FCPS High School prestige ranking

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Anonymous wrote:Latest College Board report - 2023-24 mean SAT scores:

TJ 1518

Langley 1302

McLean 1270
Chantilly 1239
Oakton 1236
Woodson 1229
Madison 1221
Marshall 1210

Lake Braddock 1185
Westfield 1161
Centreville 1159
South Lakes 1158
Robinson 1156
Fairfax 1150
West Springfield 1147

Herndon 1124
South County 1115
West Potomac 1103
Edison 1098
Justice 1088
Hayfield 1084
Falls Church 1041
Annandale 1026

Mount Vernon 1005
Lewis 1002

This grouping suggests six tiers. Review them and see if you agree.


To make this more meaningful, one should have additional datapoints to analyze.

For instance, schools like Annandale and Lewis have high rates of English learners compared to to schools like West Springfield. If this is comparing native speakers to those who've learned a second language, I'd be more impressed with the Lewis score.

Agreed. DCUM loves to compare SAT scores but this is a pretty meaningless metric unless you control for SES and % of ESL students.


There’s no point to controlling for the things that detract from a school’s “prestige.” You might as well just say the entire thread is pointless.

The entire thread is pointless?


Yes, because there is no agreed-upon way to measure prestige, and even if you could, it doesn't matter anyway.

Will anyone in the world ever be impressed that you graduated from Langley rather than Herndon? lol, no no no.


I dunno. People have spent a lot of time and money organizing to make sure their kids stay zoned to Langley rather than get moved to Herndon.


That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.
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Anonymous wrote:Latest College Board report - 2023-24 mean SAT scores:

TJ 1518

Langley 1302

McLean 1270
Chantilly 1239
Oakton 1236
Woodson 1229
Madison 1221
Marshall 1210

Lake Braddock 1185
Westfield 1161
Centreville 1159
South Lakes 1158
Robinson 1156
Fairfax 1150
West Springfield 1147

Herndon 1124
South County 1115
West Potomac 1103
Edison 1098
Justice 1088
Hayfield 1084
Falls Church 1041
Annandale 1026

Mount Vernon 1005
Lewis 1002

This grouping suggests six tiers. Review them and see if you agree.


To make this more meaningful, one should have additional datapoints to analyze.

For instance, schools like Annandale and Lewis have high rates of English learners compared to to schools like West Springfield. If this is comparing native speakers to those who've learned a second language, I'd be more impressed with the Lewis score.

Agreed. DCUM loves to compare SAT scores but this is a pretty meaningless metric unless you control for SES and % of ESL students.


There’s no point to controlling for the things that detract from a school’s “prestige.” You might as well just say the entire thread is pointless.

The entire thread is pointless?


Yes, because there is no agreed-upon way to measure prestige, and even if you could, it doesn't matter anyway.

Will anyone in the world ever be impressed that you graduated from Langley rather than Herndon? lol, no no no.


I dunno. People have spent a lot of time and money organizing to make sure their kids stay zoned to Langley rather than get moved to Herndon.


That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.


Oh look, it’s the social justice warrior being racist again.
Anonymous
I'd measure prestige when we're talking about a public high school in NoVa (other than TJ) by the frequency with which realtors make specific reference in their listings to properties being assigned to particular schools.

By that standard, I think Langley, McLean, Woodson, Oakton, and Madison are still the "prestigious" high schools. Does that happen with Chantilly? Maybe so - I don't pay attention to houses in that area.


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Anonymous wrote:There are some neighborhoods that are highly opposed to moving from Chantilly to Oakton. I wouldn’t be surprised if Chantilly moves to the top given how sought after it has become.


I’d guess the preference has a lot to do with how much closer these neighborhoods are to Chantilly than to Oakton. A family I know who lives near Kindercare Franklin Farm—which is currently zoned for Oakton—told me that a lot of families would actually prefer to go to Chantilly because it’s more convenient.
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Anonymous wrote:Better schools have wealthier families. That is it. I am a former private school teacher and taught a lot of white kids. They weren’t regurlaly the brightest. Wealthy students of any race/background raise test scores. It is that simple.

Smart people are more likely to have higher incomes. Smart people are more likely to have smart kids. Rich kids = smart kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Latest College Board report - 2023-24 mean SAT scores:

TJ 1518

Langley 1302

McLean 1270
Chantilly 1239
Oakton 1236
Woodson 1229
Madison 1221
Marshall 1210

Lake Braddock 1185
Westfield 1161
Centreville 1159
South Lakes 1158
Robinson 1156
Fairfax 1150
West Springfield 1147

Herndon 1124
South County 1115
West Potomac 1103
Edison 1098
Justice 1088
Hayfield 1084
Falls Church 1041
Annandale 1026

Mount Vernon 1005
Lewis 1002

This grouping suggests six tiers. Review them and see if you agree.


To make this more meaningful, one should have additional datapoints to analyze.

For instance, schools like Annandale and Lewis have high rates of English learners compared to to schools like West Springfield. If this is comparing native speakers to those who've learned a second language, I'd be more impressed with the Lewis score.

Agreed. DCUM loves to compare SAT scores but this is a pretty meaningless metric unless you control for SES and % of ESL students.


There’s no point to controlling for the things that detract from a school’s “prestige.” You might as well just say the entire thread is pointless.

The entire thread is pointless?


Yes, because there is no agreed-upon way to measure prestige, and even if you could, it doesn't matter anyway.

Will anyone in the world ever be impressed that you graduated from Langley rather than Herndon? lol, no no no.


I dunno. People have spent a lot of time and money organizing to make sure their kids stay zoned to Langley rather than get moved to Herndon.


That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.


Oh look, it’s the social justice warrior being racist again.


