Trump and RFK Jr. to Ban COVID-19 Vaccine ‘Within Months’

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

Not according to my pediatrician's practice--read the message above-they may not be available this fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From my pediatric practice. I guess the moron antivaxxers rule the day:

The Covid Vaccine Situation – Unclear for the Time Being

It is not yet clear whether Covid vaccine will be available for children this year. This past week the FDA issued a “safety label” for the 2025-2026 versions of the Pfizer vaccine for ages 5 and up, and the Moderna vaccine for ages 6 months and up. However, the vaccines have not yet been approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC approval has historically been a prerequisite for vaccine distribution and administration. In a normal year, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meets in the spring to issue vaccine recommendations for the fall season. The director of the CDC then typically approves the vaccines for distribution and use.

This year, the spring ACIP meeting did not occur – it was canceled. All 17 members of the Committee were then dismissed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr. They were replaced by a group of 8 new members, 1 of whom has subsequently resigned. At least two of the remaining 7 are noted vaccine skeptics.

ACIP is next scheduled to meet September 18-19. It is expected to issue a Covid vaccine recommendation at that time. However, given the ouster this week of the director of the CDC and the subsequent resignation of several other top CDC officials, it is not clear that this meeting will take place as scheduled. It is also not clear what the Committee will recommend, whether the CDC will follow that recommendation, or whether CDC approval will prove necessary for vaccine distribution and administration this year.

The upshot is that we do not yet know when and if Covid vaccine will be available for children this fall. We will update you here as soon as the situation becomes clear.

This is what happens when you FAFO with our kids' health. A lot of vulnerable kids who need vaccine protection won't be able to get it. And when these kids die of preventable diseases, we can say "there was no way to prevent this" even though that's a lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

Not according to my pediatrician's practice--read the message above-they may not be available this fall.

That's an issue for your doctor if they don't want to prescribe and administer them. They must not think they're very valuable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

Oh, god. PP was asleep for all of Brexit.

We were talking about Europe and Canada at one point. I didn't realize that we can only compare ourselves to certain European countries.

In response to a post about the European Union:

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge. This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

A post of "Nope" was made with a link to a non-EU country. That's not a refutation -- it's just an error.

And that was exactly whet Brexit was about. It was a decision to maintain different policies than the European Union countries. Catch up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

For some reason, this kind of data they just don't believe. They want to be just like Europe, until most of Europe doesn't provide the Covid vaccine to healthy people, then it's "follow the sciecnce" "just go back and eat asbestos." We can post all the data about the risks vs. benefits, but those who want their boosters come hell or high water will continue to ignore the basic facts and call it a humanitarian crisis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is funny. Everyone on this thread wants the US healthcare system to be more like Europe and Canada, until it comes to the Covid vaccine. Someone upthread said Canada should be immunizing US citizens at the border. Do you know that Canada, like the EU, only vaccinates adults over 65 and those with certain conditions? Their restrictions are even tighter than these new US conditions. Literally, over half the US can get the vaccination because obesity is one of the conditions that makes one eligible; as is anxiety and depression. Pretty much everyone on this site is covered. So to call this a "humanitarian" crisis is beyond hysteria. And comes from a place of complete disinformation.

I’m sorry to point it out, but you are incorrect.
1.In Canada, anyone can be immunized with Covid vax once a year, and those high risk can be immunized twice a year.
2. Due to individual state laws in the USA, vaccines cannot be released if they are not approved by fda and ACIP. RFK has fired ACIP and tried to force cdc director to sign off on fake documents. This now means they are banned in a few states and require prescription AND proof of high-risk condition in order to get one.

This has been widely reported and clarified by reputable news sources in the past 24 hours.

That's not quite right. And what about the EU, hmm?

Same in the EU. Anyone of any age can get the covid vax free of charge, at least once a year. Some member states of the EU offer more than one a year to high risk groups, free of charge.
This information is easy to look up, you know. EMA. Not Fox News or gateway pundit.

Nope.

