Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

What does your DD think Kindergarten is going to be? My DD is heading to K in the fall and hasn't mentioned any expectations. I think she believes it will be like her current Pre-K.

The kid had no expectations until the parents told her that she is SO spectacular she'll outshine everyone so she should be prepared to be bored. (Not that poster but I agree that kids don't say what they think kindergarten will be like unless parents are planting seeds).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing is those 120-130 IQ kids can handle so much more and need more variety than what is provided in a general ed classroom. So yes, I think those kids can get bored as well.

My kid has a 140 IQ. She doesn't get bored.

If your IQ is also 140, you should realize that your example has nothing to do with whether the 120-130 kids get bored or not. I think the posters who are arguing no kids can be bored need to go back to logic class. No one can prove a blanket statement such as the OP made. That is all.

This kinds of thread always degenerates into an argument that no one can win. I hope that this is the last time I open one.

[Anonymous]

This thread is nonsensical. Of course any person can get bored when forced into a situation where they are not permitted to do anything to interest themselves.

What an intelligent parent teaches their intelligent child is how to manage boring situations, because that's part of life. It's a pity that boredom plays such a large part in a child's education, but that's part of the price of institutionalized learning.

If you're bored in school, it's because you're too bright for what's going on. If you're bored in school, it's because you're not bright enough to figure out a way to entertain yourself. Or maybe no one will allow you to do anything but sit and wait. The nature of the institution is that you are forced to sit quietly, doing nothing or performing a repetitious, mindless task, until some basic concept has been banged into the slowest, least-motivated child's head. Then the herd can move along.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is those 120-130 IQ kids can handle so much more and need more variety than what is provided in a general ed classroom. So yes, I think those kids can get bored as well.

My kid has a 140 IQ. She doesn't get bored.

If your IQ is also 140, you should realize that your example has nothing to do with whether the 120-130 kids get bored or not. I think the posters who are arguing no kids can be bored need to go back to logic class. No one can prove a blanket statement such as the OP made. That is all.

This kinds of thread always degenerates into an argument that no one can win. I hope that this is the last time I open one.


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A child is NOT bored because he/she is so bright. That is the same child who gets bored during an afternoon at home with no electronics. That is the same child who is saying at home he/she is bored.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is nonsensical. Of course any person can get bored when forced into a situation where they are not permitted to do anything to interest themselves.

What an intelligent parent teaches their intelligent child is how to manage boring situations, because that's part of life. It's a pity that boredom plays such a large part in a child's education, but that's part of the price of institutionalized learning.

If you're bored in school, it's because you're too bright for what's going on. If you're bored in school, it's because you're not bright enough to figure out a way to entertain yourself. Or maybe no one will allow you to do anything but sit and wait. The nature of the institution is that you are forced to sit quietly, doing nothing or performing a repetitious, mindless task, until some basic concept has been banged into the slowest, least-motivated child's head. Then the herd can move along.

Ridiculousness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

My DD was in pull out 2x week with the AART for her reading level. And by the way - reading at a higher level is SO much more than decoding. It is the ability to retell, predict, summarize, make connections (which aren't so obvious), etc. Do me a favor...grab a NON fiction book of about 30 pages (relatively easy book) and have your kid read it aloud. Close it. Ask her to retell it IN ORDER and see how much she can remember in order. I'm talking one about dates a person was born, died, what they did, etc. Anyway...she was way advanced in reading entering kindergarten...she is now a rising second grader and can still happily sit through picture books. If you'd stop being so self absorbed, you'd see that many picture books have actually more advanced language than chapter books. This week alone, we've looked at sayings such as "once in a blue moon" or "he hit is out of the park" (related to a correct answer, not a ball game) AND vocabulary: "zero gravity" and "diving rod." Picture books can also have very advanced concepts. One we checked out a few months ago was on the underground railroad, and we just finished one on Martin Luther King, Jr. The one we're about to start is a Helen Keller book.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thing is those 120-130 IQ kids can handle so much more and need more variety than what is provided in a general ed classroom. So yes, I think those kids can get bored as well.

My kid has a 140 IQ. She doesn't get bored.

If your IQ is also 140, you should realize that your example has nothing to do with whether the 120-130 kids get bored or not. I think the posters who are arguing no kids can be bored need to go back to logic class. No one can prove a blanket statement such as the OP made. That is all.

This kinds of thread always degenerates into an argument that no one can win. I hope that this is the last time I open one.

