Hardy IB Population

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One difference in curriculum is language. Hardy seems to offer only Spanish and Italian, while Deal offers French, Spanish and Chinese. Why Italian? Is there any thought to offering Chinese now that Eaton, where Chinese is taught, is scheduled to feed in? It seems unfortunate that Eaton kids would have to wait three years until they get to Wilson to resume their Chinese studies. They will be very far behind their peers who go to Deal.

Some Hardy kids go on to Ellington where Italian is offered (often taken by vocal majors) so maybe that's why.

No, Italian is offered inside Hardy, not at Ellington.[/quot

I meant it is offered at Ellington as well as Hardy so a student could continue on to Italian IV at Ellington after Hardy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is it hostile to give a number of IB which is a specific category being asked about especially when the Primcipal's goal was to increase IB numbers, not feeder numbers?

It is amazing that the Principal's own goal as clearly laid out last year was to increase IB. Asking if she met goal is just good follow up.

But if you followed the other thread you would know that the feeder numbers were typical and can deduce on your own that the IB numbers are low also. There was no huge jump in either number.

Based on the other thread, there is info on IB numbers and they did increase significantly from previous years. Of course that number will be published at some point and people can discuss it then.

That's because the Hardy admin gooses the IB numbers with feeder students, ignoring the fact that some feeders like Hyde are almost exclusively OOB. So it's so surprise that those kids go on to Hardy. The real question is why so many IB families have decided that Hardy is so second rate that they will pull their kids out of DCPS rather than send them there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eaton parents will really end up liking Hard in the end I bet.

Unless they can afford private school or win the Latin lottery, they're really stuck between a rock and a Hard place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is it hostile to give a number of IB which is a specific category being asked about especially when the Primcipal's goal was to increase IB numbers, not feeder numbers?

It is amazing that the Principal's own goal as clearly laid out last year was to increase IB. Asking if she met goal is just good follow up.

But if you followed the other thread you would know that the feeder numbers were typical and can deduce on your own that the IB numbers are low also. There was no huge jump in either number.

Based on the other thread, there is info on IB numbers and they did increase significantly from previous years. Of course that number will be published at some point and people can discuss it then.

That's because the Hardy admin gooses the IB numbers with feeder students, ignoring the fact that some feeders like Hyde are almost exclusively OOB. So it's so surprise that those kids go on to Hardy. The real question is why so many IB families have decided that Hardy is so second rate that they will pull their kids out of DCPS rather than send them there.

Buried in that long thread are actual IB numbers for some of the feeder schools, and the numbers are indeed up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is it hostile to give a number of IB which is a specific category being asked about especially when the Primcipal's goal was to increase IB numbers, not feeder numbers?

It is amazing that the Principal's own goal as clearly laid out last year was to increase IB. Asking if she met goal is just good follow up.

But if you followed the other thread you would know that the feeder numbers were typical and can deduce on your own that the IB numbers are low also. There was no huge jump in either number.

Based on the other thread, there is info on IB numbers and they did increase significantly from previous years. Of course that number will be published at some point and people can discuss it then.

All will be revealed when you have a right to know. Until then, move along. Nothing to see here, folks.

[Anonymous]

Nice job DCUM0-ers - you managed to turn this thread into a proxy war for the boundary changes, regenerate a useless fight over who is or not an IB student, and turn it into a long discussion of Hardy's Chinese classes, all without addressing the question.

To answer - the numbers from Principal Pride seem to indicate that approximately 40 students from feeder schools are in Hardy's sixth grade. This is a significant increase from previous years - about twice as many as last year.

Some parents don't think this is a relevant measure. They think they more relevant measure is how many of those students live in the Hardy boundary instead of how many attended feeder schools. As best I can tell, these parents think that students who do not live in close proximity to them are not worthy of attending school with their students, regardless of how well-prepared and exceptional they are. At any rate, this number is not available - though anecdotal evidence also indicates that it is up significantly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nice job DCUM0-ers - you managed to turn this thread into a proxy war for the boundary changes, regenerate a useless fight over who is or not an IB student, and turn it into a long discussion of Hardy's Chinese classes, all without addressing the question.

