What right do we have to tell Iran they can’t have nuclear bombs?

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Anonymous wrote:An Israeli filed a lawsuit, and a federal court issued a nationwide injunction that Iran was not to be allowed a nuclear weapon.

Whatever, they hate us. I do hear what people are saying about the U.Sn involvement in the revolution, but that was long ago, they need to get over it and fight for their rights.
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Anonymous wrote:An Israeli filed a lawsuit, and a federal court issued a nationwide injunction that Iran was not to be allowed a nuclear weapon.

Whatever, they hate us. I do hear what people are saying about the U.Sn involvement in the revolution, but that was long ago, they need to get over it and fight for their rights.


Right, because after the revolution, we've treated them with nothing but respect
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Anonymous wrote:Given what Iran has consistently claimed to want to do, yes.

Go study up OP, did you just crawl out of a cave for 100 years?



More likely crawled out of an undergrad program from Oberlin or W&M 😆


LOL.
I think OP is very young and very naive. She needs to do a little dive into the history of Iran. She doesn't need to go too far back... She can start with the 1979 hostage crisis.




Oh yes, i made Christmas cards in elementary supposedly "to send to the hostages."

You must support Israel. Only those guys think pulling up stuff from 50 years ago should be used to drive U.S. foreign policy in the 21st century.


DP.

How ‘bout Iran’s support for repeated attacks on US forces in Iraq over the last 15+ years?

How many Americans need to die before you’re convinced that the Iranian government is our enemy?


The US created a coup and installed a dictator, The Shah. This brutal dictator killed thousands of innocent Iranians during his reign until the revolution in 1979. You have to wonder what the country would be like if they were able to keep the democratically elected leader. Less violence, more freedom. But the US didn’t care. Its decision revolved around oil. US can stay out of everyone’s business and focus on US problems.


PP here.

All true and all totally irrelevant. Today’s Iranian government presents a clear threat to America and Americans.

If they want an apology for Cold War meddling, fine. “Death to America” not fine.


DP no Iran’s government does not represent any threat to the US. You can say it but it is not true. Maybe Israel see Iran as a regional arrival but that’s about it.

Seriously your premise is preposterous.


Preposterous?

Every single President (D and R) for the last 55 years agrees that Iran presents a substantial threat to US security.

As does every threat analysis that I’m aware of.

As does the evidence: Iran indisputably sponsored (and perhaps directed) multiple attacks on US troops in Iraq.

Literally every single shred of available evidence confirms that Iran presents a threat to the US.

There’s certainly room to argue about how to best address this threat (Obama diplomacy vs. Trumpian aggression), but pretending that the threat doesn’t exist is foolish and/or disingenuous.


And the US indisputably sponsored attacks on Iran just weeks ago. And that was right before Trump dropped a bomb that someone is lying about what the results were from this mega bomb.

I just don’t get how Iran is a threat to the US. We are a big bully nation with tons of weapons and military. And if we leave the Middle East there will be an even lesser threat.
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Anonymous wrote:An Israeli filed a lawsuit, and a federal court issued a nationwide injunction that Iran was not to be allowed a nuclear weapon.

Whatever, they hate us. I do hear what people are saying about the U.Sn involvement in the revolution, but that was long ago, they need to get over it and fight for their rights.


Right, because after the revolution, we've treated them with nothing but respect

They treated us with nothing but terrorism.
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Anonymous wrote:Given what Iran has consistently claimed to want to do, yes.

Go study up OP, did you just crawl out of a cave for 100 years?



More likely crawled out of an undergrad program from Oberlin or W&M 😆


LOL.
I think OP is very young and very naive. She needs to do a little dive into the history of Iran. She doesn't need to go too far back... She can start with the 1979 hostage crisis.




Oh yes, i made Christmas cards in elementary supposedly "to send to the hostages."

You must support Israel. Only those guys think pulling up stuff from 50 years ago should be used to drive U.S. foreign policy in the 21st century.


DP.

How ‘bout Iran’s support for repeated attacks on US forces in Iraq over the last 15+ years?

How many Americans need to die before you’re convinced that the Iranian government is our enemy?


