Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.

The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.

He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.

My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).

I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?

https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man

The government saying something doesn't make it true. Please, tell me you are not simply repeating this paragraph.

However, the government said he was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that was reaffirmed after an appeal. They also said in a 2019 filing that the source that accused Abrego Garcia of being in MS-13 was “proven and reliable.”

The linked article merely states what the government is now arguing to cover up for an egregious mistake. The lawyers are asking for evidence. I thought you were saying that something had actually been proven in a court of law.

Please remember that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental principle in the United States. The government saying he's a danger when it has every incentive to lie is not proof.

Look, despite what people are arguing NO ONE wants killers on the street. We all want them in jail. But - I thought - we all want innocent people out of jail.

These are among the reasons that the US guarantees due process to EVERYONE, citizen or not, undocumented or protected.

You do not have a presumption of innocence in immigration hearings.

Ok, good to know. And yet, during his immigration hearings, he was still granted "witholding of removal."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.

The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.

He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.

My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).

I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?

https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man

The government saying something doesn't make it true. Please, tell me you are not simply repeating this paragraph.

However, the government said he was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that was reaffirmed after an appeal. They also said in a 2019 filing that the source that accused Abrego Garcia of being in MS-13 was “proven and reliable.”

The linked article merely states what the government is now arguing to cover up for an egregious mistake. The lawyers are asking for evidence. I thought you were saying that something had actually been proven in a court of law.

Please remember that the presumption of innocence is a fundamental principle in the United States. The government saying he's a danger when it has every incentive to lie is not proof.

Look, despite what people are arguing NO ONE wants killers on the street. We all want them in jail. But - I thought - we all want innocent people out of jail.

These are among the reasons that the US guarantees due process to EVERYONE, citizen or not, undocumented or protected.

You do not have a presumption of innocence in immigration hearings.

Ok, good to know. And yet, during his immigration hearings, he was still granted "witholding of removal."

Which meant he could still be deported.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see now it seems he had a final order of removal . I really don’t understand the knee jerk reactions

take for instance Like the people who do the co ops to pay for bond. Regular def ended in the us being held in custody. Charities pay for bond for anyone regardless of the crime alleged. They do it on a rotating and lottery
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that is so ignorant. Actual victims of crimes exist. These co-op bond release people place their “high values” over the safety of others in the community. I am pretty sure these people took over and took reigns of the non-Potus- party. I just can’t get behind this “forced fantasy of goodness” of the world!

These folks have orders in place

No, he didn't. He had a waiver. He was here legally. He was kidnapped by the Trusk regime and sent out of the US to a foreign prison with no due process. Sickening that you'd think this is OK. Sick. Sick. Sick.

MAGA....it truly is a scary sickness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.

The stories are not “made up.” He was found to be a danger to the community in 2019 because of his alleged gang affiliation, and that finding was reaffirmed after an appeal.

He has a prominent role in the MS-13 gang’s criminal activities in Prince George’s county.

My county; my CHILDREN, are safer as a result of this confirmed gang member being removed to his home country ( he was not deported).

I am interested in finding out the truth here. Can you please cite sources?

https://wjla.com/news/local/washington-dc-ice-deportation-el-salvador-jail-cecot-worlds-notorious-prison-us-united-states-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-error-detained-court-documents-beltsville-maryland-prince-georges-county-man

The document states that in 2019, an immigration judge granted Abrego Garcia an order that prevented him from being deported from the U.S. unless the federal government was able to reopen his case and convince a judge to reverse the decision.

So, no, he shouldn't have been deported.

[Anonymous]

They don't care

[Anonymous]

This is what member of the bar and yale law school graduate said about deportee garcia :

This [is] unquestionably a person an immigration judge had found had zero right to be in the United States of America," he added.

So who is telling the truth ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what member of the bar and yale law school graduate said about deportee garcia :

This [is] unquestionably a person an immigration judge had found had zero right to be in the United States of America," he added.

So who is telling the truth ?

Who?

