Hardy IB Population

[Anonymous]

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How did they get rid of the pre-2010 faculty with the "old DC" attitude? Are they all gone ?

In 2011 I was told by a Hardy teacher, to my face and quite forcefully, that as an in-boundary parent I had no right to try and change the direction of the school. That teacher is still listed on the staff directory at:
http://www.hardyms.org/apps/staff/

It doesn't matter. DCPS teachers know where their bread is buttered. If and when Hardy becomes majority-IB, teachers will fall over themselves to keep their bloated gravy-train salaries flowing. They know they're not employable for anything remotely close to the same salary if they get kicked off the train.

2011 is ancient history. If you haven't been in the school or had any Hardy-related experience since 2011, your opinion isn't worth anything - the school has changed a lot. That's why Principal Pride and the Hardy PTO and interested parents from IB schools are practically begging other parents to actually come look at the school and not focus on old rumors.

[Anonymous]

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Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

Nobody is suggesting any of those things. You've followed each other down a rabbit hole of confusion, bad information, and misunderstandings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

Nobody is suggesting any of those things. You've followed each other down a rabbit hole of confusion, bad information, and misunderstandings.

Not either of PPs, but if you read the other lengthy hardy thread you'll see accusations of racism whenever anyone says they want hardy to be more of a neighborhood school, meaning, more kids from the neighborhood (higher IB %). There is clearly a lot of baggage here, so I think you're being unfair to say someone has gone alice in wonderland in simply pointing it out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

Nobody is suggesting any of those things. You've followed each other down a rabbit hole of confusion, bad information, and misunderstandings.

Not either of PPs, but if you read the other lengthy hardy thread you'll see accusations of racism whenever anyone says they want hardy to be more of a neighborhood school, meaning, more kids from the neighborhood (higher IB %). There is clearly a lot of baggage here, so I think you're being unfair to say someone has gone alice in wonderland in simply pointing it out.

And here is a 2010 article to prove this point. It's long, and has a lot of discussion about Hardy. It may be that much has changed in 4 years, but based on this article it would be fair to use the phrase "racial flashpoint" to describe Hardy in 2010.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

With all due respect, you don't seem very connected to the realities of DC politics. During the Pope era and its immediate aftermath the in-boundary families were routinely portrayed as the second coming of the Mississippi Citizens Council and the Pope supporters were the Freedom Riders. On this very internet forum it was fashionable a couple of years ago to portray the in-boundary families as primarily motivated by racism.

Check out this Jonetta Rose Barras article:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jonetta-rose-barras-fighting-mad-in-georgetown/article/19676

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

With all due respect, you don't seem very connected to the realities of DC politics. During the Pope era and its immediate aftermath the in-boundary families were routinely portrayed as the second coming of the Mississippi Citizens Council and the Pope supporters were the Freedom Riders. On this very internet forum it was fashionable a couple of years ago to portray the in-boundary families as primarily motivated by racism.

Check out this Jonetta Rose Barras article:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jonetta-rose-barras-fighting-mad-in-georgetown/article/19676

It's still fashionable today!

I forgot to post the link above to the 2010 article I mentioned

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/39647/michelle-rhees-campaign-to-diversify-dc-public-schools-means-wooing/full/

[Anonymous]

Move on people. The bottom line is that next year Hardy will be mostly feeder or Brent. After that it will be more desirable than Deal bc of size, IB demographics. Why are you loons hashing and rehashing ancient history?

Anyone who watched Hyde turn into a desirable IB school will understand that this is exactly what is happening at Hardy NOW.

[Anonymous]

Who are the trolls who keep taking over the Hardy threads? Go away. Those of us who have kids approaching middle school don't give a damn about Marion Barry era politics. We are interested in the current forward momentum!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move on people. The bottom line is that next year Hardy will be mostly feeder or Brent. After that it will be more desirable than Deal bc of size, IB demographics. Why are you loons hashing and rehashing ancient history?