The US created a coup and installed a dictator, The Shah. This brutal dictator killed thousands of innocent Iranians during his reign until the revolution in 1979. You have to wonder what the country would be like if they were able to keep the democratically elected leader. Less violence, more freedom. But the US didn’t care. Its decision revolved around oil. US can stay out of everyone’s business and focus on US problems.


PP here.

All true and all totally irrelevant. Today’s Iranian government presents a clear threat to America and Americans.

If they want an apology for Cold War meddling, fine. “Death to America” not fine.


DP no Iran’s government does not represent any threat to the US. You can say it but it is not true. Maybe Israel see Iran as a regional arrival but that’s about it.

Seriously your premise is preposterous.


Preposterous?

Every single President (D and R) for the last 55 years agrees that Iran presents a substantial threat to US security.

As does every threat analysis that I’m aware of.

As does the evidence: Iran indisputably sponsored (and perhaps directed) multiple attacks on US troops in Iraq.

Literally every single shred of available evidence confirms that Iran presents a threat to the US.

There’s certainly room to argue about how to best address this threat (Obama diplomacy vs. Trumpian aggression), but pretending that the threat doesn’t exist is foolish and/or disingenuous.


And the US indisputably sponsored attacks on Iran just weeks ago. And that was right before Trump dropped a bomb that someone is lying about what the results were from this mega bomb.

I just don’t get how Iran is a threat to the US. We are a big bully nation with tons of weapons and military. And if we leave the Middle East there will be an even lesser threat.

Tell me you are uneducated, well, you just did. You have no clue about how geopolitics and economic dominance works. You are ignorant. We need to control the Middle East as it is the source of energy for much of the world. If we control it, we control the world. This is just one part of the puzzle of dominance.
Why don't you read a book? I belong to the strongest Empire in the world, but it is declining rapidly. But, I'd rather be Cesar than the barbarian, that is just pragmatism. For all your shrieking on dcum, you are totally useless in any action yet you enjoy the high and mighty right to criticize the U.S. Try that in Iran.
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Anonymous wrote:Same reason why Israel can have nukes despite bombing six countries in the past year while actively committing a genocide


Great point.

The fact that Israel has nukes (lots of them in fact) but ISN’T using them is exactly why Israel CAN have them.


Israel drops 500lb bombs on Gazan hospitals and children. That's why Israel shouldn't be allowed to have them. And yet they do.


Yeah! They should drop Legos on the hospitals used by Hamas to conceal their people and their infrastructure. That'll alter the course of the war for the better.


Thanks genocide apologist. What's next, those pesky Palestinian children deserve to die because they could grow up to be hamas?


Well, leaving aside the reality that obviously all the Hamas member were t one time children, if they are not still presently, what's your suggestion for rooting Hamas out from civilian infrastructure? If you don't like bombs on hospitals, tell Hamas to not use hospitals for cover and concealment. The IDF will be happy to obliterate them elsewhere, where civilians are not in the line of fire. But giving Hamas a get out of jail free pass is not an option, given that about 50 hostages are still beinbg held, with maybe 20 of them still alive. If Hamas were to release the hostages and lay down their arms, maybe there'd be a different discussion to be had about hospitals.


I see posts like yours often, and I always wonder, “Does this propaganda drone actually think that anyone trusts any claims made by Israel, whether those claims are related to alleged Hamas members below schools and hospitals or something else?” … unfortunately, the only certainty one can have in dealing with radical, extremist Zionists is that the odds of them telling the truth are very, very low.


There's no "truth-telling" involved in proposing that Hamas release the hostages and surrender. And subterranean Hamas facilities have been repeatedly documented by all the major, credible, news organizations.

Maybe you should double down and start denying Oct 7 happened, and continue claiming the IDF is just rampaging through Gaza for fun, instead of pursuing the release of the hostages? You'd have the same level of credibility and elicit the same level of sympathy for your bizarre insistence that Hamas doesn't use human shields, doesn't shelter in and under civilian infrastructure, and isn't prolonging the conflict by refusing to release the hostages even as more Palestinian die only because those hostages are still being held.
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Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.
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It is pretty well established that nuclear proliferation is a bad thing and that countries like Iran are especially bad actors and should be prevented from having nuclear weapons.

