Initial boundary options for Crown/Damascus study

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Good question. I wonder why there are so many Frost/Wootton changes in general. Couldn't they basically stay the same but maybe add in a few kids to relieve overcrowded schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Same stone mill, I vote for #2 as well!

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Stone Mill, and it looks like all 4 options are very different. Our current Cabin John and Wootton combination is not one of the 4 options!!

Stone mill here as well, we fare pretty well with these options.

Not sure which part of Stone Mill you live in, it seems like number 2 is the best option for the old neighborhood.

Yes, option 2 is the best option. Next is 4.

It may work well for you, but with so many split articulations, they are very bad options. Continuing to have their good friends in the same school is helpful for adolescents' well-being, I believe.

Option 2 is about utilization and has 30+ splits.

Option 1 is the best as it provides minimum disruptions and clean feeders

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the same as the Woodward boundary study, where option #1 is all about stability, #2 about utilization, #3 about demographics, and #4 about proximity?

Pretty much

Option 1,Simplifies feeder patterns.
Option 2, Maximizes efficient use of capacity.
Option 3 , Focuses on improving demographic balance.
Option 4 ,Minimizes disruption to current assignments. But also leaves crown highly under capacity

I really think of these, option 1 is the best

Option 4 disrupts many middle schools and creates too many split articulations for ES

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Anonymous wrote:Having difficulty interpreting all this on my phone. Anyone here a RCES family who can read this better than I can? 😂 What are the HS options for us?

RCES has two options going to QO, one option to Crown, one option to... GAITHERSBURG!

I highly doubt they will move Lakelands to another school since it is a walk zone to QO. They usually prioritize walkers in these situations.

Agreed, options 2 and 4 make the most sense overall.

Disagree, too many split articulation. Not very good for the kids in my opinion.

MCPS should minimize split articulation

Absolutely!

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else unhappy knowing their kid will be forced to change schools as a sophomore?

It's absolutely ridiculous. I feel like applications to independent schools will jump through the roof.

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Anonymous wrote:Split articulation is without a doubt a terrible thing. In the present, we know it creates bullying situations. For example, at CJMS, there is a clear negative situation where Churchill-bound students bully the Wootton-bound students. Creating this for MORE high schools will only make it much worse. In addition, splitting kids apart to join a new group only to split them back off again to join another group (Option 2 does that) will significantly impact cohort cohesion. The students won't make strong bonds. After-school activities and extracurriculars will be impacted because teams will be split anyway. This is just bad

Wow that’s awful as someone who went CJMS to Churchill in late 90s when it was close to 65-70% going to Wootton and the rest going to Churchill I don’t remember it being pro Wootton crazy. Is the split currently closer to 50/50?

I was very saddened to leave a lot of the new friends I made for those three years but after a few months at Churchill all was well and I ended up losing touch with most of my CJMS to Wootton friends. Feel like the best possible split is to have a at least 35-40% from an ES split and join another MS where they continue on with kids through HS, so it’s 6 years and then 7 years together. Being a small subset of a MS that splits to HS is far less desirable IMO since more established friendships and you spent 9 years with people to leave them.

Biggest problem is lack of elementary boundary review as there are some whacky large ones for sure that are likely causing this to occur.

Also they should have looked at the entire county in either smaller chunks or included additional schools. Like doesn’t make sense to have a dividing line between Churchill at WJ or Churchill and Whitman when lots of kids are far closer to those two schools from Churchill. Or for not including Magruder in the study.

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Anonymous wrote:Option 2 is a non starter. The MS boundaries are crazy. Too many islands.

Option 4 has the best contiguous boundaries for both MS and HS. Yes, there is split articulation, but that was going to happen no matter what.

Option 1 is by far the best, minimal split articulation

Option 1 has too many MS islands.

No. It focuses on contiguous boundaries while option 2 has way too many splits and islands

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Anonymous wrote:Option 2 wants to send the Ritchie Park surrounding area to Cabin John MS and then back to Richard Montgomery while sending the Fallsgrove-area Ritchie Park kids to Frost MS and then Crown. Bizarre.

Both option 2 and 4 are so bizarre which I doubt they’re serious options

And College Gardens under some option goes to Gaithersburg Middle and then RM again. Is JW that over crowded?

Yes, JW is that overcrowded. Most similarly-sized clusters have two middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Same stone mill, I vote for #2 as well!

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Anonymous wrote:We are at Stone Mill, and it looks like all 4 options are very different. Our current Cabin John and Wootton combination is not one of the 4 options!!

Stone mill here as well, we fare pretty well with these options.

Not sure which part of Stone Mill you live in, it seems like number 2 is the best option for the old neighborhood.

Yes, option 2 is the best option. Next is 4.

It may work well for you, but with so many split articulations, they are very bad options. Continuing to have their good friends in the same school is helpful for adolescents' well-being, I believe.

Option 2 is about utilization and has 30+ splits.

Option 1 is the best as it provides minimum disruptions and clean feeders

Option 1 is best for whom? Minimal disruptions = leaving Gaithersburg and Watkins Mills High Schools with gerrymandered boundaries and disproportionate FARMS concentrations.

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But isn’t RM also overcrowded? I don’t understand proposing moving Ritchie Park out of JW and then back to RM.

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Anonymous wrote:But isn’t RM also overcrowded? I don’t understand proposing moving Ritchie Park out of JW and then back to RM.

RM is below capacity under all 4 options.

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Anonymous wrote:Option 4 seems crazy for Hoover. One ES to Churchill and the other five to Wooten? What’s the point of that?

+1

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Anonymous wrote:But isn’t RM also overcrowded? I don’t understand proposing moving Ritchie Park out of JW and then back to RM.

RM is below capacity under all 4 options.

So is Poolesville.

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Anonymous wrote:Why move Dufief though? It’s attended Frost and Wootton for decades (neither school is over crowded) and has such a small student population it barely makes a difference in total numbers.

Because DuFief is not geographically close to Wootton. There are many other neighborhoods and schools that are closer and DuFief is very close to QO. Why dont you care about neighborhood schools and geographic proximity like all the other parents?

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Anonymous wrote:But isn’t RM also overcrowded? I don’t understand proposing moving Ritchie Park out of JW and then back to RM.

It's actually only half of Ritchie Park in option 2. They split the cohort in half for middle school to frost and cabin john. Then the cabin john part leaves the whole school behind and joins RM.