'Fess up...if you sell for mlm companies, give us the dirt

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Anonymous wrote:10k per month is still six figures per year...

So one can make six figures per year...before paying six figures per year in product and other staff (what are the nurses for?)?

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Anonymous wrote:I dont do MLM sales but I am a pharm rep which I feel is an equally hated and looked down upon industry. I make good money (not great; around 200k a yr but work about 34 hours a week so good life balance) but I feel like people constantly want to tell me Im sales scum and they can't stand my industry. So I kinda feel for MLM people and Im sure *some* do make decent money.

In what universe is making 200K a year not great? AND you only work 34 hours a week? You must be taking some of the drugs you are selling...

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Agreed and that's not what I was doing at all. I should've just said over 10K/month. Very few make 100K+/month, like top 20 people. They are the million dollar circle achievers and there aren't many, of course. I still think 10K+/month, working from home, on your own schedule, etc. and when and where you want is awesome. I hope to get to that level and quit my 9-5 job and I think I can. I'm not there yet, but I'm also not losing all of my money, etc. I'm making around $2500/month, in addition to my full-time job. I think that's excellent for a side venture.

I'm confused...first you said you made over 10K/month, then you said you made 2500/month. Which one is it?

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Agreed and that's not what I was doing at all. I should've just said over 10K/month. Very few make 100K+/month, like top 20 people. They are the million dollar circle achievers and there aren't many, of course. I still think 10K+/month, working from home, on your own schedule, etc. and when and where you want is awesome. I hope to get to that level and quit my 9-5 job and I think I can. I'm not there yet, but I'm also not losing all of my money, etc. I'm making around $2500/month, in addition to my full-time job. I think that's excellent for a side venture.

I'm confused...first you said you made over 10K/month, then you said you made 2500/month. Which one is it?

Not to defend someone who has clearly drunk gallons of the Kool aid, but I think she said her upline makes that money.

As a former retail employee in the cosmetics field - a real one, not one conducted out of my trunk - I'm curious what her training is. Since she's so convinced that she's better informed than the average counter employee.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Proactive (a great product) is sold in stores like Target, but the other R+F products are all sold via pyramid scheme?

because the saturated the market with Proactive via infomercial then in stores so they needed to expand their product line and infomercials are no longer in vogue.

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The work entails helping people that reach out to you for help, being very good at following up with them and truly helping them with their issues with their skin. It's being honest and true about your own results and sharing them with people and it is about reaching out and letting people know you are doing this, but def. not harassing anyone. People who do that, don't work the business correctly. This particular company has a full 60-day return policy, so I don't feel badly having my friends try the products. If they don't work, no problem, send them back. Just like any sales job, this is making a sale, except it's to your own network. Like I said, you have to be a normal human being and act like yourself. I don't do the scripts and I don't harass my friends, that doesn't work, clearly

Ok, so question for you here. Do you not realize/feel guilty about charging your friends $200 for skin creme that is probably worth $10 just so that all of the people up the pyramid get their cut?? I just don't know how you could do that to your friends?

No, absolutely not. One cream is never $200, first of all, it's about $140-$190 for a full 4-piece skincare regimen, which lasts 60-90 days/minimum. Completely in line with Clinique, Estee Lauder, etc. I buy it myself at consultant discount, which is 25% off, so I pay for it just like everyone else and I like it. I used to buy one eye cream for $100 from Estee Lauder at Nordstrom's, it was way more expensive and I think the ingredients in the products I use and sell are better and more effective. They doctors are same ones that created Proactiv, so they are not just some sales people selling random skincare. They actually formulated these products and tested them through clinical trials. Of course, there are people who try the products and don't love them or decide they want to try something else, so they return them for a full refund within 60 days even if they've used them up. You can't do that at any retail store if they have been opened. I see myself as a wholesaler really. Company gets a cut, I get a cut, and yes, the cost is passed down to consumer, just like in any other retail business. I'm also there and provide great customer service. I manage customer accounts, make sure they're getting right products that work for them, follow up with them, delay and move up their orders, etc. I do a lot of customer care work just like any good store would. If you buy something at the store, that's it. Your transaction is done. I'm always there for my customers and take pride in them being happy bc as you pointed out they are my friends and family.

ok, so $190 top end and I said $200. Big difference.

I just bought Clinique Redness moisturizer for $46. Soothe is $160 I think.

But you see - company gets a cut, you get a cut, but you also are giving cuts all the way up the pyramid. How do you not see that? How do you not see that you are ripping off your friends and family? You are not a skin care professional?!

