Ellie Clougherty and Joe Lonsdale

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I think it comes down to this - he was wrong but she was wronger.

OK pp made a point that I had missed which is, they had a relationship prior to the mentoring. So what did he do wrong? Want to be closer to her with the opportunity to mentor her group? Please. This is mom pissed off she didn't get the connections she "asked for" and manipulated her daughter. Ellie is clearly a week individual.

and could benefit from some good therapy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, I think it comes down to this - he was wrong but she was wronger.

OK pp made a point that I had missed which is, they had a relationship prior to the mentoring. So what did he do wrong? Want to be closer to her with the opportunity to mentor her group? Please. This is mom pissed off she didn't get the connections she "asked for" and manipulated her daughter. Ellie is clearly a week individual.

He was wrong in that:
1. He should not have inserted himself into the mentoring. He pushed that and it was clearly improper.
2. He clearly chose to ignore her immaturity and unstable nature. She's beautiful and he thought he was getting a lovely piece of arm candy who also had a brain - but he was at best a fool to stick with it once the crazy showed up.

But like I said, she (and by that i mean her entire side, including her mother) was wronger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Random question that has been popping into my head everytime I read about these two: how do you pronounce Clougherty (Ellie's last name)? Is it CLOCK-er-ty or more like CLOH-er-ty? Or even CLOF-er-ty?

I've met the parents socially, and I believe it was more like CLOH-er-ty or CLOW-er-ty. Definitely not the first or third pronunciation.

[Anonymous]

That article was painfully boring to read and way too long. She sounds like a spoiled princess who used this guy/relationship to make sense of herself during a crisis period. Also the age difference is not a problem at all, and it's ridiculous trying to portray this it as some old creepy guy taking advantage of an innocent teen.

[Anonymous]

And the mom probably reads this forum. so Hi there Anne, yes you went too far with your helicoptering!

[Anonymous]

Mother is bat-shit crazy and unable to recognize how her manipulations have destroyed her daughter's ability to have normal and healthy relationships. Also, i think the "therapist" should be investigated. The description in the article of his therapy techniques is more than questionable!

Seriously, it pisses me off when people throw around accusations of rape. It puts the women who are truly raped (either in a dorm room or back alley…) on the defensive and it makes their credibility come into question. There is a serious and difficult problem with rape in society and when manipulative people like this mother use it for their own gain it diminishes the seriousness of the issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My parents were ten years apart and met when my mother was 21. They were married for 45 years before my mother died. Difference is, the first time my father took her out, my grandmother took down his license plate and told him she'd call the police if he was even 5 minutes late getting her home.

In this case, the mother was clearly pushing the relationship on her beautiful, screwed-up daughter. The mother is the one who ought to be banned for Stanford, and maybe the crackpot therapist too.

That's still creepy for a 31 yo man to be dating a 21 yo woman.

I dated someone who was 12 years older than me when I was starting my senior year at Stanford. It was a wonderful, emotionally and intellectually rewarding relationship, far better than any I'd had with undergrads I'd dated (some of whom I found desperately immature--I was always an old soul). We were together for three years and probably would be married now, were it not for the fact that he knew he didn't want kids and I was pretty sure I did. Leaving for grad school on the East Coast helped me get over him. We parted amicably.
If I had to do it again I'd bypass all the undergrads and date only older men to begin with.

M

Maybe the fact that he was 12 years older could have made him less eager to have kids? Age difference mean something there? Three years seems like a long time to find that out.

[Anonymous]

Damn. I was hoping there was an update to this.

[Anonymous]

Nobody is weird in this case. Nobody messed up in the head. This was a normal breakup--he was not an "older man," she was not a "neurotic guilt-ridden Catholic." It has caught interest becasue feminists look for and find vicitmhood everywhere and anywhere they can. Give it a rest!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Damn. I was hoping there was an update to this.[/quote

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody is weird in this case. Nobody messed up in the head. This was a normal breakup--he was not an "older man," she was not a "neurotic guilt-ridden Catholic." It has caught interest becasue feminists look for and find vicitmhood everywhere and anywhere they can. Give it a rest!

Yes, she was. Her letter about her eating disorder hospitalization time was beyond bizarre. Her turning on him after saving sex was bizarre. Her claiming numerous other boyfriends abused here as bizarre.

[Anonymous]

She dismissed her lawsuit: http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/elise-clougherty-joe-joseph-lonsdale-rape-lawsuit-claim-charge-stanford-net-worth-formation-8-linkedin/

[Anonymous]

I can tell you from first hand experience that I know all these characters involved dealing with them on a financial transaction a couple years ago. Joe was very straightforward and a pleasure to deal with. I also spent numerous occasions with his parents from the east bay and they were impressive. Joe didn't grow up with a silver spoon near by just plenty of family love and support. When I first meet Ellie and her Mother for the first time I new something was wrong with this triangle. The Mother took over the conversation and started inserting herself in the transaction. The daughter could not stop talking about how great her relationship was with Lonsdale. The two of them were overbearing to be with and complicated the transaction until Lonsdale came back into the picture. I thought it was odd that the Mother was the mentor and spokesperson for the daughter with Lonsdale. He was being so accommodating and patient with the both of them at all times, much more than I would have been with the same situation. Now I see what the Mother and Daughter were up to and that was control of Ionsdale through an impending marriage that I heard about on several occasions. Lonsdale dodged a bullet by dumping this team shortly after our transaction closed,He learned a tough lession on this one but will certainly put it past him going forward.

[Anonymous]

This was incredibly sad. As a survivor who has been drawn to older men, I know that it is so tempting to just hand over your body and soul to someone who seems willing and able to care so tenderly for you and help you achieve your dreams. You never even see how dangerous that can be. At the same time, I know as a damaged young woman I sent many mixed signals to men I dated.