Congratulations, you win "most manipulative poster" award from the Dishonest Internet Posters Association. You're still beating the drum about whether kids can be bored or not. We're all debating how much boredom it's reasonable to expect a kid to live with, and at what point parents and teachers should intervene. When you decide to be reasonable, come join us.

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The problem isn't just IQ. It's also personality. I was a calm, introverted, highly gifted child who just wanted to be left alone. I thought school was a complete waste of time, but I didn't complain. I just did my work as quickly as possible. When I finished my work, I was happy to read quietly.

My son is like my husband -- profoundly gifted, extroverted and high energy. When he's bored, he is going to ask a million questions to find the interesting part of the lesson or he's going to find a way to entertain himself. This is very disruptive to the class. We do our best to coach him on coping with boredom and with finding class situations in which he will be less bored.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

My DD was in pull out 2x week with the AART for her reading level. And by the way - reading at a higher level is SO much more than decoding. It is the ability to retell, predict, summarize, make connections (which aren't so obvious), etc. Do me a favor...grab a NON fiction book of about 30 pages (relatively easy book) and have your kid read it aloud. Close it. Ask her to retell it IN ORDER and see how much she can remember in order. I'm talking one about dates a person was born, died, what they did, etc. Anyway...she was way advanced in reading entering kindergarten...she is now a rising second grader and can still happily sit through picture books. If you'd stop being so self absorbed, you'd see that many picture books have actually more advanced language than chapter books. This week alone, we've looked at sayings such as "once in a blue moon" or "he hit is out of the park" (related to a correct answer, not a ball game) AND vocabulary: "zero gravity" and "diving rod." Picture books can also have very advanced concepts. One we checked out a few months ago was on the underground railroad, and we just finished one on Martin Luther King, Jr. The one we're about to start is a Helen Keller book.

This is exactly where my dd is at. She reads everything, and understands most of it. Since she has started reading her vocabulary has blossomed, because she learns more by actually reading the words herself. When we read to her she never asks for a definition. But, when she reads something herself she is much more curious about the words. She reads all kinds of books. At the library she will read a handful of picture books, but we usually check out the chapter books because it is just more practical. We gave read so many great picture and story books together, though.

It's not about the reading. She is fluently reading and comprehending. And, she us learning from what she reads. She is bot just decoding. In fact, one of the funny things she does when reading a book is stop and make a comment, predict what will happen, or make a personalization. She interacts with the story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

What does your DD think Kindergarten is going to be? My DD is heading to K in the fall and hasn't mentioned any expectations. I think she believes it will be like her current Pre-K.

The kid had no expectations until the parents told her that she is SO spectacular she'll outshine everyone so she should be prepared to be bored. (Not that poster but I agree that kids don't say what they think kindergarten will be like unless parents are planting seeds).

Not at all. She goes to a very fun play school for preschool two afternoons a week. It is not really like achool at all. She reads about school and thinks when she heads to the public school on the big yellow bus she will be doing book reports and science projects and the kids will read books during free play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

What does your DD think Kindergarten is going to be? My DD is heading to K in the fall and hasn't mentioned any expectations. I think she believes it will be like her current Pre-K.

The kid had no expectations until the parents told her that she is SO spectacular she'll outshine everyone so she should be prepared to be bored. (Not that poster but I agree that kids don't say what they think kindergarten will be like unless parents are planting seeds).

Not at all. She goes to a very fun play school for preschool two afternoons a week. It is not really like achool at all. She reads about school and thinks when she heads to the public school on the big yellow bus she will be doing book reports and science projects and the kids will read books during free play.

She should be just fine. She can do science fair. She will likely have writing ( we had a lot of writing work in kindergarten...journals, book information, etc.) if you are sooooo worried, get her some books on going to kindergarten. Sounds like it will be more academic than her current setting anyway. Trust me, if she is in FX county, she won't be an only...she will have a peer group. Mine was one of 4 of almost 60 kids who were on the same level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom of four year old reading chapter books here. I have only posted twice about my dc. I am not sure how anyone got that I'm pretentious, living through my child, overly invested, think I know more than anyone, or tell my kid she is smart. I just said kid reads well. She reads really well-- not just beginner chapter books like magic treehouse, but above that level. And, that because she is so advanced in this department and the books she reads we have noticed that her idea of what kindergarten is going to be like is a little off. We don't want to tell her she is advanced, but we also don't want her to be disappointed by how slow kindergarten will be.

