Governors all across the country are refusing to take Syrian refugees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK fine. we decide we can't take in refugees because we can't adequately screen them.

But I don't want to hear any more about us being a "Christina nation". Rejecting refugees is *not* what Jesus would do.

We have to decide to be OK with that. That we are going to be selfish, self interested, preemptively defend ourselves.... not Christlike.

Don't be hypocrites. Be honest. We are not truly Christian. We are selectively Christian. Cafeteria Christian.

I am agnostic. No refugees. We have enough shit going on. You are more than welcome to house and feed them at your home. You know, like Jesus would do.

Agree
And don't trot out the Christian line when it's convenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saudia Arabia, UAE etc. have not taken a SINGLE refugee?

Yup, we are suckers.

Even bigger suckers, I guess: Turkey--absorbed refugees equal to 3 percent of its population; Jordan--10 percent, Lebanon--25 percent.

[Anonymous]

Seems as if 8 Syrian “refugees” have entered Europe with the same papers found on one of the suicide bombers in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322960/The-Syrian-passports-terror-EIGHT-migrants-got-Europe-papers-stadium-suicide-bomber.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK fine. we decide we can't take in refugees because we can't adequately screen them.

But I don't want to hear any more about us being a "Christina nation". Rejecting refugees is *not* what Jesus would do.

We have to decide to be OK with that. That we are going to be selfish, self interested, preemptively defend ourselves.... not Christlike.

Don't be hypocrites. Be honest. We are not truly Christian. We are selectively Christian. Cafeteria Christian.

I am agnostic. No refugees. We have enough shit going on. You are more than welcome to house and feed them at your home. You know, like Jesus would do.

I am the poster you are talking to. Raised Christian (so I know the faith) but now agnostic.
having Kreshs
What I am saying is that i don't want to hear from supposed conservative christians that Christianity is our reason for (whatever). I don't want to hear about traditional marriage or abortion or having Nativity scenes at the town hall or any of the other nonsense that gets spouted about how we are a Christian country and we need to respect and enforce those values. Because if we turn away desperate refugees, we are NOT a Christian nation.

We don't walk the walk. And that's fine. But stop the hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saudia Arabia, UAE etc. have not taken a SINGLE refugee?

Yup, we are suckers.

Even bigger suckers, I guess: Turkey--absorbed refugees equal to 3 percent of its population; Jordan--10 percent, Lebanon--25 percent.

What kind of benefits will Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon offer the refugees vs what they will receive in the U.S.? The number of people coming here may be significantly less but I guarantee the costs associated with them will be equivalent or higher to any of the countries you list above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems as if 8 Syrian “refugees” have entered Europe with the same papers found on one of the suicide bombers in Europe.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322960/The-Syrian-passports-terror-EIGHT-migrants-got-Europe-papers-stadium-suicide-bomber.html

I wouldn't worry. I'm sure that the U.S. has a much more robust vetting process using low paid government workers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saudia Arabia, UAE etc. have not taken a SINGLE refugee?

Yup, we are suckers.

Even bigger suckers, I guess: Turkey--absorbed refugees equal to 3 percent of its population; Jordan--10 percent, Lebanon--25 percent.

What kind of benefits will Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon offer the refugees vs what they will receive in the U.S.? The number of people coming here may be significantly less but I guarantee the costs associated with them will be equivalent or higher to any of the countries you list above.

"About 2.2 million Syrian refugees who have taken shelter in Turkey to escape the ongoing civil war in Syria are suffering from significant problems in terms of the necessities of daily life, the lack of medical services and poor working conditions, as well as negative perceptions about them in Turkish society, and they demand that the Turkish authorities improve their conditions."

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_22-mln-syrian-refugees-in-turkey-struggling-demand-better-living-conditions_404561.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much misinformation in addition to bigotry and racism

1) The Tsarnaev brothers were not refugees, they were the children of two asylees. They were home grown.

