Heated Rivalry (Crave/HBO-Max)

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Anonymous wrote:For the people who things this show is erotica or p*rn, someone timed the sex scenes. They counted time spent talking afterwards and flashbacks.

https://www.threads.com/@toriloves_heas/post/DTg3BcglCkl?xmt=AQF0ddJBn7TASRJOQaFA1XikylCvTUXh1DpIO8HJmuErg_0

Episode 1: 8 minutes 15 seconds
Episode 2: 4 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 3: 1 minute 40 seconds
Episode 4: 2 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 5: 0
Episode 6: 2 minutes

Under 19 minutes. Total run time for the entire show is 295 minutes. 6.67% of the show was sex scenes.

Are these people prudes? Or is it just that the couples are men?

Eh not a big fan of gay sex, men or women. Not my jam.

FWIW to me, any show that spends 7% of its time on sex has too much sex. A couple of scenes in the entire run sure. More than that is too much for me. But then I am not the target audience anyway since I am not a big fan of the romance genre. I think it should be an appetizer not the main course in the narrative.

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I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

The show is way better than the books! The leas is gorgeous and great at acting, and the sex is surprisingly hot. I normally fast forward through tacky scenes, but none of that here.
You can get a one-month Max subscription through Amazon and cancel it. Although I did that 1.5 months ago and still haven’t canceled because…re-watching

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

It’s funny because as a smut & fanfic reader, I can tell you that the smut in this is pretty tame (compared to other smut). It’s mostly sweet and intimate. Not raunchy at all. The people in this thread calling Heated Rivalry “porn” is why I don’t answer truthfully when people ask what I’m reading. Most can’t handle it!

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I read that it is currently the 4th or 5th most streamed TV show in the US. Impressive for a low budget production with no big name actors. Hoping to watch it this weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense.

You are wrong in all sorts of ways. E.g., a hockey player just came out of the closet and credited the show: https://www.out.com/gay-athletes/heated-rivalry-real-hockey-player-coming-out

That guy was already out. Lives in Vancouver with his boyfriend and plays on an LGBTQ rec league. And he wasn’t a pro player - half of Canada’s population are ‘hockey players’. Just someone looking for a couple minutes of fame.

No need to move the goal posts. Fact is, this show is breaking down barriers for lgtbq players in hockey. Male hockey culture is extremely homophobic. If people are more comfortable with themselves or others after watching this show, I'm all for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read that it is currently the 4th or 5th most streamed TV show in the US. Impressive for a low budget production with no big name actors. Hoping to watch it this weekend.

Enjoy it! I wish I could watch it again for the first time.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense.

You are wrong in all sorts of ways. E.g., a hockey player just came out of the closet and credited the show: https://www.out.com/gay-athletes/heated-rivalry-real-hockey-player-coming-out

That guy was already out. Lives in Vancouver with his boyfriend and plays on an LGBTQ rec league. And he wasn’t a pro player - half of Canada’s population are ‘hockey players’. Just someone looking for a couple minutes of fame.

No need to move the goal posts. Fact is, this show is breaking down barriers for lgtbq players in hockey. Male hockey culture is extremely homophobic. If people are more comfortable with themselves or others after watching this show, I'm all for it.

No, it isn't breaking barriers. An already out guy who plays backyard hockey on an LGBTQ team has zero connection to a pro hockey player coming out. Thare has been a ton of gay relationships in films and series recently - it is everywhere. If it makes someone more comfortable with themselves - great but this particular smut isn't going to change hockey culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

It’s funny because as a smut & fanfic reader, I can tell you that the smut in this is pretty tame (compared to other smut). It’s mostly sweet and intimate. Not raunchy at all. The people in this thread calling Heated Rivalry “porn” is why I don’t answer truthfully when people ask what I’m reading. Most can’t handle it!

It is smut written for women. So it is about intimacy and romance and tenderness etc. It has very little connection to the sex lives of gay men - if you read about it on gay discussion forums, their comments are not what all the women viewers are saying - other than that they too love Ilya's ass! True porn is written for men - so it focuses on very different things. But this kind of lovey dovey smut is chick porn. It is women's fantasies - versus true porn being men's fantasies.

