Women don't want men over 45 who have never been married or have no kids

[Anonymous]

I dated a handsome, wealthy man in his forties when I was in my twenties. He was quite the catch and often dated women who were more beautiful than I was, so he had no trouble finding partners. I only broke up with him out of insecurity when I learned about who he dated before me. He’s still single and dating pretty twenty-year-olds at sixty. Women think they are the one who can change him. Money attracts them.

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Anonymous wrote:From my observation, people (men and women) who've never had either kids or been married are usually emotionally stunted in some way. It doesn't always show right away, but it eventually does. Being married and/or having kids is a tool that helps you grow in ways that being single without kids can't.

Men who've been married have already been "broken in," which is why they are often more appealing once they are divorced. They don't need training wheels.

This.

I am a mid-40s divorced woman. The men who are older than me and have never been married are either gay, commitment phobic, workaholic (with associated emotional issues), etc.

I prefer the late 30s men I have dated. They have less emotional hang ups.

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Anonymous wrote:Many of the women are lying when they say that they would prefer a 46 years old man who has never been married and has no kids over a man the same age who is divorced with kids. I have not observed this in the real world, instead it's like there is something wrong with you for being this age and never had a wife and/or kids. Maybe I should have a had a kid out of wedlock in my 20s/30s lol it would have given me more "clout"

Sorry I am just venting this saturday morning. Went to the bar yesterday got rejected, been getting rejected on OLD. In the meantime this guy I know who is recently divorced came with us with his new date.

Luckily we have an anonymous forum we can vent because for us men we can't really share these kind of feelings among us.

Sorry to say you're giving off "the ick" because it's human nature to assume there is something deeply wrong with a man who couldn't get a fiancée, wife, and/or child in 40+ years -- creepy, weird, weak, poor, low status, low virility, outcast, loner, mental illness, whatever the case. Same goes for women. Men naturally assume a gorgeous 40-something woman with no kids and no ex-husband has a screw loose or worse. Will a man sleep with such a woman? Of course. Will a high-status man marry such a woman? Unlikely.

Unless you stumble into money or career success, most men 40+ men without an ex-wife and kids are going to be lucky to end up with a single mom and/or a low status foreigner. That's just reality of the dating landscape at that age.

What’s a low status foreigner exactly?

[Anonymous]

Who cares what these old hens think. I'm 50 and hook up with women of all ages in the US and when I'm traveling, which is several months per year. Most women in the DC area tend to be really serious and boring, so I screen hard and only date here when I'm really bored.

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Anonymous wrote:I am about to test OP's theory. I turned 47 yesterday and went on date with a woman who is 34. I have 2 kids and divorced. She doesn't have any kids and never married. We had a good time. And we will go on our second date next week.

Folks I am just going on date lol. I'm not looking for a second wife. If she wants a husband and kids she wouldn't have agreed to go on a date with me.

Has she told you that she does not want a husband and kids? If she has not, then you cannot make that assumption.

You owe it to her to make it clear that you are not looking for a second wife.

If she did want marriage and kids, dl.uou honestly think she will opt for a 47 years old man who already has kids? She is only 34. There are so many men her age of you her who want to be married and have kids. I think it's safe for amy 47 years old man who goes on a date with a woman to make that assumption..Sure she may want marriage and kids but definitely not with a 47 years old who already has kids. She is only 34!!!! He is a grandpa compared to her

You would be very wrong. My best friend just married a man with 2 kids. She’s 34, he’s 47. I think she’s crazy because there are still lots of men her age who aren’t married and don’t have kids that she could have dated, but this is what she chose. Now they’re trying to have a kid.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: you should have bought a ticket to Thailand this morning. You will do much better there.

If you insist on dating here, date younger. I now realize I was wasting my time with women around my age. I currently have a 26 year old GF, we have been together for three years.

You think she’ll stick around when she’s 56 and you are 76?

When I'm 76 she will be 35.

Do you think she’ll enjoy sleeping with 76 yo you? Does it matter for you when your partner is satisfied and happy or only your need matter ? Do you plan kids (because otherwise she won’t stick around unless you can provide $5m+ in your will for her in current present value).

That’s a very creepy statement. She doesn’t want a child and guys like me don’t have wills, we have trusts.

Creepier than sleeping with someone who could be your daughter, my dude? Be real.

[Anonymous]

Men who are in their late 40's and never married with no kids are usually very self centered and rigid. A guy who had been married has experience with the types of compromises necessary to make an intimate relationship work.

The older single guys also usually have intimacy issues which lead them to be either promiscuous or avoidant. There are exceptions but I know enough of them to know that if they are 48 and single today they will probably be single 5 years from now unless they get therapy for their avoidance and intimacy problems.

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Anonymous wrote:Many of the women are lying when they say that they would prefer a 46 years old man who has never been married and has no kids over a man the same age who is divorced with kids. I have not observed this in the real world, instead it's like there is something wrong with you for being this age and never had a wife and/or kids. Maybe I should have a had a kid out of wedlock in my 20s/30s lol it would have given me more "clout"

Sorry I am just venting this saturday morning. Went to the bar yesterday got rejected, been getting rejected on OLD. In the meantime this guy I know who is recently divorced came with us with his new date.