Anyone who watched Hyde turn into a desirable IB school will understand that this is exactly what is happening at Hardy NOW.

Aaaand there is that claim again that the "IB demographics"'of glover park, palisades, burleith and Cleveland park are "more desirable than" the kids who live in Chevy Chase, AU park, sheperd park and friendship heights. Really, now?

(And since i believe you are the same person who trots out the "2 million condo" in [the Four seasons only] in Georgetown fact, let's note that the number of teenagers living in condos in Georgetown -- ever -- is tiny. The number of teenagers living in 2 million homes in geogertown or Wesley heights and whose parents even consider dcps middle school is infinitesimal.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Ward 3 kids are basically interchangeable in terms of competence. Hardy has better scale than Deal's college campus. Main difference, that.

The main difference is that Hardy has a 40 year history of being a racial flashpoint. Everything else pales in comparison.

If this is true, then this is reason enough to start a new WOTP MS, free of segregation-era baggage. But is it true?

Ridiculous. It's not like the neighborhood is seeking to convert a Martin Luther King, Jr. memorial into a statue of Colonel Sanders. It's a public school, for pete's sake, in a neighborhood, with neighborhood kids who are interested in going there. To assert that local residents should be sensitive to a certain racial group's alleged stamp on this public property can only be the product of a mind that is completely disconnected from the way the world we live in actually works.

But not how the crazy world of DC works....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move on people. The bottom line is that next year Hardy will be mostly feeder or Brent. After that it will be more desirable than Deal bc of size, IB demographics. Why are you loons hashing and rehashing ancient history?

Anyone who watched Hyde turn into a desirable IB school will understand that this is exactly what is happening at Hardy NOW.

Aaaand there is that claim again that the "IB demographics"'of glover park, palisades, burleith and Cleveland park are "more desirable than" the kids who live in Chevy Chase, AU park, sheperd park and friendship heights. Really, now?

(And since i believe you are the same person who trots out the "2 million condo" in [the Four seasons only] in Georgetown fact, let's note that the number of teenagers living in condos in Georgetown -- ever -- is tiny. The number of teenagers living in 2 million homes in geogertown or Wesley heights and whose parents even consider dcps middle school is infinitesimal.)

Nobody said that. You mis-read the post. Stop making stuff up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who are the trolls who keep taking over the Hardy threads? Go away. Those of us who have kids approaching middle school don't give a damn about Marion Barry era politics. We are interested in the current forward momentum!

Great - so what are this year's IB stats, which the principal won't release? Why do most families within Hardy's cachement area avoid the school?

[Anonymous]

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You "followed the school closely"? Can you clarify if you did or did not actually cross the threshold and enter the building?

You are right about the teachers circa-2010. But wrong about the teachers now. Some may be set in their ways, but that's cause they are old school teachers - not because of some big Hardy thing. At any rate, they are now on board with Principal Pride.

You are lying - flat out lying - about the alumni and long-time Washingtonians. I was a Hardy parents, was very active on the PTA, and was very close to the teachers and Princiapl at the time. No such outside group of alumni and long-time Washingtonians that had any interest or influence on the school.

Please stop this "old Hardy guard" canard.

Please don't call me a liar. Tell me, then, why was Yvette Alexander at the PTA meeting in 2009, spewing racial rhetoric? Why did Vincent Gray -- a long-time Washingtonian if there ever was one -- make Hardy an issue when he beat Fenty? In Richard Whitmire's book "The Bee Eater," which is generally effusive in its praise of Rhee, he makes the claim that the handling of Hardy cost Fenty the 2010 election. How could one school with a few hundred students tip an election in a city of over a half-million residents? Because it stands for something bigger.

I am not a Hardy parent and will most likely never be a Hardy parent, but I can tell you that my desire to oust Fenty had nothing to do with Hardy. Maybe you should think about the myriad of other reasons DC voters had against a Fenty second term. Everything was not about Hardy. For instance, there are a lot more schools in DC than Hardy.