because you want something. You are not owed. Get that thru your thick skull. Pay for the electric car 100% out of your own pocket and we'll have no problems.

Liberty and individual freedom is paramount above all else, and screw the collectivist mentality.

Your position is nonsense. Or, it’s so pure it has nothing to do with how our government actually runs. The government spends a lot trying to promote certain behaviors. Why do you get a tax break for getting a mortgage? Or putting money in your 401k?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It won't matter what stupid, short sighted Trump voters think in regard to fracking, coal and domestic oil production in general soon. Solid state batteries promise 3 times the energy capacity that currently powers most electric cars (ie range of over 400 miles), weather protection from -50 to 150 degrees, non-combustibility, non-corrosive leaching like with liquid batteries, and minutes or seconds of required charging rather than hours. https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Toyota has just noted they'll release a solid state battery car with two years, Volvo said their going all electric by 2019. We'll also start to see short trip autonomous electric driverless airplanes and cars soon. Basically, the writing is on the wall for oil. Of course you'll still see gas car for the next 20 years, but electric tech is ramping up so quickly every manufacturer wants a piece. You idiots who are all about drill baby drill just don't read enough. That's your problem. That and your support for an absolutely inept, toddler with a small hands complex.

That's when you get my buy-in. If I'm driving up to Cape Cod, for instance, I have no desire to spend hours at rest stops charging my car. Even at 15 minute charge per 200 miles now, there would have to be a hell of a large amount of charging stations. Even with no wait to charge, you are adding almost 3/4 hour to my trip, just to charge. I have a truck and can get up to the Cape by only filling the tank once along the way.

Eventually you will go to a charging station to swap your battery out for a charged one, not sit there and charge your car. That’s the model Tesla is working towards at least.

I've heard that but the question is, who's doing it? In NJ, you can't pump your own gas. As a result, the lines are always long at the rest areas and it takes over 1/2 hour in line to get gas, due to slow worker performance. In addition? I'm relying on an attendant to change my battery properly and get back onto the road? Not sure how comfortable I am with that.

Uh, ok? You obviously have reservations about a technology that hasn’t even appeared yet. Are you at a high level at one of these companies or something? Because the world is going to move on without your approval. You can buy gas cars for as long as they’re available.

My guess is you are mostly a city/burbs driver. Ever driven from LA to Phoenix where you are 90 miles between exits? How about through parts of Utah, New Mexico or Texas? Alaskan Highway drive? No so convenient to charge now.

[Anonymous]

I don't hate electric cars.


I hate libs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It won't matter what stupid, short sighted Trump voters think in regard to fracking, coal and domestic oil production in general soon. Solid state batteries promise 3 times the energy capacity that currently powers most electric cars (ie range of over 400 miles), weather protection from -50 to 150 degrees, non-combustibility, non-corrosive leaching like with liquid batteries, and minutes or seconds of required charging rather than hours. https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Toyota has just noted they'll release a solid state battery car with two years, Volvo said their going all electric by 2019. We'll also start to see short trip autonomous electric driverless airplanes and cars soon. Basically, the writing is on the wall for oil. Of course you'll still see gas car for the next 20 years, but electric tech is ramping up so quickly every manufacturer wants a piece. You idiots who are all about drill baby drill just don't read enough. That's your problem. That and your support for an absolutely inept, toddler with a small hands complex.

That's when you get my buy-in. If I'm driving up to Cape Cod, for instance, I have no desire to spend hours at rest stops charging my car. Even at 15 minute charge per 200 miles now, there would have to be a hell of a large amount of charging stations. Even with no wait to charge, you are adding almost 3/4 hour to my trip, just to charge. I have a truck and can get up to the Cape by only filling the tank once along the way.

Eventually you will go to a charging station to swap your battery out for a charged one, not sit there and charge your car. That’s the model Tesla is working towards at least.

