Heated Rivalry (Crave/HBO-Max)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The show is very arty: the lighting, the framing, the sex scenes. The music choices were excellent and perfectly timed. Using a hit song by a Russian pop band for the club scene was on the money, and the frame of Ilya’s eyes scanning the club for Shane as the song builds up is very well done. There are a ton of little details throughout the show that are a testament to how thoughtful the creators are, e.g. the art in Ilya’s home; I especially love the abstract painting of two hockey players in Boston’s and the Montreal’ team colors above Ilya’s bed, which Shane would never notice because he is so literal and straightforward; or how high Shane’s heart rate in the hospital scene as he is freaking out about having missed his chance to invite Ilya to the cottage, and then after Ilya’s visit his heart rare settles at 81, Ilya’s jersey number etc.

I am a sucker for details, art, good music, romance and yearning, so this show is right up my alley.

+1. I was giggling every time I noticed the guys wearing each other’s clothes in subsequent scenes. It happens more and more frequently as the relationship deepens.

S peaking of art, Connor Storrie’s body is a piece of art too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would watch but gay sex is cringe for me to watch. Is there a lot of it?

It’s pretty raunchy, lol. There are short clips circulating on Twitter.

I decided to read the books first. I am not a prude, but oh my this is graphic M/M sex. I'm not hating it...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would watch but gay sex is cringe for me to watch. Is there a lot of it?

It’s pretty raunchy, lol. There are short clips circulating on Twitter.

I decided to read the books first. I am not a prude, but oh my this is graphic M/M sex. I'm not hating it...

It’s like Queer as Folk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For the people who things this show is erotica or p*rn, someone timed the sex scenes. They counted time spent talking afterwards and flashbacks.

https://www.threads.com/@toriloves_heas/post/DTg3BcglCkl?xmt=AQF0ddJBn7TASRJOQaFA1XikylCvTUXh1DpIO8HJmuErg_0

Episode 1: 8 minutes 15 seconds
Episode 2: 4 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 3: 1 minute 40 seconds
Episode 4: 2 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 5: 0
Episode 6: 2 minutes

Under 19 minutes. Total run time for the entire show is 295 minutes. 6.67% of the show was sex scenes.

Are these people prudes? Or is it just that the couples are men?

Eh not a big fan of gay sex, men or women. Not my jam.

Thank goodness no one is forcing you to watch it or talk about it.

How weird are you that you keep coming back to this thread. Maybe you actually do like queer (not gay, Ilya is bi) romance and are in denial? You know what they say, "the lady doth protest too much!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

I mean… I wish a hot guy like Ilya would find me sexy enough to jerk off to. If you are a prude and worried about men seeing you naked in the shower, then shower at home or in your hotel room? Which is what the vast majority of professional athletes do anyway. Let’s be for real here, irl no one is jerking off in the locker showers in front of their teammates. Besides, Shane didn’t say no, he was rather mesmerized. After he said not here, Ilya stopped immediately. I don’t see the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the people who things this show is erotica or p*rn, someone timed the sex scenes. They counted time spent talking afterwards and flashbacks.

https://www.threads.com/@toriloves_heas/post/DTg3BcglCkl?xmt=AQF0ddJBn7TASRJOQaFA1XikylCvTUXh1DpIO8HJmuErg_0

Episode 1: 8 minutes 15 seconds
Episode 2: 4 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 3: 1 minute 40 seconds
Episode 4: 2 minutes 30 seconds
Episode 5: 0
Episode 6: 2 minutes

Under 19 minutes. Total run time for the entire show is 295 minutes. 6.67% of the show was sex scenes.

Are these people prudes? Or is it just that the couples are men?

Eh not a big fan of gay sex, men or women. Not my jam.

Thank goodness no one is forcing you to watch it or talk about it.

How weird are you that you keep coming back to this thread. Maybe you actually do like queer (not gay, Ilya is bi) romance and are in denial? You know what they say, "the lady doth protest too much!"

First post on this. Didn’t know about the show. 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would watch but gay sex is cringe for me to watch. Is there a lot of it?

It’s pretty raunchy, lol. There are short clips circulating on Twitter.

I decided to read the books first. I am not a prude, but oh my this is graphic M/M sex. I'm not hating it...

While the sex in the show isn’t gentle per se, I love how gentle and tender they are with each other. Often kissing, Ilya always touching his face and lifting his chin up for eye contact, checking on him if this or that is ok, if he is scared, if he still wants it. Asking for consent and then doing raunchy stuff is hot! I wish more hetero men would watch the show because it is a case study in what women find attractive and arousing too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya starts jerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

To be fair, they were flirting prior to this. It did not come out of nowhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense.

You are wrong in all sorts of ways. E.g., a hockey player just came out of the closet and credited the show: https://www.out.com/gay-athletes/heated-rivalry-real-hockey-player-coming-out

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I think the series reinforces a discomfort that a lot of hockey players would have. That the gay guy on the team is staring at your body and genitals in the shower and jerking off to it.

It's a special person that assumes any queer person around them is attracted to them.

Did you watch it? Ilya watches Shane showering and then starts jerking off.

Ilya stajerking off after he notices Shane getting hard. It’s subtle—the book makes it more clear.

Getting hard doesn’t mean you want sexual advances. It’s clear Ilya gets off watching teammates shower. I think the idea that if a man or woman doesn’t want someone staring at their naked body and jerking off to them, it is on them to never put themselves in that situation is exactly why there would be an issue if a gay hockey player came out. If the team is then told he is going to watch you shower and may jerk off to you so if you don’t want that…shower at home, that isn’t going to go over well. Nor should it.

So what is your solution? Don’t be gay?? Your argument is weak and frankly silly.
And yes, getting hard / signaling to someone that you are attracted to them and want them warrants a reply. In fact, the opposite would be awkward! How do people hook up? One shows the other they want them (eg, by getting hard in the shower when just the two of you), and then it is either reciprocated (hopefully) or put an end to 🤷‍♀️

My point is this is a fantasy tv show. It has nothing to do with real life. There is no deep meaning. Hockey players aren’t going to think about coming out because of this show, it’s just TV. Like all the other tv. It’s meant for women who get off on men’s hot bodies and gentle caresses and kisses and tender loving gazes just like men get off on women’s hot bodies and sex. It isn’t deep or meaningful. It’s the genre of smut. Just like the story telling in porn isn’t deep or meaningful. Watch it for the entertainment but people connecting it to real life is nonsense.

You are wrong in all sorts of ways. E.g., a hockey player just came out of the closet and credited the show: https://www.out.com/gay-athletes/heated-rivalry-real-hockey-player-coming-out

That guy was already out. Lives in Vancouver with his boyfriend and plays on an LGBTQ rec league. And he wasn’t a pro player - half of Canada’s population are ‘hockey players’. Just someone looking for a couple minutes of fame.