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Anonymous wrote:Is it true JLG has promised to defund charter schools?



She needs to tell voters her plan for charter schools. If she's going to try to kneecap them, parents need to know that.


This sounds like something you just made up on DCUM. Like a lot of the anti-JLG rhetoric, just pure manufactured 💩
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Anonymous wrote:Is it true JLG has promised to defund charter schools?



She needs to tell voters her plan for charter schools. If she's going to try to kneecap them, parents need to know that.


This sounds like something you just made up on DCUM. Like a lot of the anti-JLG rhetoric, just pure manufactured 💩


She despises charter schools, and doesn't think they should even exist.
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So what are some of wanting to change about education?

Firstly, we need to follow the science. ‘Rigor’ in ECE actually causes kids to be behind. Zero play in K does too. We should have been implementing the science of reading a decade ago.

There needs to be more enrichment and not just empty worry for at risk kids. DCPS needs a clean out at the top because they aren’t producing meaningful results.

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Anonymous wrote:So what are some of wanting to change about education?

Firstly, we need to follow the science. ‘Rigor’ in ECE actually causes kids to be behind. Zero play in K does too. We should have been implementing the science of reading a decade ago.

There needs to be more enrichment and not just empty worry for at risk kids. DCPS needs a clean out at the top because they aren’t producing meaningful results.



We need a DCPS Central office actually capable of managing. They need to be able to solve problems, to balace risk and benefit -- not just "no" and make new restrictive rules every time they encounter a challenge. They need to be able to trust principals enough to empower them, not just expect them to implement marching orders (and they need to be able to hire capable, creative principals worthy of trust). They need to trust teachers to teach, rather than trying to have them simply be messagers for (crappy!) curriculum chosen by Central and then monitored through RCTs and such (and they need to be able to hire teachers worthy of that trust). They need to not waste teachers' time with low quality PD. They need to reduce, not increase, the use of technology in the classroom. They need to come of with a new conception and new leadership for DCIAA. They need to be serve food in the cafeteria of sufficient quality that the average person would actually choose to eat it. They (or the Mayor) needs to restructure the relationship with DGS such that schools are actually maintained, not just renovated every 20 years. They need competent contracting capabilities, that can buy supplies (paper!) and services (buses!) at market rate rather than some jacked up price through local companies set up for the DCPS grift. I'm sure there's more...
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Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."


At least she may have prospective interest. Better than McDuffie, who long ago opted out.
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Anyone familiar with Gary Goodweather? His focus on reading is nice. I don't know anything about him other than seeing yard signs.

https://www.goodweatherfordc.com/issues/issue-1
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."


At least she may have prospective interest. Better than McDuffie, who long ago opted out.


She might be interested in the schools because she speculatively might one day have a child in one of them?

This is a very unserious way to think about this. Judge the candidates on the merits of their policy actions and ideas.
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."


At least she may have prospective interest. Better than McDuffie, who long ago opted out.


She might be interested in the schools because she speculatively might one day have a child in one of them?

This is a very unserious way to think about this. Judge the candidates on the merits of their policy actions and ideas.


I do, which is why I've closely followed her oversight of DGS as I don't think it's ok that schools don't have heat. I don't think she's been perfect on the schools, but what does McDuffie have to show on education?
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."


At least she may have prospective interest. Better than McDuffie, who long ago opted out.


She might be interested in the schools because she speculatively might one day have a child in one of them?

This is a very unserious way to think about this. Judge the candidates on the merits of their policy actions and ideas.


I may not see eye to eye with JLG on much but McDuffie has literally nothing on education. No plank or concrete policy proposals whatsoever
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly Janice Lewis George is my pick -she is the only one who talked about actually structural changes.
My second is Gary Goodweather, who talks about classroom changes and training for teacher but to me it’s also a red flag. If you know Michelle Rhee, she did a number on DCPS and helped ruin it. Teachers don’t need MORE training, we need GOOD training and planning time.

I find it interesting McDuffie is ALWAYS declining debates involving education. I also recently discovered his plan is to get kids ‘AI ready.’ Just no, we don’t need more tech. The research clearly shows this is not the way and let’s be honest most dummies can utilize AI -to use it well should be an elective a kid in HS can take IF they are interested.


Thanks for this - what structural changes is JLG supporting?


