what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?

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Anonymous wrote:Where FCPS is really struggling in attracting the young/new teachers. The best new teachers are no longer coming to FCPS. Part of the issue FCPS has is they created this retirement system that attracts and secures teachers on the back end of their career, but new teachers could care less about retirement. They have bills to pay now.


Then they should have proposed targeted raises for young teachers. Or even targeted raises for all teachers. But not big raises for every single employee in the whole system, including well paid admin at central office. It was a lazy budget without any understanding of the economic conditions.


I really find it interesting that FCPS consolidated years 3,4, and 5 on a single pay step given the often cited statistics about teachers leaving the profession at high rates in the first five years. It just seems counterintuitive to do this.


Is that consolidated for current teachers or just for the initial placement steps for those who enter from outside of FCPs?


It means that for 3 years steps were frozen. A teacher who entered in 2020ish (don't come for me, I'm too tired to figure out the actual calendar years) didn't get a step increase in 2021 or 2022, so for that period of time 1,2,3 year teachers all made exactly the same amount of money. Now, 3/4/5 year teachers are all making the same amount of money. To make it "fair" (and to discourage leaving FCPS for 1 year and coming back) any outside hire who has 3-5 years experience is placed on that same step that teachers who stayed the whole time are on.

You will see it several places in the pay scale. Those are how many times steps were frozen.


I think the plateaus are only for where they do initial placements for those coming from elsewhere. If you look at prepay scales that’s what they are. That doesn’t mean current employees are dozen on that step.


Yes, it applies to current employees. Next year will be my 15th year in FCPS and I will still be on step 11. I had my steps frozen 4 times.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY26-teacher-195-day-draft.pdf

If two years from now they give a step, I will have 16 years of experience and be on step 12. If they don't give a step in 2 years, I'll be on step 11 still.


That chart shows the initial placement of a new hire from outside of FCPS. It says it at the top in red. It doesn’t show where a current teacher falls in relation to years experience. The pay scale isn’t even filled in


How many teachers have to say it? That is where new teachers start because THAT IS WHERE CURRENT TEACHERS ARE. It absolutely matches the level for current teachers.

Next year’s salaries aren’t filled in because the salary hasn’t been decided yet. That will (likely) be decided at the next meeting.


PP here. We are a two teacher household. I'm saying the column on the left (initial teacher placement) doesn't necessarily match up with current employee's years of experience and placement. For example, one of us is in our 19th year. If you look at the "initial placement" on the FY 2025 scale the way you are, it would put a teacher with 19 years experience at step 16, but in our case the employee is higher than step 16.


Did the employee in their 19th year take time off at some point in their career during frozen steps? Because I am in my 20th consecutive year and it absolutely matches.


No time off. This is the 19th consecutive year.


I am nearly 19 years in and on step 14 with no time off.
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After all the whining about the county giving FCPS only $119 more than last year, Reid still plans to give union members a 6% instead of a 7% raise. Boohoo. And she still wants to give every other FCPS employee (even the chiefs who make $250,000) a 5% raise. County employees are getting a 2% raise. Federal government employees are being laid off. Private employers are also laying people off. But FCPS wants to give its employees 6% or 5% raises.
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Anonymous wrote:After all the whining about the county giving FCPS only $119 million more than last year, Reid still plans to give union members a 6% instead of a 7% raise. Boohoo. And she still wants to give every other FCPS employee (even the chiefs who make $250,000) a 5% raise. County employees are getting a 2% raise. Federal government employees are being laid off. Private employers are also laying people off. But FCPS wants to give its employees 6% or 5% raises.
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Anonymous wrote:After all the whining about the county giving FCPS only $119 more than last year, Reid still plans to give union members a 6% instead of a 7% raise. Boohoo. And she still wants to give every other FCPS employee (even the chiefs who make $250,000) a 5% raise. County employees are getting a 2% raise. Federal government employees are being laid off. Private employers are also laying people off. But FCPS wants to give its employees 6% or 5% raises.


I’m sure there have been many years in the past in which FCPS employees received lower raises than county, federal and private sector employees.
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Anonymous wrote:After all the whining about the county giving FCPS only $119 more than last year, Reid still plans to give union members a 6% instead of a 7% raise. Boohoo. And she still wants to give every other FCPS employee (even the chiefs who make $250,000) a 5% raise. County employees are getting a 2% raise. Federal government employees are being laid off. Private employers are also laying people off. But FCPS wants to give its employees 6% or 5% raises.


