Homework that is busywork - does anyone else just say no?

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% agree with the previous post. You are raising your child up with the mindset that it is okay to pick out what YOUR family thinks is appropriate. It is not whether you think or your child thinks the work is relevant (or attending school is necessary), it is about abiding by commitments set by those in positions of authority over your child. The same is true for a boss, a class in college, etc. You seem to be solely focused on the argument that the assignments aren't helping your child and won't hurt your child. I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the message you're sending to your child. There are non-negotiables in life, whether we like it or not. Perhaps that message is not that important to you so you don't convey it to your kids on an ongoing, non-wavering basis.

I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit? No, I will not be teaching my child that the rules never apply to him. But I sure as hell will not let teachers (or coaches or whatever) materially interfere with our home life. Guess what, I am the parent, and I in fact do decide what is appropriate in my own home, on our own time. This would not be such a big deal if homework etc was not eating up such a big slice of time - especially considering that it has to actual educational value ...

Lady, no one will ever convince you that your attitude will be a detriment to your children, so have at it and drop it already. Good luck with all that.

Who the hell thinks that doing homework interferes with family time? Homework can be part of family time...and I bet that there are tons of crap people could cut out that are non-material to a family unit, that are less important than even menial homework. It is ABSURD to say that the school can only dictate what happens during school hours. It isn't about a dictratorship...it is about life-lessons. You teach your kids your way and I'll teach mine my way.

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Anonymous wrote:[I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit?

Do tell me what homework you object to specifically so that I can see how there is "no limit" and that it would require family time to take second place.

Meanwhile, my kids are riding their bikes outside with their friends (and my husband) right now, will do homework in an hour or so. Poor little lambs, aren't they? Not.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% agree with the previous post. You are raising your child up with the mindset that it is okay to pick out what YOUR family thinks is appropriate. It is not whether you think or your child thinks the work is relevant (or attending school is necessary), it is about abiding by commitments set by those in positions of authority over your child. The same is true for a boss, a class in college, etc. You seem to be solely focused on the argument that the assignments aren't helping your child and won't hurt your child. I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the message you're sending to your child. There are non-negotiables in life, whether we like it or not. Perhaps that message is not that important to you so you don't convey it to your kids on an ongoing, non-wavering basis.

I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit? No, I will not be teaching my child that the rules never apply to him. But I sure as hell will not let teachers (or coaches or whatever) materially interfere with our home life. Guess what, I am the parent, and I in fact do decide what is appropriate in my own home, on our own time. This would not be such a big deal if homework etc was not eating up such a big slice of time - especially considering that it has to actual educational value ...

Lady, no one will ever convince you that your attitude will be a detriment to your children, so have at it and drop it already. Good luck with all that.

Who the hell thinks that doing homework interferes with family time? Homework can be part of family time...and I bet that there are tons of crap people could cut out that are non-material to a family unit, that are less important than even menial homework. It is ABSURD to say that the school can only dictate what happens during school hours. It isn't about a dictratorship...it is about life-lessons. You teach your kids your way and I'll teach mine my way.

No, no, PP...don't you get it? Making a child do homework is EXACTLY like being a Nazi.

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There sure are a bunch of mindless authoritarians on here.

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Anonymous wrote:I 100% agree with the previous post. You are raising your child up with the mindset that it is okay to pick out what YOUR family thinks is appropriate. It is not whether you think or your child thinks the work is relevant (or attending school is necessary), it is about abiding by commitments set by those in positions of authority over your child. The same is true for a boss, a class in college, etc. You seem to be solely focused on the argument that the assignments aren't helping your child and won't hurt your child. I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the message you're sending to your child. There are non-negotiables in life, whether we like it or not. Perhaps that message is not that important to you so you don't convey it to your kids on an ongoing, non-wavering basis.

I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit? No, I will not be teaching my child that the rules never apply to him. But I sure as hell will not let teachers (or coaches or whatever) materially interfere with our home life. Guess what, I am the parent, and I in fact do decide what is appropriate in my own home, on our own time. This would not be such a big deal if homework etc was not eating up such a big slice of time - especially considering that it has to actual educational value ...

Lady, no one will ever convince you that your attitude will be a detriment to your children, so have at it and drop it already. Good luck with all that.

Who the hell thinks that doing homework interferes with family time? Homework can be part of family time...and I bet that there are tons of crap people could cut out that are non-material to a family unit, that are less important than even menial homework. It is ABSURD to say that the school can only dictate what happens during school hours. It isn't about a dictratorship...it is about life-lessons. You teach your kids your way and I'll teach mine my way.

No, no, PP...don't you get it? Making a child do homework is EXACTLY like being a Nazi.

You need help.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% agree with the previous post. You are raising your child up with the mindset that it is okay to pick out what YOUR family thinks is appropriate. It is not whether you think or your child thinks the work is relevant (or attending school is necessary), it is about abiding by commitments set by those in positions of authority over your child. The same is true for a boss, a class in college, etc. You seem to be solely focused on the argument that the assignments aren't helping your child and won't hurt your child. I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the message you're sending to your child. There are non-negotiables in life, whether we like it or not. Perhaps that message is not that important to you so you don't convey it to your kids on an ongoing, non-wavering basis.