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2025/06/26/whos-eligible-for-the-2025-covid-19-vaccine-or-autumn-booster/

For autumn 2025, COVID-19 vaccination will be offered to:

adults aged 75 years and over
residents in care homes for older adults
individuals who are immunosuppressed aged 6 months and over

This represents a change from the autumn 2024 programme, which also included adults aged 65 to 74 and all those aged 6 months and over in a clinical risk group.

The eligibility is the same across the 4 nations of the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).

The UK is not part of the EU.

What’s different in the UK is that anyone can go and get a vax, even if they aren’t in the invited group. There is a fee but it’s half what it is here.

Well, that doesn't sound equitable. What about the science?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my pediatric practice. I guess the moron antivaxxers rule the day:

The Covid Vaccine Situation – Unclear for the Time Being

It is not yet clear whether Covid vaccine will be available for children this year. This past week the FDA issued a “safety label” for the 2025-2026 versions of the Pfizer vaccine for ages 5 and up, and the Moderna vaccine for ages 6 months and up. However, the vaccines have not yet been approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC approval has historically been a prerequisite for vaccine distribution and administration. In a normal year, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meets in the spring to issue vaccine recommendations for the fall season. The director of the CDC then typically approves the vaccines for distribution and use.

This year, the spring ACIP meeting did not occur – it was canceled. All 17 members of the Committee were then dismissed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr. They were replaced by a group of 8 new members, 1 of whom has subsequently resigned. At least two of the remaining 7 are noted vaccine skeptics.

ACIP is next scheduled to meet September 18-19. It is expected to issue a Covid vaccine recommendation at that time. However, given the ouster this week of the director of the CDC and the subsequent resignation of several other top CDC officials, it is not clear that this meeting will take place as scheduled. It is also not clear what the Committee will recommend, whether the CDC will follow that recommendation, or whether CDC approval will prove necessary for vaccine distribution and administration this year.

The upshot is that we do not yet know when and if Covid vaccine will be available for children this fall. We will update you here as soon as the situation becomes clear.

This is what happens when you FAFO with our kids' health. A lot of vulnerable kids who need vaccine protection won't be able to get it. And when these kids die of preventable diseases, we can say "there was no way to prevent this" even though that's a lie.

I was under the impression that high risk groups are still eligible for the vaccine. And high risk is defined very broadly. What vulnerable kids would be outside of that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

They haven't been distributed yet. Once they are distributed, you will be able to get them at doctor's offices that choose to carry them. Even in places like Massachusetts. I don't think you've been reading the news.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

Not according to my pediatrician's practice--read the message above-they may not be available this fall.

That's an issue for your doctor if they don't want to prescribe and administer them. They must not think they're very valuable.

You are either a bot or just trying to irritate people. I’m not taking the bait.

For those who are interested in following the updates, I’m sure the Osterholm update out of CIDRAP will have a discussion regarding this on Thursday. Side note, the man himself is speaking in DC next week!! He should also provide updated info about when/if there will be approval and what to do next. CIDRAP has formed a vaccine integrity project to provide guidances in the absence of our previous ACIP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

DP here but what do you mean? This is from NPR. Is that reputable?

The Food and Drug Administration approved the next round of COVID-19 vaccines Wednesday, but imposed new restrictions on who's eligible to get them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5515503/fda-covid-vaccines-restricted

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my pediatric practice. I guess the moron antivaxxers rule the day:

The Covid Vaccine Situation – Unclear for the Time Being

It is not yet clear whether Covid vaccine will be available for children this year. This past week the FDA issued a “safety label” for the 2025-2026 versions of the Pfizer vaccine for ages 5 and up, and the Moderna vaccine for ages 6 months and up. However, the vaccines have not yet been approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC approval has historically been a prerequisite for vaccine distribution and administration. In a normal year, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meets in the spring to issue vaccine recommendations for the fall season. The director of the CDC then typically approves the vaccines for distribution and use.

This year, the spring ACIP meeting did not occur – it was canceled. All 17 members of the Committee were then dismissed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr. They were replaced by a group of 8 new members, 1 of whom has subsequently resigned. At least two of the remaining 7 are noted vaccine skeptics.