If Belgium decided it wanted nukes we would stop them. Stopping Iran from having nukes is a no-brainer.
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Anonymous wrote:What do you need an ar-15 for? It’s not for hunting or self protection and there’s no zombie apocalypse.


Perhaps in defense against tyranny? How does it feel that all the people with guns seem to be on the other side of the ideological divide from you?
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Anonymous wrote:What right do democrats have to tell me I shouldn’t be allowed to have an AR-15?



No one has obliterated your AR-15

I trust Iran more than I trust Trump and sycophants.


Then you have lost your grip with reality.
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Anonymous wrote:Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.


Until 1979, Iran was a reasonable, functional contributing member of the world. The Iranian people generally take pride in their heritage and culture.
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Anonymous wrote:Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.


Here you go. It’s from a kids magazine so you should be able to follow it!

Overview
Iran Country Profile - National Geographic Kids | National ...
Iran, historically and culturally rich, has significantly impacted the world through various contributions in science, technology, medicine, and culture. From foundational mathematical concepts to advancements in medicine and
Science and Technology:
Algebra and Algorithms:
Persian mathematician Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi is credited with developing algebra as a distinct field of study, and the term "algorithm" is derived from his name according to TAP Persia.
Early Scientific Discoveries:
Zakariya Razi, a renowned Iranian scientist, is known for discovering sulfuric acid and alcohol.
Astronomy:
Iran has a long history of contributions to astronomy, with significant advancements made in understanding celestial movements.
Early Refrigeration:
The ancient Iranians are believed to have developed an early form of refrigerator according to TAP Persia.
Qanats:
Iran is the origin of qanats, an ancient system of underground channels used for water management, which has been adopted in many arid regions worldwide.
Nanotechnology and Robotics:
Iran has emerged as a leader in cutting-edge fields like artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, and robotics.
Cultural Contributions:
Zoroastrianism:
The monotheistic religion of Zoroastrianism originated in ancient Persia, significantly influencing later religious and philosophical thought.
Chess:
While the game's origins are in India, the Persians significantly developed and refined chess into the game we know today.
Early Empires:
The Persian Empire, one of the earliest and largest in history, had a profound impact on the region and beyond.
Backgammon:
One of the oldest board games, backgammon, originated in Iran around 3000 BC.
Art and Architecture:
Iranian art and architecture, with styles spanning thousands of years, are recognized for their beauty and influence.
Music:
Iran has a rich musical tradition, with various forms of musical expression including orchestras.
Poetry:
Persian poetry is renowned worldwide, with influential figures like Ferdowsi and his epic Shahnameh.
Crafts:
Iranian carpets, pottery, and other crafts are known for their intricate designs and artistry.
Gardens:
Persian gardens are considered among the oldest and most influential in the world, with unique design elements.
Food and Agriculture:
Iran has made contributions to agriculture, including the cultivation of crops like spinach and the development of techniques for irrigation.
Other Notable Contributions:
Postal System:
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The Persian Empire is credited with establishing one of the earliest postal systems.
Early Human Rights Concepts:
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Some scholars suggest that the Cyrus Cylinder, a historical document from ancient Persia, contains early concepts of human rights.
Energy Resources:
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Iran holds significant oil and natural gas reserves, playing a vital role in global energy markets.
Medicine:
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Iranian scientists and physicians have made notable contributions to medicine throughout history, including advancements in areas like vaccines and pharmaceuticals according to Wikipedia.
Iran's contributions to the world are vast and varied, encompassing scientific and technological advancements, cultural practices, and historical developments. Medical
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Anonymous wrote:Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.


Until 1979, Iran was a reasonable, functional contributing member of the world. The Iranian people generally take pride in their heritage and culture.




What has Israel given the world. Nothing but death and destruction.
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Anonymous wrote:Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.


Until 1979, Iran was a reasonable, functional contributing member of the world. The Iranian people generally take pride in their heritage and culture.


Agreed 100%, but here we are now
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Anonymous wrote:Besides terror and oil, what are the contributions to the world by Iran? I’ll wait.


Until 1979, Iran was a reasonable, functional contributing member of the world. The Iranian people generally take pride in their heritage and culture.




What has Israel given the world. Nothing but death and destruction.


Excellent cybersecurity software and bath salts.
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