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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

Wow, congrats - you can make fun of someone's career, too! You are so cool!

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I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

Selling levitra? You should be buying it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

I agree that it indulgent that we can worry more about happiness than money.

Due to our UMC income we know that our kids can go to Podunk and still get a great job and have a great life, they can focus on people, relationships and health... over college rankings, all nighters, making connections and getting the best internship. It is this imbalance that allows mediocre student excel in the workplace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

I agree that it indulgent that we can worry more about happiness than money.

Due to our UMC income we know that our kids can go to Podunk and still get a great job and have a great life, they can focus on people, relationships and health... over college rankings, all nighters, making connections and getting the best internship. It is this imbalance that allows mediocre student excel in the workplace.

Hilarious. Surveys, four-year graduation rates, loan default rates, and college scoreboard data which uses federal tax returns proves your glossy narrative is bullshit.

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

A law partner that doesn't know what an anecdote is? Or just a naive boomer. Podunk College grads don't get into T14 law schools and rarely go onto medical school unless they have a heavy hook (foster kid, military vet, minority).

Podunk Colleges aren't full of 90- 99-percentile kids, they're just above average smarts middle to upper middle income kids costing their parents a fortune so they can play sports for a few more years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

You've just made my point. If a talented athlete who is also very intelligent goes to a tippy top school, jerks like you will still say they only got there because the kid could hit a ball. It's never good enough for you because deep down you are insecure and hate anyone else who is happy. Have a great life.

[Anonymous]

Some folks never get over being picked last.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some folks never get over being picked last.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A friend's son was heavily recruited by an Ivy (well, more than just the Ivy, but that's the relevant part) at a very young age (pre-freshman), and the kid and the parents decided that, academically, the Ivy would be too much for this child to handle and chose to verbally commit to a Big 10 school, which is well-known, but definitely not an academic powerhouse. I was surprised at first, and impressed upon further reflection. They are not choosing the sport over the school, but they know what the child is capable of, academically, and are somewhat setting up for success, rather than failure - and not just buying into a school for the prestigious name.

That was a really stupid decision.

Why? The kid sounds like he isn't that intelligent, but great at sports. Why would they send him to a HYP type of place where he will be surrounded by brilliant minds and people unlike him instead of like a Michigan State type place where he can do really well in his sport AND not be at the complete bottom of his class and struggling to keep up? It's not like this kid is going to go on to further academic pursuits or be any sort of rocket scientist. And it's not like they sent him to Podunk. Any of the big 10 schools are *okay* academically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

A law partner that doesn't know what an anecdote is? Or just a naive boomer. Podunk College grads don't get into T14 law schools and rarely go onto medical school unless they have a heavy hook (foster kid, military vet, minority).

Podunk Colleges aren't full of 90- 99-percentile kids, they're just above average smarts middle to upper middle income kids costing their parents a fortune so they can play sports for a few more years.

My BIL (Caucasian, and absolutely zero hooks) went to a VA in state undergrad that is consistently put down on this thread. Not only did he go to a top medical school, he's a very successful MD, living the good life with several homes overlooking the ocean. So there goes your alternative facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

A law partner that doesn't know what an anecdote is? Or just a naive boomer. Podunk College grads don't get into T14 law schools and rarely go onto medical school unless they have a heavy hook (foster kid, military vet, minority).

Podunk Colleges aren't full of 90- 99-percentile kids, they're just above average smarts middle to upper middle income kids costing their parents a fortune so they can play sports for a few more years.

The class of 2019 at Harvard came from 188 different undergraduate programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you are overestimating how far an undergraduate degree will take you these days. It really isn't worth all that much even if you go to an elite school. By way of example, I went to a middling college but killed it on the LSAT and had good enough grades to get into a top tier law school. I am now a partner at an Amlaw 100 firm. Wouldn't have mattered if I went to Harvard or University of Scranton undergrad. By your rationale I should be selling levitra. Instead, I just think you are an a$$.

A law partner that doesn't know what an anecdote is? Or just a naive boomer. Podunk College grads don't get into T14 law schools and rarely go onto medical school unless they have a heavy hook (foster kid, military vet, minority).

Podunk Colleges aren't full of 90- 99-percentile kids, they're just above average smarts middle to upper middle income kids costing their parents a fortune so they can play sports for a few more years.

The class of 2019 at Harvard came from 188 different undergraduate programs.

Here is the Yale list. https://law.yale.edu/admissions/profiles-statistics/entering-class-profile

Arizona State, University of Mississippi, University of Maryland, Wheaton College (this is your sweet spot); Bryn Mawr College, University of Alabama, University of West Georgia and the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so funny. The athlete hate is so apparent, regardless of school prestige. Many athletes are actually very intelligent (with the grades and scores to boot) AND athletically gifted. Kills some folks to see these talented kids.

Nobody's "hating" on your kid playing lacrosse or soccer at Podunk College. I feel sorry for parents who let their kids make such an indulgent and short-sighted decision. I know, I know "so and so played at Podunk College and is the top sales rep for medical supplies in their territory."

You've just made my point. If a talented athlete who is also very intelligent goes to a tippy top school, jerks like you will still say they only got there because the kid could hit a ball. It's never good enough for you because deep down you are insecure and hate anyone else who is happy. Have a great life.

Welcome to the world of African American and Latino students at tippy top schools!

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It's so hard to get into college. You better believe I'm telling my above average students to excel in a sport. They are probably in the top 1% of athletes but can dream on about being in the top 1% of academics. I just want them to have the best opportunities they can have relative to their talents. Sports is a way to get there.