Are DII and DIII sports a big scam to get parents to

[Anonymous]

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Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

College scorecard:
Wheaton-IL average annual cost: $24k
Salary after attending: $42k

Illinois-UC average annual cost: $18k
Salary after attending: $56k

Letting your kids live out their athletic dreams is quite costly! And Wheaton is actually a decent school - it's the tier 4 colleges I see travel sports parents bragging about most frequently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:without d3 sports, my asian siblings who are 2150-2250 sat, top 5% public school kids don't get into A,W,S schools.

What about all the Asian students that DON'T have the athletic hook? think about it.

Which is why when Asian parents ask me or my parents how to navigate the college process that sandbags asians, I tell them to make sure their kids are ballin like Jeremy Lin.

Until more asians get politically involved and agitate for change, This is the best info I can provide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

College scorecard:
Wheaton-IL average annual cost: $24k
Salary after attending: $42k

Illinois-UC average annual cost: $18k
Salary after attending: $56k

Letting your kids live out their athletic dreams is quite costly! And Wheaton is actually a decent school - it's the tier 4 colleges I see travel sports parents bragging about most frequently.

Have you thought about how some parents CAN afford it and not care what YOU think? Sucks when that happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

I agree that it indulgent that we can worry more about happiness than money.

Due to our UMC income we know that our kids can go to Podunk and still get a great job and have a great life, they can focus on people, relationships and health... over college rankings, all nighters, making connections and getting the best internship. It is this imbalance that allows mediocre student excel in the workplace.

Hilarious. Surveys, four-year graduation rates, loan default rates, and college scoreboard data which uses federal tax returns proves your glossy narrative is bullshit.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

That is not what your link says.

My kids will be fine no matter where they go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

College scorecard:
Wheaton-IL average annual cost: $24k
Salary after attending: $42k

Illinois-UC average annual cost: $18k
Salary after attending: $56k

Letting your kids live out their athletic dreams is quite costly! And Wheaton is actually a decent school - it's the tier 4 colleges I see travel sports parents bragging about most frequently.

I live in a W district and I sent my kids to Catholic school.

It pisses people off that I am willing to spend my money the way I want to spend it.

Raising my kids the way I want is "costly" and I love that every decision is not a cost benefit analysis with money being the driving factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

College scorecard:
Wheaton-IL average annual cost: $24k
Salary after attending: $42k

Illinois-UC average annual cost: $18k
Salary after attending: $56k

Letting your kids live out their athletic dreams is quite costly! And Wheaton is actually a decent school - it's the tier 4 colleges I see travel sports parents bragging about most frequently.

So you see your kids as a spreadsheet? And tally the "cost" of their hobbies and such and give them the bill at age 18? No one wants to hear your self-righteous parenting philosophy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

College scorecard:
Wheaton-IL average annual cost: $24k
Salary after attending: $42k

Illinois-UC average annual cost: $18k
Salary after attending: $56k

Letting your kids live out their athletic dreams is quite costly! And Wheaton is actually a decent school - it's the tier 4 colleges I see travel sports parents bragging about most frequently.

So you see your kids as a spreadsheet? And tally the "cost" of their hobbies and such and give them the bill at age 18? No one wants to hear your self-righteous parenting philosophy.

Tier four? How many tiers have you created in your head? You definitely need a new hobby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:without d3 sports, my asian siblings who are 2150-2250 sat, top 5% public school kids don't get into A,W,S schools.

What about all the Asian students that DON'T have the athletic hook? think about it.

Which is why when Asian parents ask me or my parents how to navigate the college process that sandbags asians, I tell them to make sure their kids are ballin like Jeremy Lin.

Until more asians get politically involved and agitate for change, This is the best info I can provide

Well the problem is that they focus too much on URM students which is just a diversion. I'm AA and after taking tours this month I realized that URM students don't even come close to being a threat. All the gaming that goes on around admissions (athletics, legacy, etc.) is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

It's not much different than most Division I athletes honestly. I was a recruited athlete at a Division I school and it's no big deal. We didn't draw huge crowds and most of the people on the team were full pay. Unless you're at a top school for your sport you might as well be at a D2 or D3 school. Take Georgetown for example. If you play basketball it's intense and a big deal. Most other sports, not so much. We competed against Georgetown and my college was similar so I know this to be the case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not much different than most Division I athletes honestly. I was a recruited athlete at a Division I school and it's no big deal. We didn't draw huge crowds and most of the people on the team were full pay. Unless you're at a top school for your sport you might as well be at a D2 or D3 school. Take Georgetown for example. If you play basketball it's intense and a big deal. Most other sports, not so much. We competed against Georgetown and my college was similar so I know this to be the case.

I would agree. Super selective college or big time d1 or can be great. Outside of that, rather foolish pursuit.

[Anonymous]

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Tier four? How many tiers have you created in your head? You definitely need a new hobby.

"...low-prestige colleges, referred to as Tier 4 (nearly 60 percent of bachelor’s degrees come from such schools)."

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2473238

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Tier four? How many tiers have you created in your head? You definitely need a new hobby.

"...low-prestige colleges, referred to as Tier 4 (nearly 60 percent of bachelor’s degrees come from such schools)."

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2473238

That's the best you can do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:without d3 sports, my asian siblings who are 2150-2250 sat, top 5% public school kids don't get into A,W,S schools.

What about all the Asian students that DON'T have the athletic hook? think about it.

Which is why when Asian parents ask me or my parents how to navigate the college process that sandbags asians, I tell them to make sure their kids are ballin like Jeremy Lin.

Until more asians get politically involved and agitate for change, This is the best info I can provide

Well the problem is that they focus too much on URM students which is just a diversion. I'm AA and after taking tours this month I realized that URM students don't even come close to being a threat. All the gaming that goes on around admissions (athletics, legacy, etc.) is disgusting.

+1. I have been saying this in almost every thread on the topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Almost nobody at the no name D3's as you call them is paying full cost. They may not give sports scholarships, but they give plenty of "merit" money.

Okay, so instead of $30K-65K you're talking $20K-55K ... so your child can pretend to be an accomplished athlete?

Seems the ones putting D'3 down are a little upset they or their kids were turned down lol. No they don't get scholarships for sports but there's alot of scholarships they can apply for. My son is a college player and all he pays for tuition is 3000 thankfully because of all the scholarships he applied for and earned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Almost nobody at the no name D3's as you call them is paying full cost. They may not give sports scholarships, but they give plenty of "merit" money.

Okay, so instead of $30K-65K you're talking $20K-55K ... so your child can pretend to be an accomplished athlete?

Seems the ones putting D'3 down are a little upset they or their kids were turned down lol. No they don't get scholarships for sports but there's alot of scholarships they can apply for. My son is a college player and all he pays for tuition is 3000 thankfully because of all the scholarships he applied for and earned.

Have you been thinking of a reply for 6 years? Wish DCUM would just automatically delete threads after say 2 years.