Janeese is a vote for the status quo. She will slavishly do whatever the teacher's union wants (she was trying to re-close schools during the pandemic for months after they had finally opened for good). Her answer to every problem is throwing more money at it. Let's face it. These schools are extremely well funded. What they need are higher academic standards. She is the last person on Earth who will support making schools more rigorous.


This is what worries me too. A PP stated that JLG would be "changing who is in charge not just the chancellor but possibly deputy of education, superintendents." That's what new Mayors do but the people in consideration for those jobs by JLG are the DSA, not focused on higher standards, set. It's a real drawback IMO for her as a candidate.


She's also a sworn enemy of charters. Don't be shocked if she slashes funding for them if elected. Charters already get screwed under the current way DC funds schools.


Yea, she’s not gonna slash the great charters. Also you are an idiot. The mayor alone cannot slash ONLY charter funds, it’d be illegal.


There is a fair amount of discretion in the budget to fund charters lower than DCPS (whether you consider it slashing or not probably depends, but the mayor has room to hurt charters financially). This can happen in two main ways.

First, facilities funding is very different for charters; the per pupil allotment they get already doesn’t keep pace with DC prices, and the three-year budget last year froze it. Because this looks so different from how DCPS facilities are funded, it is essentially decoupled and you can hurt charters here. In fact, the charter sector is extremely worried about this area for this year’s budget already.

Next, there is the fund for teacher pay above and beyond what schools can do with PPF. Now, you can argue that this bucket should only be for DCPS since it relates to the WTU negotiated contract, but last year the mayor put some money aside for charters for equity with this funding bucket for DCPS teachers. Again, the charter sector is very worried about this bucket this year already; without, they will either be at more of a disadvantage for recruitment or have to cut elsewhere. Again, regardless of what you think about this bucket, the mayor has a lot of sway depending on whether they put it on a proposed budget and it would harm charters.


Unions are bad when they want to protect their teachers but good when they make the city give charter teachers benefits that the DCPS union worked for
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly Janice Lewis George is my pick -she is the only one who talked about actually structural changes.
My second is Gary Goodweather, who talks about classroom changes and training for teacher but to me it’s also a red flag. If you know Michelle Rhee, she did a number on DCPS and helped ruin it. Teachers don’t need MORE training, we need GOOD training and planning time.

I find it interesting McDuffie is ALWAYS declining debates involving education. I also recently discovered his plan is to get kids ‘AI ready.’ Just no, we don’t need more tech. The research clearly shows this is not the way and let’s be honest most dummies can utilize AI -to use it well should be an elective a kid in HS can take IF they are interested.


Thanks for this - what structural changes is JLG supporting?


Janeese is a vote for the status quo. She will slavishly do whatever the teacher's union wants (she was trying to re-close schools during the pandemic for months after they had finally opened for good). Her answer to every problem is throwing more money at it. Let's face it. These schools are extremely well funded. What they need are higher academic standards. She is the last person on Earth who will support making schools more rigorous.


This is what worries me too. A PP stated that JLG would be "changing who is in charge not just the chancellor but possibly deputy of education, superintendents." That's what new Mayors do but the people in consideration for those jobs by JLG are the DSA, not focused on higher standards, set. It's a real drawback IMO for her as a candidate.


She's also a sworn enemy of charters. Don't be shocked if she slashes funding for them if elected. Charters already get screwed under the current way DC funds schools.


Yea, she’s not gonna slash the great charters. Also you are an idiot. The mayor alone cannot slash ONLY charter funds, it’d be illegal.


There is a fair amount of discretion in the budget to fund charters lower than DCPS (whether you consider it slashing or not probably depends, but the mayor has room to hurt charters financially). This can happen in two main ways.

First, facilities funding is very different for charters; the per pupil allotment they get already doesn’t keep pace with DC prices, and the three-year budget last year froze it. Because this looks so different from how DCPS facilities are funded, it is essentially decoupled and you can hurt charters here. In fact, the charter sector is extremely worried about this area for this year’s budget already.