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I love that this show exists and is so viral. I live in a country that is reversing protections for LGBTQ people, charging women with murder for having abortions or miscarriages, and terrorizing citizens and immigrants just trying to go about their lives. Knowing there are millions of people out there celebrating gay love and healthy relationships makes the world seem just a little less out of control. And seeing tons of people on social media talking positively and supportively to each other about the show is heartening.
God Bless Canada.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

It’s funny because as a smut & fanfic reader, I can tell you that the smut in this is pretty tame (compared to other smut). It’s mostly sweet and intimate. Not raunchy at all. The people in this thread calling Heated Rivalry “porn” is why I don’t answer truthfully when people ask what I’m reading. Most can’t handle it!

It is smut written for women. So it is about intimacy and romance and tenderness etc. It has very little connection to the sex lives of gay men - if you read about it on gay discussion forums, their comments are not what all the women viewers are saying - other than that they too love Ilya's ass! True porn is written for men - so it focuses on very different things. But this kind of lovey dovey smut is chick porn. It is women's fantasies - versus true porn being men's fantasies.

I don’t disagree that this is written for women, but there is a wide range of smut written by and for women that is much, much raunchier, and not at all romantic or tender. This is fairly tame smut. Being written for women does not automatically mean it’s romantic. I’ve read some truly unhinged stuff. I’ve read some passages to my husband and his response was “What’s wrong with you?!” lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

It’s funny because as a smut & fanfic reader, I can tell you that the smut in this is pretty tame (compared to other smut). It’s mostly sweet and intimate. Not raunchy at all. The people in this thread calling Heated Rivalry “porn” is why I don’t answer truthfully when people ask what I’m reading. Most can’t handle it!

It is smut written for women. So it is about intimacy and romance and tenderness etc. It has very little connection to the sex lives of gay men - if you read about it on gay discussion forums, their comments are not what all the women viewers are saying - other than that they too love Ilya's ass! True porn is written for men - so it focuses on very different things. But this kind of lovey dovey smut is chick porn. It is women's fantasies - versus true porn being men's fantasies.

They hook up and have hot sex for like 8 years before ever even using each other’s first names.

Jacob Tierney was very clear that was one of the things he thought the books did “right” in writing a queer male romance.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a straight woman. I haven’t seen the show since I don’t have HBO but I got the book a few days ago. I’ve never read gay fiction before but the sex scenes are well written- tender and surprisingly 🔥🔥🔥

It’s funny because as a smut & fanfic reader, I can tell you that the smut in this is pretty tame (compared to other smut). It’s mostly sweet and intimate. Not raunchy at all. The people in this thread calling Heated Rivalry “porn” is why I don’t answer truthfully when people ask what I’m reading. Most can’t handle it!

It is smut written for women. So it is about intimacy and romance and tenderness etc. It has very little connection to the sex lives of gay men - if you read about it on gay discussion forums, their comments are not what all the women viewers are saying - other than that they too love Ilya's ass! True porn is written for men - so it focuses on very different things. But this kind of lovey dovey smut is chick porn. It is women's fantasies - versus true porn being men's fantasies.

I don’t disagree that this is written for women, but there is a wide range of smut written by and for women that is much, much raunchier, and not at all romantic or tender. This is fairly tame smut. Being written for women does not automatically mean it’s romantic. I’ve read some truly unhinged stuff. I’ve read some passages to my husband and his response was “What’s wrong with you?!” lol

I guess i have never happened upon that smut...for better or worse! This seems to have hit the right amount of smut to be edgy for mainstream but not too edgy.

[Anonymous]

I enjoyed this show because it has everything: a good love story, very attractive leads who are great at acting, sex, humor, sports, symbolism, good aesthetics, a good soundtrack, plus the director is clearly an artist and not a narcissistic Hollywood douche.
What’s not to like!

[Anonymous]

Directors and producers have to look harder for new talent. It’s boring to watch the same dozen or so actors and actresses in every other movie and show. Connor Storrie is absolutely mesmerizing as Ilya, and we need more talent like that to be discovered. What a breakout performance for him! I was glued to every scene he was in.