To answer - the numbers from Principal Pride seem to indicate that approximately 40 students from feeder schools are in Hardy's sixth grade. This is a significant increase from previous years - about twice as many as last year.

Some parents don't think this is a relevant measure. They think they more relevant measure is how many of those students live in the Hardy boundary instead of how many attended feeder schools. As best I can tell, these parents think that students who do not live in close proximity to them are not worthy of attending school with their students, regardless of how well-prepared and exceptional they are. At any rate, this number is not available - though anecdotal evidence also indicates that it is up significantly.

I think both numbers are worthy of consideration, but I am particularly interested in the IB number. It was 11 percent last year. Does anyone know?

[Anonymous]

If the OOB kids from feeders go and like it, maybe eventually the IB kids will go.

[Anonymous]

40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

[Anonymous]

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To answer - the numbers from Principal Pride seem to indicate that approximately 40 students from feeder schools are in Hardy's sixth grade. This is a significant increase from previous years - about twice as many as last year.

Since the number was never before publicly released -- in prior years only the IB number was given -- how do you know that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

This statement is false.

First, as an IB Hardy parent, I know pretty well how many IB (feeder and non-feeder) kids are at Hardy. There are many more in the 6th grade than in previous classes. 40 represents a big increase.

Second, this distinction between IB and feeder is only in your head. Pride held 50 non-lottery seats to be filled by feeder kids. Regardless of whether they are IB or non-IB feeder, kids from the feeder schools don't have to enter the lottery. Pride could not make the distinction even if she wanted to.

Third, if this question is eating you up so much, go ask Principal Pride. I assure you, she's not wasting her time reading DCUM, so stop pretending like her not answering your dumb anonymous question on this board is some kind of scandal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

This statement is false.

First, as an IB Hardy parent, I know pretty well how many IB (feeder and non-feeder) kids are at Hardy. There are many more in the 6th grade than in previous classes. 40 represents a big increase.

Second, this distinction between IB and feeder is only in your head. Pride held 50 non-lottery seats to be filled by feeder kids. Regardless of whether they are IB or non-IB feeder, kids from the feeder schools don't have to enter the lottery. Pride could not make the distinction even if she wanted to.

Third, if this question is eating you up so much, go ask Principal Pride. I assure you, she's not wasting her time reading DCUM, so stop pretending like her not answering your dumb anonymous question on this board is some kind of scandal.

Hear, Hear.

Great response. I also hope the previous poster[s] will crawl back under their bridge[s].

--IB Mann

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

False. Pride cannot hold spots for IB. She can only hold spots (i.e. do not open them to lottery) for feeder school students. She went pretty close to her estimated number (about 44 kids give or take). She's a smart and experienced principal, she would not do such gross moves and mistakes, and she is extremely careful to carry respect respect to the current and prospective cohort of OB families from feeder schools. OB kids from feeder schools are her students, and more will become her students next year. To present them as lower-rated students would be unprofessional and would lead to a wave of discontent and protests from these parents. Note that a number of OB parents, and OB parents from feeder schools, are active PTO members, they are in close contact with the Principal and are vigilant on the process.

If you are truly interested in the school, and will attend the forthcoming open houses and ask questions in this sense, you will notice that issue of OB feeders versus "pure IBs" is tackled with careful language by the school administrators, for the above reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:40 feeder kids isn't a huge increase from last year. Hyde and Stoddert have always sent a good number of kids. Stoddert is becoming more IB but the older grades still has a out of OOB as does Hyde.

Pride was holding 50 spots for IB. Not feeder but IB. Missed it by a mile which is sad.

WHO CARES???? you are clearly looking for way to justify your reason for NOT choosing Hardy. Please leave us out of it. And why do so many on this thread believe that the only kids worth attracting are those who live in the actual boundary? Are you really implying that anyone outside of your zip code is substandard?

What is that all about?

[Anonymous]

Why are IB children so special that everyone needs their numbers? How about how many children tested into the more rigorous courses? Isn't the issue really how strong your child's peers will be rather than where they live in the city?