I've heard that but the question is, who's doing it? In NJ, you can't pump your own gas. As a result, the lines are always long at the rest areas and it takes over 1/2 hour in line to get gas, due to slow worker performance. In addition? I'm relying on an attendant to change my battery properly and get back onto the road? Not sure how comfortable I am with that.

Uh, ok? You obviously have reservations about a technology that hasn’t even appeared yet. Are you at a high level at one of these companies or something? Because the world is going to move on without your approval. You can buy gas cars for as long as they’re available.

My guess is you are mostly a city/burbs driver. Ever driven from LA to Phoenix where you are 90 miles between exits? How about through parts of Utah, New Mexico or Texas? Alaskan Highway drive? No so convenient to charge now.

Obviously electric cars are not great for long trips. Most people do not have to drive more than 30 miles per day. I grew up in a rural area and we could reach all the places we needed within 40 miles. Which a car with a 240 mile range can handle. My husband actually works in several sites throughout Maryland and is able to take the electric car to all of them. It has saved us a lot in gas $$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It won't matter what stupid, short sighted Trump voters think in regard to fracking, coal and domestic oil production in general soon. Solid state batteries promise 3 times the energy capacity that currently powers most electric cars (ie range of over 400 miles), weather protection from -50 to 150 degrees, non-combustibility, non-corrosive leaching like with liquid batteries, and minutes or seconds of required charging rather than hours. https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Toyota has just noted they'll release a solid state battery car with two years, Volvo said their going all electric by 2019. We'll also start to see short trip autonomous electric driverless airplanes and cars soon. Basically, the writing is on the wall for oil. Of course you'll still see gas car for the next 20 years, but electric tech is ramping up so quickly every manufacturer wants a piece. You idiots who are all about drill baby drill just don't read enough. That's your problem. That and your support for an absolutely inept, toddler with a small hands complex.

That's when you get my buy-in. If I'm driving up to Cape Cod, for instance, I have no desire to spend hours at rest stops charging my car. Even at 15 minute charge per 200 miles now, there would have to be a hell of a large amount of charging stations. Even with no wait to charge, you are adding almost 3/4 hour to my trip, just to charge. I have a truck and can get up to the Cape by only filling the tank once along the way.

Eventually you will go to a charging station to swap your battery out for a charged one, not sit there and charge your car. That’s the model Tesla is working towards at least.

I've heard that but the question is, who's doing it? In NJ, you can't pump your own gas. As a result, the lines are always long at the rest areas and it takes over 1/2 hour in line to get gas, due to slow worker performance. In addition? I'm relying on an attendant to change my battery properly and get back onto the road? Not sure how comfortable I am with that.

Uh, ok? You obviously have reservations about a technology that hasn’t even appeared yet. Are you at a high level at one of these companies or something? Because the world is going to move on without your approval. You can buy gas cars for as long as they’re available.

My guess is you are mostly a city/burbs driver. Ever driven from LA to Phoenix where you are 90 miles between exits? How about through parts of Utah, New Mexico or Texas? Alaskan Highway drive? No so convenient to charge now.

Obviously electric cars are not great for long trips. Most people do not have to drive more than 30 miles per day. I grew up in a rural area and we could reach all the places we needed within 40 miles. Which a car with a 240 mile range can handle. My husband actually works in several sites throughout Maryland and is able to take the electric car to all of them. It has saved us a lot in gas $$$.

Though I bet he could have bought an older diesel VW and gotten 50+mpg, or a really old honda/geo and gotten in the 60's!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't hate electric cars.


I hate libs.

Yes, we know. That's pretty much the "logic" we've come to expect from the likes of you.

[Anonymous]

Its obvious.