Next, there is the fund for teacher pay above and beyond what schools can do with PPF. Now, you can argue that this bucket should only be for DCPS since it relates to the WTU negotiated contract, but last year the mayor put some money aside for charters for equity with this funding bucket for DCPS teachers. Again, the charter sector is very worried about this bucket this year already; without, they will either be at more of a disadvantage for recruitment or have to cut elsewhere. Again, regardless of what you think about this bucket, the mayor has a lot of sway depending on whether they put it on a proposed budget and it would harm charters.


Unions are bad when they want to protect their teachers but good when they make the city give charter teachers benefits that the DCPS union worked for


Even union people are skeptical about teachers unions. Like police unions, they seem to exist mostly to protect bad behavior and prevent accountability.
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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately it will be McDuffie or Lewis George. The first had kids in private school and skipped the education forum, while JLG is a DCPS graduate with a baby that I would guess she will put in DCPS during her mayoral term which will give her a firsthand experience of what's going on in the schools.

I have also been impressed with her work on oversight of DGS and I hope she cleans house with them when she is mayor.


Having a preschooler in a single DCPS elementary years into a mayoral term is not the experience I'd want a Mayor to rely on for "what's going on in the schools."


At least she may have prospective interest. Better than McDuffie, who long ago opted out.


Exactly, like what are they saying? Bowser also has a young child in DCPS (mostly lol).
McDuffie clearly doesn’t believe in any DC public school.
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Anonymous wrote:Honestly Janice Lewis George is my pick -she is the only one who talked about actually structural changes.
My second is Gary Goodweather, who talks about classroom changes and training for teacher but to me it’s also a red flag. If you know Michelle Rhee, she did a number on DCPS and helped ruin it. Teachers don’t need MORE training, we need GOOD training and planning time.

I find it interesting McDuffie is ALWAYS declining debates involving education. I also recently discovered his plan is to get kids ‘AI ready.’ Just no, we don’t need more tech. The research clearly shows this is not the way and let’s be honest most dummies can utilize AI -to use it well should be an elective a kid in HS can take IF they are interested.


Thanks for this - what structural changes is JLG supporting?


Janeese is a vote for the status quo. She will slavishly do whatever the teacher's union wants (she was trying to re-close schools during the pandemic for months after they had finally opened for good). Her answer to every problem is throwing more money at it. Let's face it. These schools are extremely well funded. What they need are higher academic standards. She is the last person on Earth who will support making schools more rigorous.


This is what worries me too. A PP stated that JLG would be "changing who is in charge not just the chancellor but possibly deputy of education, superintendents." That's what new Mayors do but the people in consideration for those jobs by JLG are the DSA, not focused on higher standards, set. It's a real drawback IMO for her as a candidate.


She's also a sworn enemy of charters. Don't be shocked if she slashes funding for them if elected. Charters already get screwed under the current way DC funds schools.


Yea, she’s not gonna slash the great charters. Also you are an idiot. The mayor alone cannot slash ONLY charter funds, it’d be illegal.


There is a fair amount of discretion in the budget to fund charters lower than DCPS (whether you consider it slashing or not probably depends, but the mayor has room to hurt charters financially). This can happen in two main ways.

First, facilities funding is very different for charters; the per pupil allotment they get already doesn’t keep pace with DC prices, and the three-year budget last year froze it. Because this looks so different from how DCPS facilities are funded, it is essentially decoupled and you can hurt charters here. In fact, the charter sector is extremely worried about this area for this year’s budget already.

Next, there is the fund for teacher pay above and beyond what schools can do with PPF. Now, you can argue that this bucket should only be for DCPS since it relates to the WTU negotiated contract, but last year the mayor put some money aside for charters for equity with this funding bucket for DCPS teachers. Again, the charter sector is very worried about this bucket this year already; without, they will either be at more of a disadvantage for recruitment or have to cut elsewhere. Again, regardless of what you think about this bucket, the mayor has a lot of sway depending on whether they put it on a proposed budget and it would harm charters.


Unions are bad when they want to protect their teachers but good when they make the city give charter teachers benefits that the DCPS union worked for


Huh unions are bad when they want to protect teachers from harassment, fraud, discrimination, or the like? When they tell members to remember their contractual rights?

Tell me famous DCPS case where the union protected a corrupt teacher?
I mean there was fraud in 1995-2002 but that lady was stealing from WTU MEMBERS.

I can name plenty of cases where DCPS itself protected corrupt admin. From double dipping, to sexual scandals, to embezzlement…
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