That is all I've said. And, I've appreciated everyone's insight. I'm sure we will make it work.

That was the personal note. On another note, I think that the op is wrong. But, if she wasn't so combative, rude, and dismissive, I'd probably be more inclined to agree with her like I do with the majority of the other posts. It is ridiculous when parents make excuses for bad behavior. I also think many times when kids say they are bored that they need to learn to cope. But I would never agree with such a blanket statement like "truly gifted kids never get bored."

My DD was in pull out 2x week with the AART for her reading level. And by the way - reading at a higher level is SO much more than decoding. It is the ability to retell, predict, summarize, make connections (which aren't so obvious), etc. Do me a favor...grab a NON fiction book of about 30 pages (relatively easy book) and have your kid read it aloud. Close it. Ask her to retell it IN ORDER and see how much she can remember in order. I'm talking one about dates a person was born, died, what they did, etc. Anyway...she was way advanced in reading entering kindergarten...she is now a rising second grader and can still happily sit through picture books. If you'd stop being so self absorbed, you'd see that many picture books have actually more advanced language than chapter books. This week alone, we've looked at sayings such as "once in a blue moon" or "he hit is out of the park" (related to a correct answer, not a ball game) AND vocabulary: "zero gravity" and "diving rod." Picture books can also have very advanced concepts. One we checked out a few months ago was on the underground railroad, and we just finished one on Martin Luther King, Jr. The one we're about to start is a Helen Keller book.

This is exactly where my dd is at. She reads everything, and understands most of it. Since she has started reading her vocabulary has blossomed, because she learns more by actually reading the words herself. When we read to her she never asks for a definition. But, when she reads something herself she is much more curious about the words. She reads all kinds of books. At the library she will read a handful of picture books, but we usually check out the chapter books because it is just more practical. We gave read so many great picture and story books together, though.

It's not about the reading. She is fluently reading and comprehending. And, she us learning from what she reads. She is bot just decoding. In fact, one of the funny things she does when reading a book is stop and make a comment, predict what will happen, or make a personalization. She interacts with the story.

Wow, we have never heard of a child this smart. Ever. Feel better now? A child would not be able to understand the many of the nuances of the English language as far as sayings go without help. You don't want to listen. So be it.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem isn't just IQ. It's also personality. I was a calm, introverted, highly gifted child who just wanted to be left alone. I thought school was a complete waste of time, but I didn't complain. I just did my work as quickly as possible. When I finished my work, I was happy to read quietly.

My son is like my husband -- profoundly gifted, extroverted and high energy. When he's bored, he is going to ask a million questions to find the interesting part of the lesson or he's going to find a way to entertain himself. This is very disruptive to the class. We do our best to coach him on coping with boredom and with finding class situations in which he will be less bored.

I think it is odd that so many people on these boards think their kids are gifted or highly gifted. Seems like everyone is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem isn't just IQ. It's also personality. I was a calm, introverted, highly gifted child who just wanted to be left alone. I thought school was a complete waste of time, but I didn't complain. I just did my work as quickly as possible. When I finished my work, I was happy to read quietly.

My son is like my husband -- profoundly gifted, extroverted and high energy. When he's bored, he is going to ask a million questions to find the interesting part of the lesson or he's going to find a way to entertain himself. This is very disruptive to the class. We do our best to coach him on coping with boredom and with finding class situations in which he will be less bored.

I think it is odd that so many people on these boards think their kids are gifted or highly gifted. Seems like everyone is.

Yup, strange that all the outliers live in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem isn't just IQ. It's also personality. I was a calm, introverted, highly gifted child who just wanted to be left alone. I thought school was a complete waste of time, but I didn't complain. I just did my work as quickly as possible. When I finished my work, I was happy to read quietly.

My son is like my husband -- profoundly gifted, extroverted and high energy. When he's bored, he is going to ask a million questions to find the interesting part of the lesson or he's going to find a way to entertain himself. This is very disruptive to the class. We do our best to coach him on coping with boredom and with finding class situations in which he will be less bored.

I think it is odd that so many people on these boards think their kids are gifted or highly gifted. Seems like everyone is.

Yup, strange that all the outliers live in this area.

This area drives me crazy sometimes... We are willing to give MCPS a go for our average child - but we may re-evaluate at some point if needed. I just feel like the pressure is so intense to "be gifted".