Oil subsidies = good
Clean tech subsidies = bad

It's in the evangelical version of the Bible. In think Paul said it in Romans. But you have to read it backwards when you are high on opioids to see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It won't matter what stupid, short sighted Trump voters think in regard to fracking, coal and domestic oil production in general soon. Solid state batteries promise 3 times the energy capacity that currently powers most electric cars (ie range of over 400 miles), weather protection from -50 to 150 degrees, non-combustibility, non-corrosive leaching like with liquid batteries, and minutes or seconds of required charging rather than hours. https://news.utexas.edu/2017/02/28/goodenough-introduces-new-battery-technology

Toyota has just noted they'll release a solid state battery car with two years, Volvo said their going all electric by 2019. We'll also start to see short trip autonomous electric driverless airplanes and cars soon. Basically, the writing is on the wall for oil. Of course you'll still see gas car for the next 20 years, but electric tech is ramping up so quickly every manufacturer wants a piece. You idiots who are all about drill baby drill just don't read enough. That's your problem. That and your support for an absolutely inept, toddler with a small hands complex.

That's when you get my buy-in. If I'm driving up to Cape Cod, for instance, I have no desire to spend hours at rest stops charging my car. Even at 15 minute charge per 200 miles now, there would have to be a hell of a large amount of charging stations. Even with no wait to charge, you are adding almost 3/4 hour to my trip, just to charge. I have a truck and can get up to the Cape by only filling the tank once along the way.

Eventually you will go to a charging station to swap your battery out for a charged one, not sit there and charge your car. That’s the model Tesla is working towards at least.

I've heard that but the question is, who's doing it? In NJ, you can't pump your own gas. As a result, the lines are always long at the rest areas and it takes over 1/2 hour in line to get gas, due to slow worker performance. In addition? I'm relying on an attendant to change my battery properly and get back onto the road? Not sure how comfortable I am with that.

Uh, ok? You obviously have reservations about a technology that hasn’t even appeared yet. Are you at a high level at one of these companies or something? Because the world is going to move on without your approval. You can buy gas cars for as long as they’re available.

My guess is you are mostly a city/burbs driver. Ever driven from LA to Phoenix where you are 90 miles between exits? How about through parts of Utah, New Mexico or Texas? Alaskan Highway drive? No so convenient to charge now.

Do you think gas stations somehow predated the automobile, and no one ever had to take long distances between fuel stops into account for cross-country trips at the dawn of the automobile age?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I get it. You are not a happy person, and your method to cope is to insult and make other people as unhappy as you. It’s transparent and pretty sad. I guess if that’s what you need to do to get through your day, that’s ok. The top post was opinion, contradicting the other opinions about affordability and cost which are all subjective. Pretending that you are more clever than strangers obviously gives you something you are lacking elsewhere.

I guess what I find sad about a lot of the posters on this site is that instead of talking about policy they have to personalize everything and make it about “liberals” versus “conservatives.” I don’t really care about whether I like a person promoting a policy or whether liberals are mean or conservatives are jerks. Does it make sense to subsidize electric cars? I think it does. You can disagree. Your level of vitriol says more about you than the topic at hand.

It does not make sense. We have private property rights in this country, whether you acknowledge them or not. That means, you don't generate a want out of this air and then reach into other people's pockets to fulfill that want.

People have a limited time on this planet. Some of that time is spent earning. Every "want" you have (and wish to impose on complete strangers at gunpoint...AKA the U.S. government) fulfilled by confiscating other worker's earnings is not legitimate.

Stop confiscating other's property because you want something. You are not owed. Get that thru your thick skull. Pay for the electric car 100% out of your own pocket and we'll have no problems.

Liberty and individual freedom is paramount above all else, and screw the collectivist mentality.

HAHAHAHAHAHALOLOL!!!! Silly Momma's-Basement Libertarian! You keep stomping your feet and crying about your "private property rights" while enjoying the benefits of publicly-funded/subsidized roads, schools, law enforcement, fire protection, affordable dairy and produce, safe air travel, national defense, etc. etc. etc.