ACIP is next scheduled to meet September 18-19. It is expected to issue a Covid vaccine recommendation at that time. However, given the ouster this week of the director of the CDC and the subsequent resignation of several other top CDC officials, it is not clear that this meeting will take place as scheduled. It is also not clear what the Committee will recommend, whether the CDC will follow that recommendation, or whether CDC approval will prove necessary for vaccine distribution and administration this year.

The upshot is that we do not yet know when and if Covid vaccine will be available for children this fall. We will update you here as soon as the situation becomes clear.

This is what happens when you FAFO with our kids' health. A lot of vulnerable kids who need vaccine protection won't be able to get it. And when these kids die of preventable diseases, we can say "there was no way to prevent this" even though that's a lie.

I was under the impression that high risk groups are still eligible for the vaccine. And high risk is defined very broadly. What vulnerable kids would be outside of that?

The pp is just mad that she might have to find a doctor who agrees with her. Since they have full FDA approval, anyone can get the vaccine with a willing doctor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

DP here but what do you mean? This is from NPR. Is that reputable?

The Food and Drug Administration approved the next round of COVID-19 vaccines Wednesday, but imposed new restrictions on who's eligible to get them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5515503/fda-covid-vaccines-restricted

Right. As the article says, people can get a prescription for the vaccine from their doctor. It might be "off-label," but off-label prescriptions are very common.

Separately, you might need to have it administered at a doctor's office, due to regulations on pharmacists in some states.

But full FDA approval means anyone can get these.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

DP here but what do you mean? This is from NPR. Is that reputable?

The Food and Drug Administration approved the next round of COVID-19 vaccines Wednesday, but imposed new restrictions on who's eligible to get them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5515503/fda-covid-vaccines-restricted

Right. As the article says, people can get a prescription for the vaccine from their doctor. It might be "off-label," but off-label prescriptions are very common.

Separately, you might need to have it administered at a doctor's office, due to regulations on pharmacists in some states.

But full FDA approval means anyone can get these.

No, they need ACIP to make the final approval. They are gone. They used to post the meeting agenda, open up comments, and broadcast the meeting with public able to make live comments before making the final approval. It was a great system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These restrictions in vacccine access are awful. Antivaxxers can make decisions about their own bodies and those of their kids, but they shouldn't let their anti-science paranoia prevent Americans who need and want those vaccines from getting them.

They're approved. Anyone can get one with a prescription. At least, once they're distributed to doctors offices.

They aren’t. Please read the last few pages, or a reputable news source.

What I got from my ped practice….

From my pediatric practice. I guess the moron antivaxxers rule the day:

The Covid Vaccine Situation – Unclear for the Time Being

It is not yet clear whether Covid vaccine will be available for children this year. This past week the FDA issued a “safety label” for the 2025-2026 versions of the Pfizer vaccine for ages 5 and up, and the Moderna vaccine for ages 6 months and up. However, the vaccines have not yet been approved by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

CDC approval has historically been a prerequisite for vaccine distribution and administration. In a normal year, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) meets in the spring to issue vaccine recommendations for the fall season. The director of the CDC then typically approves the vaccines for distribution and use.

This year, the spring ACIP meeting did not occur – it was canceled. All 17 members of the Committee were then dismissed by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, RFK Jr. They were replaced by a group of 8 new members, 1 of whom has subsequently resigned. At least two of the remaining 7 are noted vaccine skeptics.

ACIP is next scheduled to meet September 18-19. It is expected to issue a Covid vaccine recommendation at that time. However, given the ouster this week of the director of the CDC and the subsequent resignation of several other top CDC officials, it is not clear that this meeting will take place as scheduled. It is also not clear what the Committee will recommend, whether the CDC will follow that recommendation, or whether CDC approval will prove necessary for vaccine distribution and administration this year.

The upshot is that we do not yet know when and if Covid vaccine will be available for children this fall. We will update you here as soon as the situation becomes clear.