Luckily we have an anonymous forum we can vent because for us men we can't really share these kind of feelings among us.

Sorry to say you're giving off "the ick" because it's human nature to assume there is something deeply wrong with a man who couldn't get a fiancée, wife, and/or child in 40+ years -- creepy, weird, weak, poor, low status, low virility, outcast, loner, mental illness, whatever the case. Same goes for women. Men naturally assume a gorgeous 40-something woman with no kids and no ex-husband has a screw loose or worse. Will a man sleep with such a woman? Of course. Will a high-status man marry such a woman? Unlikely.

Unless you stumble into money or career success, most men 40+ men without an ex-wife and kids are going to be lucky to end up with a single mom and/or a low status foreigner. That's just reality of the dating landscape at that age.

What’s a low status foreigner exactly?

Really? Low caste stock, average looking, wants a green card.

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Anonymous wrote:Many of the women are lying when they say that they would prefer a 46 years old man who has never been married and has no kids over a man the same age who is divorced with kids. I have not observed this in the real world, instead it's like there is something wrong with you for being this age and never had a wife and/or kids. Maybe I should have a had a kid out of wedlock in my 20s/30s lol it would have given me more "clout"

Sorry I am just venting this saturday morning. Went to the bar yesterday got rejected, been getting rejected on OLD. In the meantime this guy I know who is recently divorced came with us with his new date.

Luckily we have an anonymous forum we can vent because for us men we can't really share these kind of feelings among us.

Sorry to say you're giving off "the ick" because it's human nature to assume there is something deeply wrong with a man who couldn't get a fiancée, wife, and/or child in 40+ years -- creepy, weird, weak, poor, low status, low virility, outcast, loner, mental illness, whatever the case. Same goes for women. Men naturally assume a gorgeous 40-something woman with no kids and no ex-husband has a screw loose or worse. Will a man sleep with such a woman? Of course. Will a high-status man marry such a woman? Unlikely.

Unless you stumble into money or career success, most men 40+ men without an ex-wife and kids are going to be lucky to end up with a single mom and/or a low status foreigner. That's just reality of the dating landscape at that age.

That's projection. The reality is that a handsome, established man in his 40s with no kids is a total catch and can have his pick. Men are in their prime at 40.

Sure thing, creepy loner.

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Anonymous wrote:A 45-year old with no kids is definitely better than a 45-year old with kids, regardless of gender. Kids are hugely complicating.

Only in theory, on a message board where people like to virtue signal and babble about hypotheticals. In real life this gives men and women the ick and they're going to immediately obsess about what's wrong with you. It's human nature. People who are "catches" don't spend 35 or 40 plus years of their life unmarried without kids. Who are you guys kidding with this nonsense?

No, lots of people have long term relationships now without getting married. It's not 1955.

Exactly and some people don’t want kids and a 24 hour job.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares what these old hens think. I'm 50 and hook up with women of all ages in the US and when I'm traveling, which is several months per year. Most women in the DC area tend to be really serious and boring, so I screen hard and only date here when I'm really bored.

DC women deserve respect- seems like they screen hard and well for casual business opportunists like you. Thank you for receiving them from your infectious d…k

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Anonymous wrote:OP: you should have bought a ticket to Thailand this morning. You will do much better there.

If you insist on dating here, date younger. I now realize I was wasting my time with women around my age. I currently have a 26 year old GF, we have been together for three years.

You think she’ll stick around when she’s 56 and you are 76?

When I'm 76 she will be 35.

Do you think she’ll enjoy sleeping with 76 yo you? Does it matter for you when your partner is satisfied and happy or only your need matter ? Do you plan kids (because otherwise she won’t stick around unless you can provide $5m+ in your will for her in current present value).

That’s a very creepy statement. She doesn’t want a child and guys like me don’t have wills, we have trusts.

Creepier than sleeping with someone who could be your daughter, my dude? Be real.

Could actually be his granddaughter.

I’d love to know her whole story. Now there’s a woman with trauma.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares what these old hens think. I'm 50 and hook up with women of all ages in the US and when I'm traveling, which is several months per year. Most women in the DC area tend to be really serious and boring, so I screen hard and only date here when I'm really bored.

DC women deserve respect- seems like they screen hard and well for casual business opportunists like you. Thank you for receiving them from your infectious d…k

*relieving

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Anonymous wrote:I am a mid 40s woman who has never been married and have several single female friends/never married friends of the same age. all of our male friends are married....where are the single men hiding? not being divorced is a red flag?

A lot of the single men are lonely and do things like watch sports alone at home or go to sports bars and watch NFL games for hours. I am married now but I used to go to Nats games alone after work and would see tons of guys alone just vegging and watching the game. If I were still single I would join a Fandom for my favorite college or NFL club and go hang out with them on Saturdays or Sundays in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares what these old hens think. I'm 50 and hook up with women of all ages in the US and when I'm traveling, which is several months per year. Most women in the DC area tend to be really serious and boring, so I screen hard and only date here when I'm really bored.

If you’re so desirable, why do you have to date women from DC at all? Why aren’t they flying in to spend time with you?

DH’s fraternity brother is ridiculously good looking and charismatic. He has beautiful women traveling on their own dime to see him. Once two arrived for the same three day weekend and they knew about each other!