I swear, I will never understand why right wingers call us "Libtards." It's obvious the "L" in that insult should really refer to Libertarians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I get it. You are not a happy person, and your method to cope is to insult and make other people as unhappy as you. It’s transparent and pretty sad. I guess if that’s what you need to do to get through your day, that’s ok. The top post was opinion, contradicting the other opinions about affordability and cost which are all subjective. Pretending that you are more clever than strangers obviously gives you something you are lacking elsewhere.

I guess what I find sad about a lot of the posters on this site is that instead of talking about policy they have to personalize everything and make it about “liberals” versus “conservatives.” I don’t really care about whether I like a person promoting a policy or whether liberals are mean or conservatives are jerks. Does it make sense to subsidize electric cars? I think it does. You can disagree. Your level of vitriol says more about you than the topic at hand.

It does not make sense. We have private property rights in this country, whether you acknowledge them or not. That means, you don't generate a want out of this air and then reach into other people's pockets to fulfill that want.

People have a limited time on this planet. Some of that time is spent earning. Every "want" you have (and wish to impose on complete strangers at gunpoint...AKA the U.S. government) fulfilled by confiscating other worker's earnings is not legitimate.

Stop confiscating other's property because you want something. You are not owed. Get that thru your thick skull. Pay for the electric car 100% out of your own pocket and we'll have no problems.

Liberty and individual freedom is paramount above all else, and screw the collectivist mentality.

Your position is nonsense. Or, it’s so pure it has nothing to do with how our government actually runs. The government spends a lot trying to promote certain behaviors. Why do you get a tax break for getting a mortgage? Or putting money in your 401k?

No, your position is nonsense. The goobermint was never meant to promote certain behaviors outside of what is constitutionally mandated. The government should be small and stay the hell out of our lives except for what is specified in here:

http://constitutionus.com/

[Anonymous]

Why do the 'tarians even use those socialist roads? Don't they understand the goobermint wants them to???

Drive on the sidewalk, ponyboy. All the way from Utah to Nevada. Where there are no sidewalks... There's your freedom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a different electric vehicle driver but I thought I'd translate your Republican post into language we can all understand. Admittedly, I just skimmed most of your screeds, because you kept going on and on about "you liberals" like a demented grandfather... But here is what I think you said:

"You liberals don't understand anything! And now you're being mean to me because that's what you liberals do. You don't know anything and are mean! I'm just here telling you that and you keep being mean to me!! Whyyyyyy??"

Do you want a cupcake?

Solid gold of a post - first you admit a lack of understanding of the discussion, then admit to not really reading it, and then based upon that lack of understanding and not even the effort to read, you then proceed to call me a demented grandfather and misrepresent what was actually said. Solid gold illustration of the liberal thought process - you don't know, you don't care enough to learn, but you have a strong opinion about it, exactly like I described previously.

No, I understoodnthe discussion quite well. Unlike you, I know quite a bit about electric cars. I just don't understand your place in it, sad lib-tarian troll-man, who is STILL whining like a fractious infant because... Wah, electric cars are heavy, and even though you've only driven the one Tesla, you're an expert, here to mansplain to us fragile women, just how wrong we are.

Don't you have a mission to get to? Some wives to abuse? I feel like, it's Saturday night. You should be busier.

[Anonymous]

And so, with the sad baby-man troll strapped back into his plastic toy Camaro, does anyone have any questions about electric cars? Buying vs leasing? Battery degredatiin? What to look for in a used Leaf?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I get it. You are not a happy person, and your method to cope is to insult and make other people as unhappy as you. It’s transparent and pretty sad. I guess if that’s what you need to do to get through your day, that’s ok. The top post was opinion, contradicting the other opinions about affordability and cost which are all subjective. Pretending that you are more clever than strangers obviously gives you something you are lacking elsewhere.

I guess what I find sad about a lot of the posters on this site is that instead of talking about policy they have to personalize everything and make it about “liberals” versus “conservatives.” I don’t really care about whether I like a person promoting a policy or whether liberals are mean or conservatives are jerks. Does it make sense to subsidize electric cars? I think it does. You can disagree. Your level of vitriol says more about you than the topic at hand.