I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit? No, I will not be teaching my child that the rules never apply to him. But I sure as hell will not let teachers (or coaches or whatever) materially interfere with our home life. Guess what, I am the parent, and I in fact do decide what is appropriate in my own home, on our own time. This would not be such a big deal if homework etc was not eating up such a big slice of time - especially considering that it has to actual educational value ...

Lady, no one will ever convince you that your attitude will be a detriment to your children, so have at it and drop it already. Good luck with all that.

Who the hell thinks that doing homework interferes with family time? Homework can be part of family time...and I bet that there are tons of crap people could cut out that are non-material to a family unit, that are less important than even menial homework. It is ABSURD to say that the school can only dictate what happens during school hours. It isn't about a dictratorship...it is about life-lessons. You teach your kids your way and I'll teach mine my way.

No, no, PP...don't you get it? Making a child do homework is EXACTLY like being a Nazi.

You need help.

And you desperately need a sense of humor.

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Kid anything said produced a chuckle, I'd agree. It did not, so I don't.

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I just don't understand the complaint that homework "interferes" with family life. Homework is an integral part of family life. I have taught my kids this since 2nd grade.
Tell ya what intereferes with my family life - doing the income taxes. I've been messing with that this week. Does anyone just say no?

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Anonymous wrote:Kid anything said produced a chuckle, I'd agree. It did not, so I don't.

Huh?

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Anonymous wrote:Kid anything said produced a chuckle, I'd agree. It did not, so I don't.

Huh?

"If anything said produced a chuckle, I'd agree. It did not, so I don't."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I 100% agree with the previous post. You are raising your child up with the mindset that it is okay to pick out what YOUR family thinks is appropriate. It is not whether you think or your child thinks the work is relevant (or attending school is necessary), it is about abiding by commitments set by those in positions of authority over your child. The same is true for a boss, a class in college, etc. You seem to be solely focused on the argument that the assignments aren't helping your child and won't hurt your child. I'm not focusing on that. I'm focusing on the message you're sending to your child. There are non-negotiables in life, whether we like it or not. Perhaps that message is not that important to you so you don't convey it to your kids on an ongoing, non-wavering basis.

I am still flabbergasted at the view that the family should take second place to whatever random thing the school decides to do. Surely there is a limit? No, I will not be teaching my child that the rules never apply to him. But I sure as hell will not let teachers (or coaches or whatever) materially interfere with our home life. Guess what, I am the parent, and I in fact do decide what is appropriate in my own home, on our own time. This would not be such a big deal if homework etc was not eating up such a big slice of time - especially considering that it has to actual educational value ...

Lady, no one will ever convince you that your attitude will be a detriment to your children, so have at it and drop it already. Good luck with all that.

Not the PP you're responding to but I, too, will never be convinced that our attitudes on homework will be a detriment to our kids. When our kids started school, we made no commitment to do homework and the school only has authority our kids when they're in school, not when they're home. My kids know there are consequences to their actions and decisions. They don't need homework to teach them that.

I'm done with this thread and the homework Nazis.

Godwin's Law. You lose.

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You have such a warped, myoptic thinking it is hard to reason with you. If you don't want to do homework - DON'T...but don't judge me for making my kid comply. You want to revolt - and want others to join the revolution...sorry, honey...you "teach" your kids your way and I'll teach mine, my way

Ah, I get it. It's not okay for us to judge you for making your kid do all this homework but it's fine for you to judge us for not making our kids do it. I don't know what revolution you're talking about. I don't care whether kids do homework or not. We all make choices we think are best for our families. Your choices don't work for me and I don't care whether you approval or not and I don't care what you think of me. I think you're trying to hard to justify your own choices. Makes me think you're unsure about them. But, I don't know know you care about my opinion any more than I care about yours.

I think the attitudes you're teaching your children about which homework has value won't serve your child well in later grades, college, or the workplace. In later grades, failure to do homework results in lower grades. Do you plan to say "that was then, this is now" when your child is getting Bs and Cs because they don't do their homework and say it's because they learned from you early on that some homework is optional? It may also come as a shock to them that managers in jobs often expect menial tasks to be completed and are not impressed by a failure to do so explained with "it was just busywork."

Still not convinced. Just like school not being the only place learning occurs, doing busy work isn't the only way to teach kids about 'menial' work. If homework is part of their grade or needed for learning and they choose not to do it, then they'll fail - as they should. There are no benefits of them doing homework now and there are no negative consequences. When that changes, our position on homework will change, too.

Huh. In our school, failure to complete homework does, in fact, result in lower report card scores. 2nd Grade.

Can't be FCPS - HW is not counted in FCPS in lower grades.

No, not FCPS. I send my kids to a good school system.