CFPB attorney

[Anonymous]

Yikes. I guess I should be glad that my mediocre application was tossed in the bin. For the folks working there — are y’all going to stay, or nah?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. I guess I should be glad that my mediocre application was tossed in the bin. For the folks working there — are y’all going to stay, or nah?

PP

I’ve been at CFPB long enough. It’s a revolving door. Most go to firms or banks in order to cash in. Few that I’ve seen go on to other agencies. I would love to move back to the South and work for the SEC. But, they are mostly hiring internally.

Are you truly interested in CFPBs mission, or do you just want a new position? What’s your goal, and why do you view your application as “mediocre?” If I can offer any advice, ask away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yikes. I guess I should be glad that my mediocre application was tossed in the bin. For the folks working there — are y’all going to stay, or nah?

PP

I’ve been at CFPB long enough. It’s a revolving door. Most go to firms or banks in order to cash in. Few that I’ve seen go on to other agencies. I would love to move back to the South and work for the SEC. But, they are mostly hiring internally.

Are you truly interested in CFPBs mission, or do you just want a new position? What’s your goal, and why do you view your application as “mediocre?” If I can offer any advice, ask away.

PP here — I jokingly said my application was mediocre because of another PP who said that the quality of recent applications was poor. I know that my credentials are great, but I was not chosen for an interview. (Application has been in “reviewed” status for months). I was truly interested, but given the prior comments, I’m now taking that rejection as a blessing in disguise.

[Anonymous]

It is true. Sex for promotions is happening. And when you don't "put out" you don't get promoted and you get shuffled off on a detail. Soon you are then "gone" for some unknown reason. The incompetence is astounding too; at all levels. Pretentiousness and cronyism is rampant. It's who you know, not what you know. Salaries are a black-box. Every time you get promoted, your salary is re-evaluated against others who are at your grade level. Tons of lawsuits. The Congressional testimony that was given in the past is accurate. Staff is afraid to come forward for fear of retaliation. These folks have limited to no skills so they are not able to make it in the job market. All the Fed attorneys that came over to cfpb have gone back (at least 95% if not higher). Ask them why. Also, I hesitate to mention names. So sad that the place is so toxic and in record time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“There’s lots of sex in return for promotions, which goes beyond what I’ve seen in other workplaces. It’s crazy.“

OMG!! Yes!!! We must know each other, because not many of us put that information out there. But there’s a lot of sex taking place over there from sleeping for a promotion to affairs that get people blackmailed to just everyday gross harassment.

What offices?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is true. Sex for promotions is happening. And when you don't "put out" you don't get promoted and you get shuffled off on a detail. Soon you are then "gone" for some unknown reason. The incompetence is astounding too; at all levels. Pretentiousness and cronyism is rampant. It's who you know, not what you know. Salaries are a black-box. Every time you get promoted, your salary is re-evaluated against others who are at your grade level. Tons of lawsuits. The Congressional testimony that was given in the past is accurate. Staff is afraid to come forward for fear of retaliation. These folks have limited to no skills so they are not able to make it in the job market. All the Fed attorneys that came over to cfpb have gone back (at least 95% if not higher). Ask them why. Also, I hesitate to mention names. So sad that the place is so toxic and in record time.

Yes! This is 100% accurate. It’s like the place is filled with sex addicted people. It’s happening everywhere. Lots of married “straight” men sleeping with other men in the agency. Lots of women in power soliciting favors in return for promotions. I think a lot of the men in power interested in women are very cautious because of the sexual harassment risk. So it’s primarily men with other men and women in power with men. And power doesn’t mean being a supervisor, it also means influential 52/53s that know how to work the social circles and can make things happen for people they like. I think that a lot of folks don’t know about it, but amongst those in the know, this is common behavior. I’ve worked at other agencies and the private sector. Never encountered this level of quid pro quo sex behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is true. Sex for promotions is happening. And when you don't "put out" you don't get promoted and you get shuffled off on a detail. Soon you are then "gone" for some unknown reason. The incompetence is astounding too; at all levels. Pretentiousness and cronyism is rampant. It's who you know, not what you know. Salaries are a black-box. Every time you get promoted, your salary is re-evaluated against others who are at your grade level. Tons of lawsuits. The Congressional testimony that was given in the past is accurate. Staff is afraid to come forward for fear of retaliation. These folks have limited to no skills so they are not able to make it in the job market. All the Fed attorneys that came over to cfpb have gone back (at least 95% if not higher). Ask them why. Also, I hesitate to mention names. So sad that the place is so toxic and in record time.

Yes! This is 100% accurate. It’s like the place is filled with sex addicted people. It’s happening everywhere. Lots of married “straight” men sleeping with other men in the agency. Lots of women in power soliciting favors in return for promotions. I think a lot of the men in power interested in women are very cautious because of the sexual harassment risk. So it’s primarily men with other men and women in power with men. And power doesn’t mean being a supervisor, it also means influential 52/53s that know how to work the social circles and can make things happen for people they like. I think that a lot of folks don’t know about it, but amongst those in the know, this is common behavior. I’ve worked at other agencies and the private sector. Never encountered this level of quid pro quo sex behavior.

Well, that's gross, but also sounds more interesting than my banking agency with average employee age being 67.

[Anonymous]

I posted earlier (page 9) about all the sex, but didn't know it was all men with men and women harassing men. From my experience, it was mostly married people having affairs, with those who traveled a lot sleeping with much younger women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier (page 9) about all the sex, but didn't know it was all men with men and women harassing men. From my experience, it was mostly married people having affairs, with those who traveled a lot sleeping with much younger women.

