Michigan Early Decision - Any Early Anecdotes?

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.

Are you sure 70 are EDing and that # is not a combination of EA and ED?
Yorktown has ~ 600 students per grade - so more than 10% of the class are EDing to Michigan?

I am really skeptical that this is accurate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.

In Virginia,...... what?

If these Yorktown kids have the stats to get into Michigan, they could get into UVA. Hard to believe there are 70 kids that would pay $80,000 a year for Michigan knowing they could very likely go in state to UVA for half the cost.

A lot more than $80,000 a year. Cost of attendance OOS Michigan:

Freshman & Sophomore year - $84,164
Junior & Senior year - $88,646

Christ that’s what we are full pay at an Ivy.

Yep. So it seems crazy to think 70 public school families would sign up for that tuition, given that Michigan gives virtually no aid to OOS students. I know there are plenty of public school families than can easily afford $85k+ a year—but 70 are willing to commit at ED? Especially when you consider that the instate school option is UVA? Come on. OP is full of it.

Two kids at OOS publics, one being UMich. Neither wanted UVA.

Not a strong Engineering program (which is what they wanted) and felt like UVA was NoVA 2.0. They wanted a break from NoVA.

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Our W school (per reliable source ) had more ED apps to Michigan than any other school.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.

Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.

Huh?

NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

HTH

Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.

In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.

Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.

That still doesn’t answer why the yield rate is so low for MD residents who apply to UVA. It’s obvious. Michigan is a top 20 school. There are no schools in Virginia that are even top 25.

Only by USNWR and no other ranking service. Michigan has only 32 Rhodes scholars. UVA has 57

….and still hasn’t been able to produce a graduate who went on to win even one Nobel Prize in its long history. Embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many more W school students who apply and attend Michigan than APS students. It’s the MD vs VA split. Numerically there is just no way 70 kids applied ED from YHS. My kid got into Michigan from YHS last year (c/o 2025). They are attending another T20.

Michigan is more desirable for MD residents because UVa is a better school and place/option for instate residents.

Huh?

NP. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider.

HTH

Still doesn’t explain your comment. If you think UVA is the better school/place, why is the yield rate so much higher at Michigan with a similar acceptance rate? Costs are equivalent.

In part because Virginia has 3 strong state schools and Michigan has one. Many kids apply to 2 of 3 or all 3 of the Virginia schools and they lose kids to each other.

Michigan is basically UVA and V Tech in one. Or NC State and UNC in one. Or GA and GA Tech in one. They're going to have a higher yield than these other state schools because they're the only game in town.

That still doesn’t answer why the yield rate is so low for MD residents who apply to UVA. It’s obvious. Michigan is a top 20 school. There are no schools in Virginia that are even top 25.

Only by USNWR and no other ranking service. Michigan has only 32 Rhodes scholars. UVA has 57

https://www.niche.com/colleges/university-of-michigan-ann-arbor/rankings/?msockid=31d6bf66a4ba67e12de4aa61a5f5666c

#1 in top public universities
#19 overall

[Anonymous]

UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520

Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530

The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.

At the bottom end, UVA has better students.

An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520

Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530

The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.

At the bottom end, UVA has better students.

An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.

You really need to get that chip off your shoulder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.

Are you sure 70 are EDing and that # is not a combination of EA and ED?
Yorktown has ~ 600 students per grade - so more than 10% of the class are EDing to Michigan?

I am really skeptical that this is accurate

Same. I think there was confusion. I don't have access to Naviance anymore, but that number sounds very high based upon where it was when my DC applied. Are there 70 families who send their kids there if they ED'd, of course. That isn't far-fetched. However, that just doesn't seem like a realistic ED number based upon past total applications and the low acceptance rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our W school (per reliable source ) had more ED apps to Michigan than any other school.

And most will be postponed like every other year when a ton apply EA. They will take the type of kids in ED that they regularly accept in EA, very top test scores, high gpa/rigor and usually a legacy. ED isn’t going to magically get all these kids into Michigan that are usually WL. People are delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520

Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530

The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.

At the bottom end, UVA has better students.

An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.

Michigan enrolls hundreds every year in its highly rated SMTD, Stamp School of Art and Design, and School of Kinesiology. Those schools require talent that isn’t demonstrated in test scores. UVA doesn’t have the depth or breadth of Michigan when it comes to academic offerings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520

Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530

The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.

At the bottom end, UVA has better students.

An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.

No - at the bottom end, UVA has 5% of their students who were even lower and did not submit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend has a child at Yorktown and they were told that there are 70+ kids who have ED'd to Michigan.

Are you sure 70 are EDing and that # is not a combination of EA and ED?
Yorktown has ~ 600 students per grade - so more than 10% of the class are EDing to Michigan?

I am really skeptical that this is accurate

It’s third hand information. It’s likely completely false.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA SAT 25%-50%-75%
45% submit
1410-1470-1520

Michigan
51% submit
1360-1460-1530

The middle and top end of UVA and Michigan are similar.

At the bottom end, UVA has better students.

An average SAT of 1460-1470 is solid for a public school. Not quite elite, private school level, but solid.

Michigan enrolls hundreds every year in its highly rated SMTD, Stamp School of Art and Design, and School of Kinesiology. Those schools require talent that isn’t demonstrated in test scores. UVA doesn’t have the depth or breadth of Michigan when it comes to academic offerings.

You are wrong about the school of kinesiology. The movement science major requires the same sort of top scores as other programs in the university. It is one of the top programs in the country, very well respected and a strong pathway to postgraduate work in the medical field. Because the program is small, it is highly competitive.

[Anonymous]

While UVA and Michigan admit tons of students with relatively low SAT scores, I think a lot of people are missing what their missions are. They are to educate their state residents first and foremost. UVA has an in-state applicant pool that is more robust, that is why it has higher SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our W school (per reliable source ) had more ED apps to Michigan than any other school.

And most will be postponed like every other year when a ton apply EA. They will take the type of kids in ED that they regularly accept in EA, very top test scores, high gpa/rigor and usually a legacy. ED isn’t going to magically get all these kids into Michigan that are usually WL. People are delusional.

Your analysis ignores the fact that they had a huge yield issue last year and went very deep into the waitlist.

I imagine ED is an attempt to avoid that again this year.