[Anonymous]

This is worse than Signalgate-it is not just incompetence on display here but depraved indifference to a human life. This is an incredible human and civil rights violation and should be the top story until this man is freed and brought back home! Listen to what Jamie said-this guy was basically snatched off the streets and flown out of the country to a maximum security prison know for civil rights violations!!!!!! And this Dump administration says too bad so sad??????? AYFKM? And maga wonders why people look askance at them? This is monstrous and if you support this you are a monster. Plain and simple. Due process of the law is something that sets us apart from dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. (that means it's good dips$%#!!!!!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is worse than Signalgate-it is not just incompetence on display here but depraved indifference to a human life. This is an incredible human and civil rights violation and should be the top story until this man is freed and brought back home! Listen to what Jamie said-this guy was basically snatched off the streets and flown out of the country to a maximum security prison know for civil rights violations!!!!!! And this Dump administration says too bad so sad??????? AYFKM? And maga wonders why people look askance at them? This is monstrous and if you support this you are a monster. Plain and simple. Due process of the law is something that sets us apart from dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. (that means it's good dips$%#!!!!!)

There’s one thing that would have prevented all of this. Don’t sneak over the border illegally in the first place. That was a decision HE made, and if HE would have made a better decision, none of this happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what member of the bar and yale law school graduate said about deportee garcia :

This [is] unquestionably a person an immigration judge had found had zero right to be in the United States of America," he added.

So who is telling the truth ?

can you tell us who this is and give us a citation?

Given that the judge let him stay in the US, the quote isn't making a lot of sense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is worse than Signalgate-it is not just incompetence on display here but depraved indifference to a human life. This is an incredible human and civil rights violation and should be the top story until this man is freed and brought back home! Listen to what Jamie said-this guy was basically snatched off the streets and flown out of the country to a maximum security prison know for civil rights violations!!!!!! And this Dump administration says too bad so sad??????? AYFKM? And maga wonders why people look askance at them? This is monstrous and if you support this you are a monster. Plain and simple. Due process of the law is something that sets us apart from dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. (that means it's good dips$%#!!!!!)

There’s one thing that would have prevented all of this. Don’t sneak over the border illegally in the first place. That was a decision HE made, and if HE would have made a better decision, none of this happens.

It didn't prevent it for Jerce Reyes Barrios, the Venezuelan with the soccer ball tattoo. He came legally and made all the good decisions and was still sent to CECOT. Without due process. There is no defense. I agree with the PP. If you support this, there is something wrong with you.

[Anonymous]

No one cares.

We was admitted MS13 seeking asylum from rival gangs.

This is a nothing burger. He is out, technicalities aside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are here illegally you should leave the country rather than risk ending up in prison in El Salvador. Don't make up stories about gangs threating your mom's pupusa restaurant.

He was legal.

No he was not. He was here illegally. He had protected status,but that’s not the same c

You remind me of Karoline Leavitt. It is not a debate strategy to just say the opposite of the truth and then move on. It isn't convincing at all.

The 2019 "withholding of removal" granted by an immigration judge provided him legal protection from deportation.

What do you think this means?

It means that under the terms of that ruling, he had the legal right to remain in the U.S., protected from being sent back to El Salvador.

No, he did not have a legal right to remain in the US. He could have been deported anywhere else. Withholding of removal, was only about removal to El Salvador.
At some point, his asylum application was denied.

Can you tell me more about your assertion that he could be deported to anywhere other than El Salvador? If he only has citizenship in El Salvador, how can we deport him to any other country? What power do we have to make any country accept someone who isn’t one of their citizens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My understanding is he met the criteria for deportation, just not to El Salvador.

Not according to the article. If secret police claim someone told them he was in a gang and they used that to send him to a foreign prison then we are no longer a democracy.

They never had any verifiable proof that he was a gang member. He’s been here for 13 years without any instances. He works full time and lives with his family. The federal judge must have had a reason for his ruling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is worse than Signalgate-it is not just incompetence on display here but depraved indifference to a human life. This is an incredible human and civil rights violation and should be the top story until this man is freed and brought back home! Listen to what Jamie said-this guy was basically snatched off the streets and flown out of the country to a maximum security prison know for civil rights violations!!!!!! And this Dump administration says too bad so sad??????? AYFKM? And maga wonders why people look askance at them? This is monstrous and if you support this you are a monster. Plain and simple. Due process of the law is something that sets us apart from dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. (that means it's good dips$%#!!!!!)

There’s one thing that would have prevented all of this. Don’t sneak over the border illegally in the first place. That was a decision HE made, and if HE would have made a better decision, none of this happens.

So many simple minded people echoing this tired crap.