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Can we talk about the new round about way of sellign this shit now? I have friends who claim they are NOT doing MLM stuff, they just tell me they are "distributors" to get the discount. Advocare and Do Terra- "no pressure, just let me know if you want to me to order you something with my discount"--ugh. Same things, only now I don't even get the free wine at the shitty parties.

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Anonymous wrote:I know a lady who was one of the top ten sellers for Stella & Dot a few years ago. This woman is gorgeous, bubby, worked her ass off, did parties every weekend, knew tons of people, etc. Definitely one of the few who you'd expect would be making the big bucks, and her FB statuses also gave that impression. She quit abruptly because apparently S&D changed the commission structure and screwed a lot of people at the top, including her. Another of my friends was considering signing up, so I asked the former rep what she thought about it. Former rep told me flat-out that no matter how hard you work at S&D, you will NEVER make more than $2-$3k per month. It's just not possible, given the commission structure and the amount of jewelry the reps have to buy, etc. Plus, the amount of hours she was putting in were absolutely insane. She probably did 2-3 shows every weekend, which is way more than most reps would ever be able to book. I don't know about anyone else, but if I needed an extra $2-3k per month, I'd work at Starbucks or something before I'd go into MLM, but whatever. I have no idea how much she netted overall, but I'm guessing it wasn't a particularly impressive figure.

There's no way you can make $2-3k per month at Starbucks, even if you worked there full-time.

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Anyone have any dirt on Primerica?

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Yes, you're absolutely right, but I mean actual net income. The woman who I'm directly under has a total team volume of over 500K every month. She's got almost 1,000 under her and you make a cut off everyone's sales. BC we write everything off dealing with business expenses, taxes haven't been too bad, but yes we are all paying our own taxes.

Fortunately, the tax on a business loss comes out to zero dollars.

After taxes and everything, I netted $15K last year. My initial $1K investment went a long way, I think.

How much time did it take and how many friends did you lose along the way?

One year, none.

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I didn't say 6 figures, I said 6 digits, so yes, many make 10-30K/month.

The vast majority of people in MLMs make six digits a month: $00.0000

That may be true. I don't know. All I know is my own team and their experience with one company

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What about Le-vel thrive? Any one here selling that?

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Anonymous wrote:Cutco is the worst of all. Being the mom of a recent highschool grad, all my sons friends are selling cutco. It is such a scam on these poor kids and their parents' friends!

Yep.

On neighbor kid got me. But I do love that pizza cutter.

My parents are the only people who bought Cutco knives from my brother when he sold them as a high schooler nearly 20 years ago...but they're still using some of those knives!

My mom used to give Cutco knives as wedding presents. They are awesome.

They are! I know the owner's son and got a free set, but I totally prefer them to Henckel knives etc. And they are not MLM -- you can buy them direct online if you want and there's no "multi-level," just direct sales.

Still wouldn't do that either though..

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Agreed and that's not what I was doing at all. I should've just said over 10K/month. Very few make 100K+/month, like top 20 people. They are the million dollar circle achievers and there aren't many, of course. I still think 10K+/month, working from home, on your own schedule, etc. and when and where you want is awesome. I hope to get to that level and quit my 9-5 job and I think I can. I'm not there yet, but I'm also not losing all of my money, etc. I'm making around $2500/month, in addition to my full-time job. I think that's excellent for a side venture.

I'm confused...first you said you made over 10K/month, then you said you made 2500/month. Which one is it?

If you read previous pages, I said, there are people on my team that make 10K+, specifically the women who brought me on, but right now, I'm at a few thousand/month, last month, $2500.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know a lady who was one of the top ten sellers for Stella & Dot a few years ago. This woman is gorgeous, bubby, worked her ass off, did parties every weekend, knew tons of people, etc. Definitely one of the few who you'd expect would be making the big bucks, and her FB statuses also gave that impression. She quit abruptly because apparently S&D changed the commission structure and screwed a lot of people at the top, including her. Another of my friends was considering signing up, so I asked the former rep what she thought about it. Former rep told me flat-out that no matter how hard you work at S&D, you will NEVER make more than $2-$3k per month. It's just not possible, given the commission structure and the amount of jewelry the reps have to buy, etc. Plus, the amount of hours she was putting in were absolutely insane. She probably did 2-3 shows every weekend, which is way more than most reps would ever be able to book. I don't know about anyone else, but if I needed an extra $2-3k per month, I'd work at Starbucks or something before I'd go into MLM, but whatever. I have no idea how much she netted overall, but I'm guessing it wasn't a particularly impressive figure.

There's no way you can make $2-3k per month at Starbucks, even if you worked there full-time.

parties are a turn off