2) "vetting process" for refugees exists, and is very effective, none of the 750k refugees admitted since 9/11 has committed a terror attack

3) our immigration process is fee based. Uscis gets very little appropriated money and it's basically all for the everify system. They will not get a free or immediate ride to citizenship

Apart from all that, immigrants are the hardest working population in America. These people won't be on the government dime, that would be lazy Americans who don't want to work a menial job.

All of these "valid" reasons for wanting to keep thsee refugees out are just either blatant ignorance or racism people don't want to admit to.


"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Really? Because Obama's people beg to differ:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/federal-eye/wp/2015/11/17/senior-obama-officials-have-warned-of-challenges-in-screening-refugees-from-syria/

Sounds to me like a bunch of political appointees who don't work at uscis and have no experience with screening refugees, something we have been doing very effectively for decades. But sure listen to a talking point instead of a fact

Well, let's hope the screening process is better than the TSA.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tsa-fails-identify-73-employees-terror-watch-lists-n371601

[Anonymous]

Look, if people want to trot out the line of "we have enough of our own problems to deal with" as an excuse then I expect you to actually pick up, join in and start dealing with our problems, not just hold it up as an excuse and then drop it again the moment people are no longer talking about Syrian refugees.

You don't get to use it as an excuse if you aren't actually dealing with it. That's disingenuous and dishonest.

[Anonymous]

"About 2.2 million Syrian refugees who have taken shelter in Turkey to escape the ongoing civil war in Syria are suffering from significant problems in terms of the necessities of daily life, the lack of medical services and poor working conditions, as well as negative perceptions about them in Turkish society, and they demand that the Turkish authorities improve their conditions."

http://www.todayszaman.com/national_22-mln-syrian-refugees-in-turkey-struggling-demand-better-living-conditions_404561.html


VA politician of Lebanese decent :
http://www.dailypress.com/news/politics/dp-nws-refugees-20151116-story.html

And a new peeve of mine is the visa waiver program. These pervs could come over here on a tourist trip. These daesh have awakened sleeping giants who have pride in real military history-Russia, France, Turkey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look, if people want to trot out the line of "we have enough of our own problems to deal with" as an excuse then I expect you to actually pick up, join in and start dealing with our problems, not just hold it up as an excuse and then drop it again the moment people are no longer talking about Syrian refugees.

You don't get to use it as an excuse if you aren't actually dealing with it. That's disingenuous and dishonest.

I am dealing with it in the form of significant taxes and a 19 trillion dollar deficit being passed to my children.

[Anonymous]

The federal government will not inform the governors about who they are locating in their states - no background information, no information about the refugees.
I cannot blame them for not wanting them to settle in their states.
These governors are responsible to the people who live in their states.
Why does the federal government not provide any information????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saudia Arabia, UAE etc. have not taken a SINGLE refugee?

Yup, we are suckers.

Even bigger suckers, I guess: Turkey--absorbed refugees equal to 3 percent of its population; Jordan--10 percent, Lebanon--25 percent.

What kind of benefits will Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon offer the refugees vs what they will receive in the U.S.? The number of people coming here may be significantly less but I guarantee the costs associated with them will be equivalent or higher to any of the countries you list above.

Costs per refugee will be higher because standard of living is higher in the US. But the refugees' ability to enter the workforce and earn wages high enough to pay taxes is far greater here than in those countries where the unemployment rates are much higher.

But what is it to you--charitable organizations will be picking up most of the costs anyway.

[Anonymous]

What are these governors doing to ensure that suspected terrorists in their own states aren't able to buy guns legally? I wish Chris Christie would talk more about that and less about the threats posed by 3 year-old orphans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are these governors doing to ensure that suspected terrorists in their own states aren't able to buy guns legally? I wish Chris Christie would talk more about that and less about the threats posed by 3 year-old orphans.

The problem is not want the refugees will do today or tomorrow but the concern for me is that they will become radicalized down the road, as they have done so in Belgium, France, and Germany. Belgium has the most nationals fighting Isis of any European country. The parents are fine but the kids are easily radicalized and this is a problem down the road. Statistically this is very likely to happen.