It’s about wanting their kids around wealthy kids and not around poor ones.

There, fixed it for you. Does this make it any better?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Latest College Board report - 2023-24 mean SAT scores:

TJ 1518

Langley 1302

McLean 1270
Chantilly 1239
Oakton 1236
Woodson 1229
Madison 1221
Marshall 1210

Lake Braddock 1185
Westfield 1161
Centreville 1159
South Lakes 1158
Robinson 1156
Fairfax 1150
West Springfield 1147

Herndon 1124
South County 1115
West Potomac 1103
Edison 1098
Justice 1088
Hayfield 1084
Falls Church 1041
Annandale 1026

Mount Vernon 1005
Lewis 1002

This grouping suggests six tiers. Review them and see if you agree.


To make this more meaningful, one should have additional datapoints to analyze.

For instance, schools like Annandale and Lewis have high rates of English learners compared to to schools like West Springfield. If this is comparing native speakers to those who've learned a second language, I'd be more impressed with the Lewis score.

Agreed. DCUM loves to compare SAT scores but this is a pretty meaningless metric unless you control for SES and % of ESL students.


There’s no point to controlling for the things that detract from a school’s “prestige.” You might as well just say the entire thread is pointless.

The entire thread is pointless?


Yes, because there is no agreed-upon way to measure prestige, and even if you could, it doesn't matter anyway.

Will anyone in the world ever be impressed that you graduated from Langley rather than Herndon? lol, no no no.


I dunno. People have spent a lot of time and money organizing to make sure their kids stay zoned to Langley rather than get moved to Herndon.


That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.


Oh look, it’s the social justice warrior being racist again.


It’s about wanting their kids around wealthy kids and not around poor ones.

There, fixed it for you. Does this make it any better?


It makes your post less racist, yes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Latest College Board report - 2023-24 mean SAT scores:

TJ 1518

Langley 1302

McLean 1270
Chantilly 1239
Oakton 1236
Woodson 1229
Madison 1221
Marshall 1210

Lake Braddock 1185
Westfield 1161
Centreville 1159
South Lakes 1158
Robinson 1156
Fairfax 1150
West Springfield 1147

Herndon 1124
South County 1115
West Potomac 1103
Edison 1098
Justice 1088
Hayfield 1084
Falls Church 1041
Annandale 1026

Mount Vernon 1005
Lewis 1002

This grouping suggests six tiers. Review them and see if you agree.


To make this more meaningful, one should have additional datapoints to analyze.

For instance, schools like Annandale and Lewis have high rates of English learners compared to to schools like West Springfield. If this is comparing native speakers to those who've learned a second language, I'd be more impressed with the Lewis score.

Agreed. DCUM loves to compare SAT scores but this is a pretty meaningless metric unless you control for SES and % of ESL students.


There’s no point to controlling for the things that detract from a school’s “prestige.” You might as well just say the entire thread is pointless.

The entire thread is pointless?


Yes, because there is no agreed-upon way to measure prestige, and even if you could, it doesn't matter anyway.

Will anyone in the world ever be impressed that you graduated from Langley rather than Herndon? lol, no no no.


I dunno. People have spent a lot of time and money organizing to make sure their kids stay zoned to Langley rather than get moved to Herndon.


That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.


Oh look, it’s the social justice warrior being racist again.


NP.

Yes exactly. The social justice warrior is indeed a racist; obsessed with examining and judging little children not on their character, but on the color of their skin. She wrote:

“That’s not about prestige. It’s about wanting their kids to be around rich whites rather than poor browns.”

Social justice warriors are racists.
Anonymous
It’s so very cute when the privileged and wealthy complain about racism. Tell me you haven’t had to deal with racism or racist microagressions without telling me. I am not talking about silly jokes like “White men can’t jump.”
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Anonymous wrote:It’s so very cute when the privileged and wealthy complain about racism. Tell me you haven’t had to deal with racism or racist microagressions without telling me. I am not talking about silly jokes like “White men can’t jump.”


I don’t shy away from conversations about race, but when a social justice warrior is the one to repeatedly bring up race and then immediately claims that the other side are racist, It does make me question which side is focused on skin color over all else.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s so very cute when the privileged and wealthy complain about racism. Tell me you haven’t had to deal with racism or racist microagressions without telling me. I am not talking about silly jokes like “White men can’t jump.”


I don’t shy away from conversations about race, but when a social justice warrior is the one to repeatedly bring up race and then immediately claims that the other side are racist, It does make me question which side is focused on skin color over all else.


That is because it has worked well for years. Call people racist, and they quit discussing issues. No longer.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s so very cute when the privileged and wealthy complain about racism. Tell me you haven’t had to deal with racism or racist microagressions without telling me. I am not talking about silly jokes like “White men can’t jump.”


I don’t shy away from conversations about race, but when a social justice warrior is the one to repeatedly bring up race and then immediately claims that the other side are racist, It does make me question which side is focused on skin color over all else.


That is because it has worked well for years. Call people racist, and they quit discussing issues. No longer.


+1000
So, so glad that people are pushing back on this idiocy, at long last.
Anonymous
For the record, using social justice warrior as a pejorative is a tactic also used to silence and police people who call out facts that actual racists are uncomfortable with.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the record, using social justice warrior as a pejorative is a tactic also used to silence and police people who call out facts that actual racists are uncomfortable with.


That won't work. Kind of like the people who want affordable housing--but "not in my backyard." Or, like a SB activist who is on the BRAC committee but does not want her neighborhood touched but thinks we need this boundary study.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the record, using social justice warrior as a pejorative is a tactic also used to silence and police people who call out facts that actual racists are uncomfortable with.


And there you go again, bringing up race all the time then calling people racist. You’re a parody at this point.
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