I’m sure there have been many years in the past in which FCPS employees received lower raises than county, federal and private sector employees.


Not lower than county or federal in recent years, at the very least.
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Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts
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Non-union gets 5%
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts


and increase in classroom sizes

decrease in planning time

increase in other areas of responsibility

basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions
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Pay raises being funded on the backs of elementary schools. Nasty. They are all losing advanced academics, special ed, and monitor staff, and will have larger class sizes
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FCPS elementary school education is already considered just about the worst in the DC region.
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts


and increase in classroom sizes

decrease in planning time

increase in other areas of responsibility

basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions


What does this mean? “ increase in other areas of responsibility”
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts


and increase in classroom sizes

decrease in planning time

increase in other areas of responsibility

basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions


What does this mean? “ increase in other areas of responsibility”


I’m not FCPS, but I can answer it. Teachers are given “other duties as assigned.” I have parking duty before school, cafe duty during my planning time, and a club to run after school. These “other duties” cut my planning time to half an hour a day. Increasing duties cuts teachers’ time to plan lessons and grade promptly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts


and increase in classroom sizes

decrease in planning time

increase in other areas of responsibility

basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions


What does this mean? “ increase in other areas of responsibility”


I’m not FCPS, but I can answer it. Teachers are given “other duties as assigned.” I have parking duty before school, cafe duty during my planning time, and a club to run after school. These “other duties” cut my planning time to half an hour a day. Increasing duties cuts teachers’ time to plan lessons and grade promptly.



How much planning time do ES teachers normally get? I'm in another state and we are only guaranteed three 45 minute planning periods per week and one can be used for meetings.
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Anonymous wrote:Where FCPS is really struggling in attracting the young/new teachers. The best new teachers are no longer coming to FCPS. Part of the issue FCPS has is they created this retirement system that attracts and secures teachers on the back end of their career, but new teachers could care less about retirement. They have bills to pay now.


Then they should have proposed targeted raises for young teachers. Or even targeted raises for all teachers. But not big raises for every single employee in the whole system, including well paid admin at central office. It was a lazy budget without any understanding of the economic conditions.


I really find it interesting that FCPS consolidated years 3,4, and 5 on a single pay step given the often cited statistics about teachers leaving the profession at high rates in the first five years. It just seems counterintuitive to do this.


Is that consolidated for current teachers or just for the initial placement steps for those who enter from outside of FCPs?


It means that for 3 years steps were frozen. A teacher who entered in 2020ish (don't come for me, I'm too tired to figure out the actual calendar years) didn't get a step increase in 2021 or 2022, so for that period of time 1,2,3 year teachers all made exactly the same amount of money. Now, 3/4/5 year teachers are all making the same amount of money. To make it "fair" (and to discourage leaving FCPS for 1 year and coming back) any outside hire who has 3-5 years experience is placed on that same step that teachers who stayed the whole time are on.

You will see it several places in the pay scale. Those are how many times steps were frozen.


I think the plateaus are only for where they do initial placements for those coming from elsewhere. If you look at prepay scales that’s what they are. That doesn’t mean current employees are dozen on that step.


Yes, it applies to current employees. Next year will be my 15th year in FCPS and I will still be on step 11. I had my steps frozen 4 times.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY26-teacher-195-day-draft.pdf

If two years from now they give a step, I will have 16 years of experience and be on step 12. If they don't give a step in 2 years, I'll be on step 11 still.


That chart shows the initial placement of a new hire from outside of FCPS. It says it at the top in red. It doesn’t show where a current teacher falls in relation to years experience. The pay scale isn’t even filled in


How many teachers have to say it? That is where new teachers start because THAT IS WHERE CURRENT TEACHERS ARE. It absolutely matches the level for current teachers.

Next year’s salaries aren’t filled in because the salary hasn’t been decided yet. That will (likely) be decided at the next meeting.


That is actually amazing that FCPS does this! In ACPS, it is really galling that new teachers come in making more that teachers that have been with ACPS a while and had their steps frozen. Central Office tries to do all these things to say it doesn't matter or they give a raise with an MRA or whatever, but teachers HATE that their steps were frozen.
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts


and increase in classroom sizes

decrease in planning time

increase in other areas of responsibility

basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions


And they can easily fund the proposed cuts by eliminating the 5% raise for central office staff.
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