It does not make sense. We have private property rights in this country, whether you acknowledge them or not. That means, you don't generate a want out of this air and then reach into other people's pockets to fulfill that want.

People have a limited time on this planet. Some of that time is spent earning. Every "want" you have (and wish to impose on complete strangers at gunpoint...AKA the U.S. government) fulfilled by confiscating other worker's earnings is not legitimate.

Stop confiscating other's property because you want something. You are not owed. Get that thru your thick skull. Pay for the electric car 100% out of your own pocket and we'll have no problems.

Liberty and individual freedom is paramount above all else, and screw the collectivist mentality.

Your position is nonsense. Or, it’s so pure it has nothing to do with how our government actually runs. The government spends a lot trying to promote certain behaviors. Why do you get a tax break for getting a mortgage? Or putting money in your 401k?

No, your position is nonsense. The goobermint was never meant to promote certain behaviors outside of what is constitutionally mandated. The government should be small and stay the hell out of our lives except for what is specified in here:

http://constitutionus.com/

Yep, those drugs you take have been reviewed carefully and are monitored carefully by the Feds. That clean water you drink is subject to Federal and state health and environmental standards. Those cars you drive are far safer due to Federal auto standards. That hospital you may visit every so often is heavily subsidized by the Feds and, depending on where it is, would not exists absent the Feds. Those airports you use would not exist without the Feds in terms of cash and safety standards.

You may debate to what extent the law and tax incentives should be used to encourage or discourage behavior. But, since your behaviors (such as owning guns and smoking) affect my health, I have the right to complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ok, I get it. You are not a happy person, and your method to cope is to insult and make other people as unhappy as you. It’s transparent and pretty sad. I guess if that’s what you need to do to get through your day, that’s ok. The top post was opinion, contradicting the other opinions about affordability and cost which are all subjective. Pretending that you are more clever than strangers obviously gives you something you are lacking elsewhere.

I guess what I find sad about a lot of the posters on this site is that instead of talking about policy they have to personalize everything and make it about “liberals” versus “conservatives.” I don’t really care about whether I like a person promoting a policy or whether liberals are mean or conservatives are jerks. Does it make sense to subsidize electric cars? I think it does. You can disagree. Your level of vitriol says more about you than the topic at hand.

It does not make sense. We have private property rights in this country, whether you acknowledge them or not. That means, you don't generate a want out of this air and then reach into other people's pockets to fulfill that want.

People have a limited time on this planet. Some of that time is spent earning. Every "want" you have (and wish to impose on complete strangers at gunpoint...AKA the U.S. government) fulfilled by confiscating other worker's earnings is not legitimate.

Stop confiscating other's property because you want something. You are not owed. Get that thru your thick skull. Pay for the electric car 100% out of your own pocket and we'll have no problems.

Liberty and individual freedom is paramount above all else, and screw the collectivist mentality.

Your position is nonsense. Or, it’s so pure it has nothing to do with how our government actually runs. The government spends a lot trying to promote certain behaviors. Why do you get a tax break for getting a mortgage? Or putting money in your 401k?

No, your position is nonsense. The goobermint was never meant to promote certain behaviors outside of what is constitutionally mandated. The government should be small and stay the hell out of our lives except for what is specified in here:

http://constitutionus.com/

Yep, those drugs you take have been reviewed carefully and are monitored carefully by the Feds. That clean water you drink is subject to Federal and state health and environmental standards. Those cars you drive are far safer due to Federal auto standards. That hospital you may visit every so often is heavily subsidized by the Feds and, depending on where it is, would not exists absent the Feds. Those airports you use would not exist without the Feds in terms of cash and safety standards.

You may debate to what extent the law and tax incentives should be used to encourage or discourage behavior. But, since your behaviors (such as owning guns and smoking) affect my health, I have the right to complain.