There might be a racial component to this that I’m leaving out. The same sex behavior is largely with the black men, with some white men also getting in on the action. I’m an attorney, but mostly have worked outside of SEFL at HQ where it’s more diverse. I’m also black, so maybe I’m aware of things that my non-black coworkers aren’t. The female managers of all ethnic backgrounds I’ve witnessed/heard also engage in this behavior. The married couples don’t surprise me at all, and it definitely makes sense that older men/younger women traveling would be doing this. But, I personally haven’t seen or heard much about those types of happenings. It’s a “younger agency,” most/many people got in through favoritism and personal connections. It’s so sad that the agency has turned out this way. But I do have faith that it will be reformed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone gotten an interview lately? Anyone’s application status change on USA jobs? I also applied and have heard nothing.

For the job that closed earlier this month, my status changed a week or two ago to "Reviewed." Haven't heard anything otherwise.

I’ve been curious about this too. I haven’t heard anything about the positions they posted, and the only status update has been a change from received to reviewed.

FWIW, I'm the PP you quoted, and my status is still the same. "Reviewed" on USAJobs and still haven't heard anything.

CFPB Attorney here.

Do you know anyone on the inside PP? It’s extremely difficult to get into the CFPB as an attorney unless you have an inside connect, meet a diversity need, or have a degree from a top program with a “pedigreed” background.

Not to discourage anyone that’s posted so far, but CFPB is perhaps one of the most elitist agencies in the federal government (honestly for no good reason m). The senior staff at the agency want the same level of respect that their SEC, OCC, DOJ, and FRB peers get. Many (if not most) are arrogant, self-important, and pretentious. Think, limousine liberals and frat-boy/d-bag Republican types. They want to create an appearance of prestige, in order to justify the agency’s existence. We do very interesting work, but it’s not like you need an Ivy League background or even law firm experience to do much of the work that we do here. But, this is pretty who is hired.

Also, for anyone that is from a minority background, good luck when it comes to promotions. For an agency created under our first black president, and conceived by a champion for women and minority rights, it’s a shame that CFPB is such a cesspool of racism, sexism, and bigotry. Just as of this week, the union began evaluating the salaries/grade levels of women and minority employees, because it’s beyond obvious that the highest grade levels are clustered in the white male demographic. This could go to mediation or even congress if these issues are as widespread and systemic as many employees think. I like many of my coworkers and believe in our mission (which is why I have stayed), but the “good ol boy” network is strong. Which is why most attorneys leave after 1-2 years.

Hmm. I don't work at CFPB but my spouse does and all their bosses that I am aware of have been either female or minority. I haven't asked but I highly suspect my spouse would disagree with this.

Well, I worked at the CFPB for a long time, and I agree 100% with PP. The sexism, ageism, and discrimination is rampant.

What does "I worked at the CFPB for a long time" mean? If you worked at the CFPB on the very first day it was established, and were still working there today, it'd only be 6 years.

[Anonymous]

This sex at the CFPB is so over-the-top obvious fan fiction.

[Anonymous]

I am pretty floored to read the quid pro quo sex stuff on this thread! I have been an attorney at the CFPB for almost 5 years and am totally unaware of sex for promotions or other forms of favors/influence that is described in some of these emails. Is anyone willing to share in what shop this is happening? It is virtually impossible for me to imagine it happening in Regulations (where I work), FWIW. But things could obviously be very different in different parts of the Bureau. Disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am pretty floored to read the quid pro quo sex stuff on this thread! I have been an attorney at the CFPB for almost 5 years and am totally unaware of sex for promotions or other forms of favors/influence that is described in some of these emails. Is anyone willing to share in what shop this is happening? It is virtually impossible for me to imagine it happening in Regulations (where I work), FWIW. But things could obviously be very different in different parts of the Bureau. Disturbing.

It's anonymous people making things up on the internet. I wouldn't put too much credence in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am pretty floored to read the quid pro quo sex stuff on this thread! I have been an attorney at the CFPB for almost 5 years and am totally unaware of sex for promotions or other forms of favors/influence that is described in some of these emails. Is anyone willing to share in what shop this is happening? It is virtually impossible for me to imagine it happening in Regulations (where I work), FWIW. But things could obviously be very different in different parts of the Bureau. Disturbing.

It's anonymous people making things up on the internet. I wouldn't put too much credence in it.

Like I said, I had no knowledge of the same sex relationships, but lots of knowledge of all the extramarital affairs. Quite a few people enter the CFPB married and leave it single. Someone said they work in Regulations, and I know of a few affairs that happened there, but many of those involved have left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am pretty floored to read the quid pro quo sex stuff on this thread! I have been an attorney at the CFPB for almost 5 years and am totally unaware of sex for promotions or other forms of favors/influence that is described in some of these emails. Is anyone willing to share in what shop this is happening? It is virtually impossible for me to imagine it happening in Regulations (where I work), FWIW. But things could obviously be very different in different parts of the Bureau. Disturbing.

For the PP that said that these accounts are fictional because of the anonymous nature of this forum, you can choose to believe that sir/madam, but I know that what I’ve posted is true and what others have posted is 100% believable from what I’ve experienced. You just AREN’T likely aware of what is going on because you aren’t in those circles.

To the person I’m quoting, I’ve been with the agency since early on. I got my position because someone that no longer works here, but had a position of power at the agency at the time, wanted to be in a relationship with me so called in a favor. I had no idea this person was interested in me, he/she told me to apply and then a few months later I got a call. I’m sure this is how LOTS of people got into the agency early on.

Over the last few years, the quid pro quo behavior has become commonplace. Again, I’m not surprised that a lot of CFPB employees are unaware of this. But, the hotbeds of this behavior are all throughout Operations and in Examinations. I’m not sure about the rest of SEFL outside of Examinations. It wouldn’t surprise me if Legal has things going on, but I don’t specifically know of anything.